Yeah, this is an clickbait headline. His answer was fine. He explained that he'd want to know what the costs are, whether it's going to raise taxes on the middle class, and other factors. Y'all need to calm down.
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Joe Biden Says He Will Veto A Medicare For All Bill
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Yeah, this is an clickbait headline. His answer was fine. He explained that he'd want to know what the costs are, whether it's going to raise taxes on the middle class, and other factors. Y'all need to calm down.
I mean, if he gets the nomination we're fucked too. Trump was talking about cutting SS the other day as well. Business as usual.
Yep. Anyone who thinks he wouldn't sign a M4A bill that potentially made it to his desk is literally as stupid as they think he is (and this is coming from someone who voted for Sanders last week).
How is it just about every single candidate in the Democratic primary has gotten away with making a big fuss about "how are we gonna pay for it?" without ever addressing the idea of a wealth/stock trade tax and mostly savings we would accrue from killing this horrid insurance industry from our country?
I mean, he pretty clearly says that he would veto all of the M4A proposals that have been floated so far. "How are you going to pay for healthcare" is one of the primary Republican taking points that has been holding us back from joining the rest of the first world for decades.
Watching the full clip.
It's the most democrat thing imaginable to say "Healthcare should be a right but..."
It's the most democrat thing imaginable to say "Healthcare should be a right but..."
He says he would not veto it if it worked.
Literally the opposite of what's being claimed. He literally says he's not opposed on principle and if it got passed without raising taxes on the middle class, costing anyone their healthcare in the short term, or having huge adverse budgetary impacts he'd sign it.
If it's actually passed the House and Senate all of those boxes are going to be checked anyway so he would sign it.
Literally the opposite of what's being claimed. He literally says he's not opposed on principle and if it got passed without raising taxes on the middle class, costing anyone their healthcare in the short term, or having huge adverse budgetary impacts he'd sign it.
If it's actually passed the House and Senate all of those boxes are going to be checked anyway so he would sign it.
It's gaining in popularity. Some polls have it well over 50%. But a public option is even more popular. Bottom line is people want better than what we have now.
It's clear in any given thread that most posters read and respond to the thread title rather than watching or reading the full contents before forming an opinion.
Lawrence pretty clearly positions this hypothetical scenario as a heavily watered down, Republican-altered version of M4A. Is that what people want? Mitch McConnell Presents Medicare For All (but not really)?
To be expected when they're not winning on the merits, so let's just lie and misrepresent everything. Ends justify the means, yadda yadda.
This is hardly the first time a Biden statement or position has been deliberately misconstrued, it'll happen plenty more on the road to the general.
He just gave a long version of "But how will you pay for it".
America, you're kinda fucked, sorry.
America, you're kinda fucked, sorry.
Did he really unironically do a numbered list as
"A)...
Two)..."
Also he literally doesn't say he will veto medicare for all.
"A)...
Two)..."
Also he literally doesn't say he will veto medicare for all.
You're mixing two different concepts. He agrees healthcare should be right, he's not sure that Medicare For All is doable. He has his own plan to achieve universal healthcare in America.
What a disgusting mess of a thread this is.
Ever since SC and Super Tuesday certain people have absolutely lost their shit. Posting right wing conspiracy theories, taking everything out of context and hanging everything on sensationalist garbage.
Biden's position is that M4A is pricey and too disruptive. That healthcare can be improved and costs reduced in other ways.
We can argue that position. So that's what we should do. I don't think misleading interpretations of his responses are all that worthwhile and it really doesn't solve anything.
Insurance industry employs people. Jobs are dignity.
LOLJOBS is the defence. People on this very forum have given similar remarks. That is always the line of defence to defend the indefensible.
He says if by some miracle it gets to his desk, he wants to know the consequences to the budget and what the cost would be. He literally did not say he would veto it.
I guess it's kind of a blessing Era demographic doesn't vote considering how easily users are duped.
Y'all stan Bernie but where were y'all on ST? Embarrassing.
Well, he's beating Bernie so he's basically the devil and the same as Trump/
I feel ill just thinking about this, and I don't have the kind of money to visit a doctor over it.
Seriously, what the hell happened to this site? Seems some people went off the rails after Super Tuesday.
His answer was actually:
Those are literal word for word quotes.
Maybe if OPs started catching consequences on this forum for misleading or clickbait thread titles we wouldn't have this problem.
'Raise taxes on the middle class."
The same middle class that is paying out of their checks already to get insurance through work. Will me not having to pay work for insurance offset the tax increase? Who knows, but it would be nice not to have to worry about healthcare and for the QoL for every American to be at the same level of other industrialized countries.
The same middle class that is paying out of their checks already to get insurance through work. Will me not having to pay work for insurance offset the tax increase? Who knows, but it would be nice not to have to worry about healthcare and for the QoL for every American to be at the same level of other industrialized countries.
He's going to cure diabetes, heart disease, and cancer, so we won't need Medicare for All!!
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