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Jim Sterling: Creepy Activision Wants To Know All About Their Employees' Pregnancies
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How the hell is that a good thing? So instead of decreasing stress....they what?
to want to reduce / eliminate misscarriages and pregnancy complications is not disgusting.
They could do it the traditional way instead of going all big brother: not overworking and overstressing people seems to help a lot.
i mean, if the women think their job will be in jeopardy if they come and say they are having issues, most of them will try to wing it.
with this they cant really lie about it no?
By your own admission, that's not what they're doing. They want to avoid lawsuits, AKA treat the symptom not the cause. Maybe don't stress your employees to the point where a miscarriage is possible, rather than seeking out personal data to minimize your legal liability?
I read the article. It focuses on one woman, an ATVI employee. The app allows the company to access anonymous aggregated data, that woman said she was never troubled by privacy concerns, it's entirely voluntary, and also:
"Nearly 20 women who had been diagnosed as infertile had become pregnant since the company started offering Ovia's fertility app, Ezzard said."
What does that become when Sterling sees it?
Creepy Activision Wants To Know About Your Baby
Did he somehow miss the part where it's anonymous? Sorry, parts. That was mentioned multiple times in the article. So they don't know about "your" baby from this app.
"Nearly 20 women who had been diagnosed as infertile had become pregnant since the company started offering Ovia's fertility app, Ezzard said."
What does that become when Sterling sees it?
Creepy Activision Wants To Know About Your Baby
Did he somehow miss the part where it's anonymous? Sorry, parts. That was mentioned multiple times in the article. So they don't know about "your" baby from this app.
like I said the movtivation doesnt matter. even if you dont work for one of these companies there are women who use the tracker and let their data be used for fertility research to help people in general who have fertility issues.
This is the kind of fucked up surveillance we can keep expected in the future.
Kindly fuck off if you think this is a positive thing.
Kindly fuck off if you think this is a positive thing.
Game development needs to improve for the workers. Wouldn't need this if the work environment wasn't horrible in the firstplace. Why can't making games and having a regular ass life coexist at these big pubs?
If it's solely for research data though, keep volunteering if you like.
If it's solely for research data though, keep volunteering if you like.
This really isn't specific to a video game company from what I can see.
There is no way in hell my employer is getting my personal medical data and you need your head checked if you think this is OK.
The problem is these sorts of things are not made mandatory (for obvious reasons) but employees are scared to say no. That's the issue.
The problem is these sorts of things are not made mandatory (for obvious reasons) but employees are scared to say no. That's the issue.
if people are cool with using these apps when the company demands it...
there is always the option to work somewhere else, i don´t even know what is so cool to work at these mega companies, in the end you get a kick in the arse and can look for a new job anyways (as seen this year)
sure, it is really good....only the best for our workers
/s
there is always the option to work somewhere else, i don´t even know what is so cool to work at these mega companies, in the end you get a kick in the arse and can look for a new job anyways (as seen this year)
sure, it is really good....only the best for our workers
/s
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I can think of a few other solutions to the same problem...
Almost everything these corporations do is illegal. They just know how to navigate around the edges of that until the EU sues them.
soon: your babbies will be property of the company because you made them on company time with company resources
into the Bobby Kotick Memorial Orphanage with thee
into the Bobby Kotick Memorial Orphanage with thee
Maybe these publishers can get their shit together instead of treating their employees like animals? Too much to ask?
They don't. And 20 women who had been diagnosed as infertile have since become pregnant. And it's voluntary, not required. So many hot takes gloss over those things.
Yes they can work somewhere else. And there's an option for the employer not to be Big Brother too. Only mentioning the one side is pretty silly.
Yes I think trying to help with pregnancy issues is a good thing .. and that if this saves one pregnancy at this company no matter the motivation then it is a good thing.
Not even talking about what the app as a whole might do for fertility research.
And this app is usually voluntary at these companies
In the United States of Corporations, you better believe it.
Nah. Google the definition of "milt". Suits him just fine.
Fucking disgusting! Activision are a bunch of absolute cunts!
Fuck them so hard; that is absolutely beyond the pale! They have no right to that information at all!
She was coerced into giving away her information. If she didn't comply, she almost certainly would've either lost her job, or had career opportunities taken away from her for refusing to comply.
Now Activision have information that they can use against her; or use to reduce her health insurance. Fuck this!
Fuck them so hard; that is absolutely beyond the pale! They have no right to that information at all!
She was coerced into giving away her information. If she didn't comply, she almost certainly would've either lost her job, or had career opportunities taken away from her for refusing to comply.
Now Activision have information that they can use against her; or use to reduce her health insurance. Fuck this!
It's voluntary to allow the company access to your data and they offer incentives.
I get hesitancy over companies accessing your information but this is part of an overall initiative by Activision (and many other companies of course). This isn't the only way that they're offering incentives for fitness data from employees.
I get the instinct to immediately assume the worst, but other than just not trusting a company period, why would you assume it was join this program or be fired or use this as blackmail apparently. Not all companies have an inherent hate for women or pregnant women in particular. My old company was Fortune 500 and straight up hired visibl pregnant women knowing they'd be in leave in a few months.
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I don't even understand why posting videos from Jim is allowed on this forum.
How hard do you really think it is to work out which developers within your US-based video game development company are pregnant?
Really? Come on! Don't even try!
Video game companies (and tech companies in general) are almost all inherently heavily misogynistic...
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Real life is more nuanced than this.
Real life is more nuanced than this.
After reading the article, it's clear just how far off the mark your response was. Deliberately posting misinformation should be unacceptable on this forum.
There was NO coercion mentioned or insinuated in the article, definitely no threat to her job and the data aggregated is anonymized.
Jim Sterling and yourself seem to have set aside better judgement because of an existing antipathy towards activision.