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John Carpenter: Halloween Ends a “departure” + reshoots coming
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1 is too easy
2 is batshit and so far fetched that I want it to happen
I recently rewatched 2018 and Kills since I am curious about Ends and I am a fan of the series.
2018 is still a good Halloween movie but Kills was awful. The concept was cool but it was completely soured by the terrible acting and the script. Kills felt like it was made by someone else entirely. One of the worst in the series for me.
I have seen some of the Ends rumors and it doesn't sound too great. I get that money talks but they should have ended this with the 2018 sequel.
Kills was so surprising because DGG was insistent about maintaining what makes Halloween great and then he went ahead and made one that contradicts that completely.
2018 is still a good Halloween movie but Kills was awful. The concept was cool but it was completely soured by the terrible acting and the script. Kills felt like it was made by someone else entirely. One of the worst in the series for me.
I have seen some of the Ends rumors and it doesn't sound too great. I get that money talks but they should have ended this with the 2018 sequel.
Kills was so surprising because DGG was insistent about maintaining what makes Halloween great and then he went ahead and made one that contradicts that completely.
After Kills was all like "have we stopped to consider that the real monster is cancel culture?" I couldn't help but feel like they missed an opportunity to simply turn Halloween into the anthology series it was originally intended as.
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One of the ideas I had in my mind before we knew anything about Halloween 18 was actually involving the "true crime" phenomena and podcasters…
Basically Michael was nowhere to be found and had become an urban legend…a group of podcasters are tracking down "sightings" of him around the country and investigating murders that they were trying to link to him.
So he had become like Bigfoot but then they actually run into him and well the rest is history…I envisioned a mockumentary/found footage type of movie.
They kinda went there at least in the beginning of H18 but not enough…a lot of potential for different ideas in this universe.
Basically Michael was nowhere to be found and had become an urban legend…a group of podcasters are tracking down "sightings" of him around the country and investigating murders that they were trying to link to him.
So he had become like Bigfoot but then they actually run into him and well the rest is history…I envisioned a mockumentary/found footage type of movie.
They kinda went there at least in the beginning of H18 but not enough…a lot of potential for different ideas in this universe.
Kills is one of the worst things I've had the displeasure of watching. These movies do not need (bad) social commentary on mental illness and mob violence. It also suffers from one of the worst cases of "middle movie" ever by keeping Laurie in a hospital and flirting with the sheriff or whatever.
I like the idea of this - more emphasis on the interviewing / podcasting / researching and all that. 2018 was good but it can be pulled back even more to simplify.
I imagine that it'll essentially be the entire culture consumed by "Halloween", where the evil and despair goes far beyond just an isolated Michael Myers.
I think we'll be somehow entering the mind of MM through dreamwalking or something. Basically Insidious.
cool idea but i kinda sorta feel like i've seen that movie 10 times before, i just can't place my finger on what specifically (coming off Stranger Things is a factor i admit)
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Oh I'm sure you have lol…I mean it's kinda Blair Witch in the Halloween universe if I'm being honest lol.
I'm being reductive, but I think the morals the movie tries to convey (primarily with the escaped mental patient subplot) are less than great when you really scrutinize them, especially when taking into account Jamie Lee Curtis' comments, connecting the BLM movement specifically to the mob in Kills.
Kills was a fucking mess. No hope for this to turn it around.
Shame, 2018 was wonderful but it works as a stand-alone so sequel to the original there's that. The rumors that this incorporates COVID is enough to make me think it's going to be a shitshow. By all means, experiment, but it's a low bar.
Shame, 2018 was wonderful but it works as a stand-alone so sequel to the original there's that. The rumors that this incorporates COVID is enough to make me think it's going to be a shitshow. By all means, experiment, but it's a low bar.
I mean they tried it with Leatherface so why not Michael Myers.
2018 was good. Kills had some good moments but then a lot of stupid clunk shit aswell but I'm still interested enough to see what this one turns out like.
Personally, I want more horses.
First trailer is a Disney+ exclusive and plays right before the start of Hocus Pocus 2.
After the disappointing Halloween 2018 and the abysmal Kills... man....... I'm not looking forward to this one
I've heard loads of differing "leaks" about this and all of them were wild. We'll see what winds up coming true, but I'm excited nonetheless. I'm one of the few that loves Kills so I'm totally on board.
I can confirm 100% that there's no COVID in this.
That's good to know at least, I don't really mind some of the more outlandish leaks honestly, but I never liked the thought that this was supposed to somehow tie into the pandemic. I'm not even sure if that was anything more than just some random rumor but I recall it coming up around the time that they announced they were no longer shooting them back to back.
Yeah Green said it was going to have COVID in it but I think he eventually realised that would be unwise lmao.
Cool if they are trying something different, I just hope the script is better because Kills was a massive step down from H 2018
Kills was a mess but it left things off in an interesting place imo.
I at least admire them trying something different with each one. I'm not looking at the spoiler rumors but the idea of dealing with "The Boogeyman" as a concept removed from Michael Myers the man is kind of interesting. I believe that's somewhat similar to the original pitch for one of the older sequels.
Not sure how they square all that with the ending of Kills but I'm curious to see how it all wraps up.
I at least admire them trying something different with each one. I'm not looking at the spoiler rumors but the idea of dealing with "The Boogeyman" as a concept removed from Michael Myers the man is kind of interesting. I believe that's somewhat similar to the original pitch for one of the older sequels.
Not sure how they square all that with the ending of Kills but I'm curious to see how it all wraps up.
Why most are likely BS. Most of them are variations of dropped concepts from old cancelled Halloween sequels so it's kind of hard to take seriously
IMO both recent Halloween movies were bad, and besides Carpenter's work as composer, the only thing I've found enjoyable between the two was how bat-shit bonkers and tonally schizophrenic Kills was. Michael killing the firefighters felt like something out of Rambo. The gay couple in the Myers house could have been a rejected SNL sketch. And the mob violence resulting in the death of an innocent man seemed straight out of some serious drama. Truly one of the weirdest films I've ever seen. Good? Absolutely not. But at least I wasn't bored.
So I'm all for them going down the rabbit hole and doing something unconventional. This trilogy is passed the point of being good anyway. Might as well make it memorably weird...
So I'm all for them going down the rabbit hole and doing something unconventional. This trilogy is passed the point of being good anyway. Might as well make it memorably weird...
Kills was great when it was anything with Myers. Whenever it was the townsfolk... ugh. Except big and little John.
I would audibly laugh hysterically in the theater. To do something like this after the build up and intensity of the last two to do some kinda scooby doo level shit would be unprecidented. Say what you want about busta rymes or H5 or whatever but they aren't a direct continuation of a movie like this. That level of goofyness would be be insane.
From what I hear:
-The cast from Scooby Doo will be involved.
-They capture Michael at the end. And when they unmask him, it turns out to be:
-Cochran from Season of the Witch!
-They capture Michael at the end. And when they unmask him, it turns out to be:
-Cochran from Season of the Witch!
