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Job losses from virus 4 times as bad as ‘09 financial crisis
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Job losses from COVID-19 are 4 times as bad as ‘09 financial crisis
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Been unemployed 7 months. Entry level positions were already few and hard to get, its been much worse lately.
I'm about to start driving for uber eats/door dash/whatever
someone please hire me
I'm about to start driving for uber eats/door dash/whatever
someone please hire me
my friends have been doing amazon fresh deliveries as a side job and its paying pretty good. i would give that a try before uber or door dash.
I can't even express how grateful I am that I haven't been affected, I hope something comes for you guys soon
My father was hit and now he's driving for Uber, he's 76 smdh I send money when I can but I still don't like that he has to do it. He should be retiring but America.
My father was hit and now he's driving for Uber, he's 76 smdh I send money when I can but I still don't like that he has to do it. He should be retiring but America.
Oh man, 2009. I graduated that year and had a job rescinded about 2 months prior to graduating. Had the offer for about 4 months and didn't spend any time looking. Got lucky and landed the job I'm still at. Fortunately for me, I'm in an industry that serves public works and am therefore basically recession proof.
Really sorry for those still hurting during this time.
Really sorry for those still hurting during this time.
Have you tried very unpopular careers that will train entry level? Military, police, security, prison guard, etc.? Many people won't consider them but they are still hiring even now.
On-topic, I can believe it. Entry level travel and hospitality jobs have been WIPED OUT. I'd like to think they will come roaring back once everyone gets a vaccine, but that's wishful thinking. It makes the existing jobs in the field exponentially harder to get.
I lost my job in the '09 crisis but so far have been ok with this one (busier than usual in fact). Wish we didn't have to keep going through these every 10 years and my third so far (dot-com bubble, 08-09, Covid...) Edit nearly forgot! I did lose my job in the dot-com bubble when eToys.com closed. Worked there for less than a year though. That means I'm 2 for three so far however the current one isn't finished yet 😱.
I lost my first post-grad job about 5 months before the pandemic hit. It was seemingly impossible to find another one during that time and I ended up working retail.
2021 and I'm still working retail. It's a fucking nightmare.
2021 and I'm still working retail. It's a fucking nightmare.
I'm lucky enough to still be in furlough from Universal Studios. But finding a new job now have been impossible.
Been unemployed for 9 months almost...can't even manage to get a retail or grocery store job lol
sucks but also gives me a lot of time to work on drawing and modeling skills
sucks but also gives me a lot of time to work on drawing and modeling skills
Well, I recently graduated with a computer science degree, so its not like there's no jobs, as programming is a big field and can be done remotely. Its just the few entry level positions that come up are very competitive. I had a one year internship 2 years ago, so its not like I have zero experience, but its still tough. I've only been looking in my state though, but that might have to change.
Man, I'm really fortunate the job I currently have has basically all the income derived from government military spending.
Because if there's one thing that America will never do, even in a depression, it is to stop spending money on the military.
Because if there's one thing that America will never do, even in a depression, it is to stop spending money on the military.
Had to switch careers mid corona, but otherwise am doing pretty good tbh
My fiance was furloughed for like 6 months last year but we are actually pretty solid right now
My fiance was furloughed for like 6 months last year but we are actually pretty solid right now
What's killing me is I am in desperate need of people at my store. Like I would hire 5-10 people on the spot, but the few people who are applying wont answer or return my phone calls. I've been asking some regular customers if they know anyone who needs a job.
I know it's retail, but damn. It's a job, and the pay is decent enough considering it's retail.
I've offered a job to a few of my server friends who have been out of a job for months, and they tell me "No thanks, I don't want to work retail.", and then I watch as they complain every few days on Facebook about being out of work. I OFFERED YOU A $10/HR JOB!!!!
So if any of you need a job in Birmingham, Alabama, hit me up! I got you!
I know it's retail, but damn. It's a job, and the pay is decent enough considering it's retail.
I've offered a job to a few of my server friends who have been out of a job for months, and they tell me "No thanks, I don't want to work retail.", and then I watch as they complain every few days on Facebook about being out of work. I OFFERED YOU A $10/HR JOB!!!!
So if any of you need a job in Birmingham, Alabama, hit me up! I got you!
Not saying they can, but right now it's more than what they are currently making sitting at home. It's a job. Especially for my server friends out there whose job literally was based on tips.
IDK, man, at that point I rather just just be a gig worker. $10/hr was how much I was making as a child.
Is it really appropriate to be a job elitist and basically put down a job as a "child" job? A job is a fucking job, and stable money coming in is better than no money coming in. You don't need to be high and mighty and pretend some jobs are beneath you, or beneath anyone, especially in a time when it could make a difference.
I believe it.
At the end of 2019, I was working at a newspaper and then quit my job. I quit because my parents were moving halfway across the country to a place with much greater opportunity, my specialized job knowledge built up over the few years I was there was being rendered 85% obsolete, and the newspaper business in general was/is on its deathbed in general.
I quit and moved literally a month before COVID-19 showed up here in the U.S.
I've been unemployed for this whole last year living with my parents as a bum 30 year old.
I tried looking for jobs when we first moved down here, but by about the end of March/start of April, I'd given up on the hopes of gaining a job doing what I was doing (a database admin with a more uncommon db language) and have basically languished in the last year.
It sucks bad but it's mostly my own making. I basically just turned off any attempt at trying to find any kind of new job so long as this disease was running rampant here in the U.S., especially considering my pre-existing conditions/medical history.
Not sure what I'm going to do after I get vaccinated honestly. I'm not feeling too much despair currently, mostly because I'm privileged as fuck to have my parents, but going a whole year without employment, especially after having a nice paying salaried, technical job for the last 5 definitely sucks...
Me personally, I value my health and the health of my family much more than I do a meagre wage and I'm not willing to compromise myself for what would be chump change, especially since I have the privilege to do this.
If I didn't have this safety net, I honestly don't know what I'd do...
At the end of 2019, I was working at a newspaper and then quit my job. I quit because my parents were moving halfway across the country to a place with much greater opportunity, my specialized job knowledge built up over the few years I was there was being rendered 85% obsolete, and the newspaper business in general was/is on its deathbed in general.
I quit and moved literally a month before COVID-19 showed up here in the U.S.
I've been unemployed for this whole last year living with my parents as a bum 30 year old.
I tried looking for jobs when we first moved down here, but by about the end of March/start of April, I'd given up on the hopes of gaining a job doing what I was doing (a database admin with a more uncommon db language) and have basically languished in the last year.
It sucks bad but it's mostly my own making. I basically just turned off any attempt at trying to find any kind of new job so long as this disease was running rampant here in the U.S., especially considering my pre-existing conditions/medical history.
Not sure what I'm going to do after I get vaccinated honestly. I'm not feeling too much despair currently, mostly because I'm privileged as fuck to have my parents, but going a whole year without employment, especially after having a nice paying salaried, technical job for the last 5 definitely sucks...
Me personally, I value my health and the health of my family much more than I do a meagre wage and I'm not willing to compromise myself for what would be chump change, especially since I have the privilege to do this.
If I didn't have this safety net, I honestly don't know what I'd do...
Job isn't a job. It's exchanging the most valuable thing you have, time in this earth, for wealth. That ten dollars an hour also means that is one less hour that could be spent finding a job that pays more.
My unemployment would be nearly $650 a week here. $10 would be far less a week on a 40 hour week, especially after taxes. However, if there's a cut-off of hours I could work and still get unemployment I might would pick up those hours.
I'd have to weigh spending time with my kids, and time looking for another job. I already don't get to see them much working full-time.
I don't know why people without unemployment that need a little income would turn you down though. 🤷♂️
10 dollars an hour? That's 8 bananas per day.
But seriously. No one is gonna work for $10 an hour. That is just insulting.
I fucking hate this mentality. It's the same bullshit all the old white people yell at me when I wont give them a discount because they misread a sale sign.
It IS a job. A job that all you people with "real" jobs come to ME for to buy your shit, and not everyone has the same privileges and upbringing as you to get some "better" paying job.
I started this job making $7.25 as a high school drop out who had to leave school to raise my siblings due to my drug addict mother passing, and my poor family never had the financials for me to even THINK of going to college, and I'm now making $20/hr, which is more than I could ever ask for considering I came from literally nothing.
Working for $10 an hour is literally a waste of time. You could invest that time into something part time while looking for work. You could most likely make that type of money just buy bringing in bottles each day from scrounging around town.
People aren't gonna waste a lot of their day on this.
This is a terrible comparison, consumption isn't labor.
Maybe your pay should be more competitive if you want people to work for you - especially during a pandemic!
worst American president ever, plus you add in the eventual 600,000+ deaths due to covid :(
The point is that people in retail are grossly underpaid, not that it's not a real or important job. An argument against raising wages that I've seen is that it's a stop-gap job for young adults, not a job meant for adults with families to support themselves with. Which is obviously outrageous and naïve.
Or you could pay people more and higher less people if that's an option? Like, it's retail and $10. That's automatically going to make a lot of people who have working experience flinch. Like, have you seen what skip/uber/doordash/etc pay people to just drive around and deliver stuff? Probably more than $10, so why would they want to work retail?
If the current budget is to pay 5-10 additional people at $10/hour, but there aren't any candidates applying, it sure seems like management should target fewer hires but pay them more.
There's jobs where taking $10 an hour would be acceptable despite making more potentially just being on unemployment, for example working as an intern in a laboratory. Working retail at a grocery store isn't one of them. Of course what you, and what you are offering is a real job. However there potentially are better uses of a person's time for long term or possibly even short term success than what you're offering. It doesn't inherently mean they're turning their nose up at you but trying to just position themselves better for career growth.
Also this.
This seems like an unpopular opinion here, but I kind of agree with you.
Like I'm the first person who will tell you $10 / hour is a bullshit wage that exploits labor.
But personally I value working continuously and having a steady living more than the uncertainty and depression that accompanies rampant unemployment. Even if it's beneath my worth, it gets me out of the house and rebuilds my confidence. That is worth the sacrifice, even only temporary. I've lived through unemployment hell and I would take anything not to experience it ever again. It just destroys you.
There are jobs nowadays that people overlook because they think it's beneath them. That's your right to believe that, but there are technically jobs out there. You might be bored out of your mind or working something you hate, but entry-level jobs still exist.
It can be very hard to see that when you've worked your entire life in a particular industry and it's suddenly vanished, though.
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Yep. I watched my old job for years struggle to get anything done while being constantly understaffed. The company suits would constantly ask my boss what they could do to help get the store staffed back up. Her answer was always the same: "offer more than $10 an hour." Which despite them saying they would do anything to help, they wouldn't do that.
You can say "a job is a job". But, what's the difference between not being able to afford my bills while working 40 hours a week, and not being able to afford my bills while not working?
A work friend quit our corporate office job to do Doordash full time, as he was making more than enough money to survive. Planned to buy a cheap electric car like a used Prius to up his profits. Kid really had it calculated out. Started making more money than our job while working half of the hours.
Will depend on your area of course but definitely give it a shot.
Don't lose hope.
It's not possible in my store unfortunately, We're not a grocery store or a big box store like Target/Best Buy/Walmart. We don't have the funds to throw more money at people. We also have a wide range of hours to cover across multiple different positions that people can't just pull double duty on, and just hiring less people and paying more isn't an option because I need several people in every position so that there is overlap and back up for those spots so that the staff ISN'T overworked.
Not every retail store is some evil monster that makes butt loads of money. We're a retail store that caters to a particular type of customer, and there's very little margin on the products we sell, and very little is actually charged for most of it. We do not sell a single item that people "need."
Millions work for $10/hr or less. Federal minimum wage is $7.25. Yeah, it's a pathetic amount for 2021 living, but it's a fairly competitive starting wage in retail.
Your goal is to hire more people so that your staff isn't overworked but because you're not willing to pay a bit more to retain workers either your existing workers or you are being overworked to make up. How are you guys managing to keep the store open now? Are people working extra hours, possibly overtime? If you're paying overtime wages, hiring a few extra people for maybe $12 an hour instead would net you reliable workers and you don't need to pay overtime. Are your guys doing 40hrs now and the added workforce will let you provide ~30hr weekly shifts to everyone? That'd be easier on the surface but makes for a chaotic schedule with hours that certainly take it below a livable wage. And if money's so tight how can they afford to pay you $20/hr?
The things you state here sound like typical excuses small business owners give in lieu of raising wages for his employees.
Opening a store full of things people don't need that requires many underpaid workers on the floor which will cause high turnover.
Sounds like a shitty business plan.
Probably a good reason you aren't saying what your store actually sells.
Would put a ton of people barely making it in even worse situations TBH