Trying to find some double standard.
You can't talk about GOW here without cross-gen being the main topic.
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Jim Ryan: "We do feel like we have a responsibility to that community [PS4 players], and an opportunity to keep making great PS4 games"
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Trying to find some double standard.
You can't talk about GOW here without cross-gen being the main topic.
Well yeah they aren't just doing to completely ditch 100m users and neither will third parties.
It does hold back, that's why games like Demon's Souls and Rift Apart exist.
I mean by this same logic shouldn't you be pissed that the Switch is getting MonHun as an exclusive lol?
It's OK to be disappointed that a title isn't going to take full advantage of their new machine.
I fear that when about a year from now I'll look back at the first year of the PS5 I come to the conclusion that it's just a PS4Pro v2 at that moment. It's a great console but it needs games which take full advantage of the system, not prettier and better running PS4 games. Really the only game on the horizon which looks to be that is Ratchet.
Deathloop, Ghostwire, FF16 are not Sony games. God of War..... wouldn't be at all surprised if it has a ps4 version.
So I just looked up the 'generation's quote..
.. and I can't believe people read that to mean no cross-gen games.
.. and I can't believe people read that to mean no cross-gen games.
There's not much else they can say or do until they can guarantee people can get a PS5. Even with the prices of these things a lot of people im assuming are still happy enough to play their ps4 anyway
What do they have to say when they've proven it with Demon's Souls and Ratchet...?
What is a generation exactly?
Here are features unique to PS5:
-The activity cards
-Dual Sense
-3D Audio
-Very fast SSD that the whole console is designed around
-Screen splitter that allows you to talk with friends using camera or watch youtube while playing games
-A new UI
Here are features unique to PS5:
-The activity cards
-Dual Sense
-3D Audio
-Very fast SSD that the whole console is designed around
-Screen splitter that allows you to talk with friends using camera or watch youtube while playing games
-A new UI
They absolutely used the generations talk to put a lid on MS. You could argue that they were technically right but we know what the implication was and you only have to go back to those threads (before they announced their cross gen games) to see how it was received. It was used as stupid console war ammo but suddenly it's not only ok, but expected? Lol.
I don't mind them supporting PS4. It doesn't make me enjoy my PS5 any less and I've had a great time with both Miles and Sackboy. But I'm also not going to act like there isn't some moonwalking going on. That benefits me none.
I don't mind them supporting PS4. It doesn't make me enjoy my PS5 any less and I've had a great time with both Miles and Sackboy. But I'm also not going to act like there isn't some moonwalking going on. That benefits me none.
With limited supply PS5 consoles during first year, Sony can't sell as many copies at full price as they want if everything was PS5 exclusive.
So exactly what they are doing? PS5 has features and benefits the PS4 does not and already getting games it's not. He pretty much just saying the same thing here, PS4 will get some, but we are moving over to PS5 sooner rather than later. Main difference is they are just handling that transition better (no more big old gen exclusives, like what happened with PS2 to PS3 and PS3 to PS4).If he said this knowing that most PS5 games are going to PS4, it was a dumb thing to say.
Sony's Jim Ryan: “We are going to launch PS5 this holiday and we're going to launch globally"
"A great deal has happened since we last spoke. Terrible things happening in the world, which puts everything that you …www.gamesindustry.biz
I can believe it. Selective reading in the pursuit of internet drama is Era's favourite pass time.
Games are expensive and making full fledge AAA games isn't price feasible for ps5 or xbs consoles yet, because neither Sony nor Microsoft games hold value long.
I think they are asking if it's a proper sequel or a Miles Morales type thing.
i mean if you really thought they were just going to abandon PS4 then i still have magic beans for sale.
Nah, but many folks already said like this is just GT Sports with full blown story mode etc.
I think when cross gen suits one of their games next year, its the racing game...
otherwise they want to sell 30m consoles by end next year.... dont know if we should give a fuck aout what those ceos say these days.
Go for it. A lot of players stay on that platform for a while into the next gen. They need some games too, just make it compatible with PS5 and I'm good
I said this months ago and was shot down. It is very odd how some can't get over if a game is good or not should be the most important thing. There is no way Sony is going to invest heavily in PS5 only titles if they have over 100 million current customers who haven't upgraded and likely won't for at least a year. Just look at their launch line-up, it was driven by a remake for the hardcore who are the early adopters of every new generation. I think Ratchet is the only confirmed PS5 only game coming up from Sony that is AAA isn't it? That probably won't be out until March/April.
Spot on.
Yeah pretty much. I don't think the "We believe in generations" necessarily meant "absolutely no more PS4 games", but rather they also understand the desire to push next-generation hardware (through exclusives obviously) and we're already seeing that with Demon's Souls and Ratchet & Clank.
It is a sequel, one of the reasons the last game took so long was so they would be able to make future games faster, without needing to make "significant engine changes".
There is very much a double standard here, but I digress. There isn't much to argue about considering we plainly disagree, I'm not accusing you in particular of having a double standard, but the overall climate here seems obvious.
We've already seen heavy investment with the two games you mentioned lol
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I'm not saying the PS5 won't have any exclusive games for years, especially given smaller titles like Ratchet and Clank are coming and there'll be more remakes like Demons Souls for sure, but what else is there for you to say "and so on" for? Demons Souls is a remake and it's hardly like the PS4 couldn't have handled the game, but Sony wanted to launch the console with a shiny first party exclusive so PS4 owners are missing out on it for no reason.
When I say major exclusives, I mean games like Miles Morales, Horizon 2 and God of War 2 which are all (very likely) to be on the PS4 as well as the PS5.
lousy choice of words.
They should roll back that "we believe in generations" by putting it in a new "what we meant with this never was that xyz, but abc"-context.
Or they should double down on the "believe in generations" by saying that all cross-gen first party games will have the PS5 as the lead development platform and it's most important to them that PS5 early adopters and Playstation fans feel good about their purchases, while also not leaving PS4 owners behind "in this economy, bla, think of the children, bla"...
Compare this Sony narrative to the days of the late PS3/early PS4 era with Jack Tretton, Shu Yoshida and Adam Boyes... those guys were fun and they kicked ass.
They should roll back that "we believe in generations" by putting it in a new "what we meant with this never was that xyz, but abc"-context.
Or they should double down on the "believe in generations" by saying that all cross-gen first party games will have the PS5 as the lead development platform and it's most important to them that PS5 early adopters and Playstation fans feel good about their purchases, while also not leaving PS4 owners behind "in this economy, bla, think of the children, bla"...
Compare this Sony narrative to the days of the late PS3/early PS4 era with Jack Tretton, Shu Yoshida and Adam Boyes... those guys were fun and they kicked ass.
As opposed to other global companies who are in it for the giggles.
I'm not a fan of it but am glad others will get to enjoy it, this is more like being mad that the rumored pc version is going to look bad in comparison to world due to the game being made for the switch.
I'm not saying its not okay to be disappointed either its just crazy that some people think a game being cross gen is a major negative/con this close to launch. Its always been this way so I don't see why expectations have changed for both sony and microsoft.
Desctruction All Stars and Returnal are coming to ps5 exclusive.
So, that is 3 AAA titles in the first half of 2021