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JK Rowling supports TERF who was fired for being transphobic
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She's been saying and doing yikes stuff for a long time. Even her books are absolutely brimming with red flags. The antisemitism, the only Chinese character being called Cho Chang, the only Irish character being called Seamus Finnegan (who has stuff explode around him all the time).
from what i've seen either they forget about them or think of them as confused butch lesbians.
Pagan rights!
This is old now, but you're the best!
Pretty much no one does sadly. In the last debate one of the speakers (I won't get into who because I don't want to derail with politics) talked about the need to protect trans women but just left trans men out in the cold.
It's only through cowardice that TERFS don't display more of the '-isms' they undoubtedly hold. They're going to hold on to their transphobia like the bastion of bigotry it is.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them started to get a little more 'brave' as good old fashioned homophobia and racism increasingly slip back into vogue during the upcoming years of glorious Tory rule in the UK.
In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a few of them started to get a little more 'brave' as good old fashioned homophobia and racism increasingly slip back into vogue during the upcoming years of glorious Tory rule in the UK.
A lot of TERFs just ignore trans men, but the worst TERFs try to appropriate them as a shield while simultaneously denying them their identity as men. They do not believe trans identities are valid and thus see trans men as "misguided women", and since they argue themselves to be feminists, they then claim that they are inclusive of trans men (whom they deny their identity and see as women) and that they are therefore not exclusionary towards trans people at all. It is a grotesquely twisted tactic that denies trans men their identity and attempts to abuse them as a shield against people who correctly point out their blatant transphobia. It's just another layer of transphobia on top their transphobic trash heap of an ideology.
Fuck TERFs.
Sorry if this isn't worth a bump, but I saw this on Twitter and I think it's relevant considering there were a decent number of "she's usually super progressive besides this" posts in this thread.
User Banned (3 Months): Excusing Transphobia; Prior Severe Ban for Excusing Blackface
Gervais always takes the same approach to marginalised groups - in The Office he simultaneously earns respect for casting disabled actors to play disabled characters, at a time when that didn't always happen, and then plays both sides, when it comes to using them as a comedic device. The same with Extras and Francesca Martinez's casting - he again laughs at her disability, yet writes her as a character, rather than just a plot device.
I think he might just be one of those characters who genuinely believes that there are no limits when it comes to comedy. If you look at the guy who is he is responding to in that Tweet, he has an equally sardonic tone about nearly everything he posts, and Gervais is just responding in kind. I might be giving him too much credit, but I honestly don't believe he is a terrible person, just one who thinks that anyone is open to mocking.
I think he might just be one of those characters who genuinely believes that there are no limits when it comes to comedy. If you look at the guy who is he is responding to in that Tweet, he has an equally sardonic tone about nearly everything he posts, and Gervais is just responding in kind. I might be giving him too much credit, but I honestly don't believe he is a terrible person, just one who thinks that anyone is open to mocking.
You don't think mocking, invalidating and demeaning trans people persistently with transphobic jokes, years past the point of knowing their damaging affect, makes you a shit person?
I don't see him donning blackface for a set or joking about rape victims. This whole "comedy has no limits" nonsense has zero merit. It very obviously has limits, and Gervais is well aware of where he's drawing the line in the sand.
What it actually is, is that he realises he can get cheap laughs over one easy-to-target minority that's still largely socially acceptable to mock. That he can still get his kicks winding up trans people and telling jokes at their expense, knowing full well he has an ardent defense force in his fans.
He is a coward, happy to toe the line of what's socially acceptable only far enough that it continues to pad his wallet. Someone who is both content espousing transphobic content and also telling people they're mistaken and that it, and he, aren't transphobic.
This says volumes:
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UGGGHHH i hate that guy. "science doesn't care about your feelings sweaty ;)". it's always someone who has 0 interest/experience with empirical science and evidence-based practice who spouts of that kind of bs. trans people are real and valued and always welcome in my science lmao.
This sounds like giving Gervais (and everybody else) a pass as long as it's "comedy". Ewww....
I'm not defending him actually, merely pointing out he has had a 'complex' relationship with minorities since forever in his comedy. On one hand you have to commend him for employing, for example, disabled actors in The Office, but then on the other, you have to wonder if he is only doing so to make them the crux of the joke, which I don't think he has. *I* am not saying that everything is 'fair game' when it comes to comedy at all, but I can recall him saying something similar to that in the past.
But it's not, and he evidently doesn't believe that as I explained in my post above that you ignored.
Again, you don't think mocking, invalidating and demeaning trans people persistently with transphobic jokes, years past the point of knowing their damaging affect, makes you a shit person?
"not defending him, merely pointing out"
As fucking spineless as Gervais himself with your bullshit.
That's not how that works. In fact that's so much worse because not only are you letting it slide for commedy your also admitting that he's two-faced and pretending to be progressive for writing disabled characters while also mocking them. He is not progressive and honestly doesn't deserve to derail this thread about jk Rowling's blatent transphobia.
What's your point? As I said earlier:
I don't see him donning blackface for a set or joking about rape victims. This whole "comedy has no limits" nonsense has zero merit. It very obviously has limits, and Gervais is well aware of where he's drawing the line in the sand.
What it actually is, is that he realises he can get cheap laughs over one easy-to-target minority that's still largely socially acceptable to mock. That he can still get his kicks winding up trans people and telling jokes at their expense, knowing full well he has an ardent defense force in his fans.
He is a coward, happy to toe the line of what's socially acceptable only far enough that it continues to pad his wallet. Someone who is both content espousing transphobic content and also telling people they're mistaken and that it, and he, aren't transphobic.
"From the man himself:"
You claim it's all about jokes when it clearly isn't.
Not that that point is to be dismissed as you keep evading it, since you also seem to think comedy absolves someone of being a bad person despite demeaning, mocking and invalidating trans people for years in full knowledge of the harmful affect it has.
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Please don't defend this guy in this thread of all places it doesn't need to be said here if you want to make a thread so badly about Ricky and his slighted honor go do it but this is not the place to discuss it here.
"He just thinks comedy has no limits" makes even less sense here when his tweet isn't even a joke. What part of "We need to protect the rights of women. Not erode them because some men have found a new cunning way to dominate and demonise an entire sex." is a fucking joke? I can't even fucking paraphrase that vile vilification of us as invading dominators.
That tweet was in reply to a similarly toned one from Jarvis Dupont. I read it as satire, hence my comment before, knowing Dupont's twitter history. If Gervais actually 100% meant what he tweeted then I'll hold my hands up and admit I'm wrong and he is indeed a shit stain.
In the context of Gervais' other tweets and jokes, I don't see how there can be any doubt that he 100 % meant it.
Bending backwards to find excuses for him feels like bending backwards to try to explain how PewDiePie holds no racially problematic views, in the face of overwhelming evidence of the opposite.
Satire isn't satire if you're just 100% reposting hate speech.
Transphobia kills. I don't care if Gervais is just doing it for laughs, if he's truly opposed to the existence of trans people or if there's some other asinine reason he might have for being the vile individual he unceasingly proves himself to be. All I do care about are the people who have been and will continue to be hurt by the sludge he churns out, as well as by the people emboldened by it.
You've ignored the two times it's been made clear for you though.
Gervais repeatedly makes transphobic jokes, supports TERFs, joins in when discussions around them pop up and holds TERF views himself. I'm not sure why you think it's acceptable to come in and hand-wave and attempt to downplay transphobia while telling trans people that the person that has mocked and demeaned them for years isn't actually a bad person and it's just comedy.
He's literally been doing this for years at this point that's a weird fucking bit to keep doing for years if you don't actually have a problem with trans people.
And even if it was 'I'm going to repeatedly insult and deny the existence of individuals of a minority group that has a elevated suicide risk" is not some commendable example of transgressive comedy.
And even if it was 'I'm going to repeatedly insult and deny the existence of individuals of a minority group that has a elevated suicide risk" is not some commendable example of transgressive comedy.
It's not just Mumsnet. There's an entire subreddit (GenderCritical or Gender_Critical I forget) basically dedicated to transphobia.
Satire for fucking who? Yeah it's in a similar tone because they're both making disgusting offensive jokes out *our* expense. His "satire" isn't making fun of Jarvis Dupont, the mockery is all on the trans community.
How many god damn times does he have to keep doing the same transphobic shit and backing up TERFs before people stop fucking excusing it? Y'all did this for JK Rowling and look where we are, Gervais has been even more blatant and vitriolic.
For fucks sakes. He's tweet transphobic shit daily for years. I can't believe there people like you still jumping through hoops for the guy.
I wish I could believe that :( even my own girlfriend doesn't think I am.
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I could have sworn there was a time when JK Rowling was praised for the stuff she tweeted out. Now it's all transphobic stuff. Did something change, or was it just that we hadn't seen those her views in that area yet?
EDIT: I guess I should have read this page before I posted in it.
EDIT: I guess I should have read this page before I posted in it.
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Apparently The Daily Beast covered a part of this:
I feel like we could just repeat the conversation above since the article doesn't bring anything new to light.
No but it is interesting to me that the story got this far. I expected it to get no further than the Gawker sites. I have no belief that they will feel any negatives due to this but I can only hope that the extra attention that was gained from a couple of throwaway attempts to preach to their TERF choirs would serve as a deterrent for other people who are not quite as secure in their fanbases.