They know Lockhart is going to be cheaper.
They think, and they want to sell the idea, that even tho Lockhart is going to be cheaper PS5 offers better value.
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Jim Ryan to the BBC: we still have a lot more games in development we didn't announce yet, not just about quantity of exclusives but also quality
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They know Lockhart is going to be cheaper.
They think, and they want to sell the idea, that even tho Lockhart is going to be cheaper PS5 offers better value.
Well no shit. That was the impressive thing about their presentation, they met expectations by barely dipping into the WWS armory.
We saw two games from Insomniac, one from GG, and one from PD. GG has a second AAA team working on something, and Insomniac has a smaller third team, likely working on VR. Outside that literally all of their studios still have things to show for next gen, some multiple projects. That doesn't even get into 2nd party/3rd party/Indie partnerships.
We saw two games from Insomniac, one from GG, and one from PD. GG has a second AAA team working on something, and Insomniac has a smaller third team, likely working on VR. Outside that literally all of their studios still have things to show for next gen, some multiple projects. That doesn't even get into 2nd party/3rd party/Indie partnerships.
Do we know if milles morales and astros playroom are the only first party launch titles for now?
Now maybe one of them will turn out to be an RPG.
I doubt it, because Sony seems determined to torture me in some kind of insane social experiment, but it would be lovely if one of them did end up being an RPG.
Yeah. I've never been swayed by the "value" argument. That's the same "we know our system is gonna be the most expensive but you should buy it anyway" crap they tried to peddle in the PS3 generation and Microsoft tried to give us this gen. It's never a solid argument for anyone but the most ardent of early adopters.
I doubt it, because Sony seems determined to torture me in some kind of insane social experiment, but it would be lovely if one of them did end up being an RPG.
Yeah. I've never been swayed by the "value" argument. That's the same "we know our system is gonna be the most expensive but you should buy it anyway" crap they tried to peddle in the PS3 generation and Microsoft tried to give us this gen. It's never a solid argument for anyone but the most ardent of early adopters.
I read it as people being angry because they didn't show the games they were expecting (like Silent Hill reboot) or because of the indie showing ("where are my AAA games?"). Either dissatisfaction lead to a statement of "is that all you have coming for the PS5?"
I personally did leave the presentation a little worried about the launch lineup, given you know most of those games aren't coming this year.
Also, the logic of "quality over quantity" seems odd...does that mean the games held back are of worse quality than those shown? As there were some pretty poor showing games in that reel and it wouldn't make me excited to see what they left out. I'm sure this is just a misstatement.
There's been one Killzone game for the PS4, and that was 7 years ago. I don't think that's going to be a "lock".
Sony's show was fantastic. I guess some folks need to see ND or SSM games to feel the same lol.
I can't see how any reasonable person would think that's a slow start though. Coming out the gate and showing Spider-Man, Ratchet & Clank, Demon's Souls, GT7, Horizon 2 and new IP like Destruction AllStars and Returnal is anything but...
They shouldve asked him...
We get the SSD is amazing... but what the hell is Polyphony Digital doing with it if tgey have textures and shadows popping up as you drive through a track?
PD seems to not be optimising the game for the SSD and Im very disappointed by this. Such a shame.
We get the SSD is amazing... but what the hell is Polyphony Digital doing with it if tgey have textures and shadows popping up as you drive through a track?
PD seems to not be optimising the game for the SSD and Im very disappointed by this. Such a shame.
hmm, i can give them another (last) chance and hoping to be pleasantly surprised too.
If you're primarily into Japanese games or RPGs it was a pretty slow show.
Now, obviously, the launch year of a console is pretty much NEVER the time you get doused in tons of huge AAA JRPGs or WRPGs, but the fact we went the whole show without even one of them being announced was pretty noticeable.
I think the reality of a COVID-19 world right now is that a lot of the titles that are intended to be launch or launch window are instead not having dates publically announced quite yet, since there's a chance they might slip and getting the date right the first time is always the preferable option.
In before that was GTS with a new track running on PS5's boost mode backward compatibility.
Indeed it's definitely stronger than any previous PlayStation generation I can think of. Usually the first year is "you will buy this new PlayStation because it's a PlayStation".
This time, it's different. Ryan has already said they know they can't be complacent. They realise the competition have upped their game. They've got to show clear differentiation from Switch for example, and the benefits of buying a home console instead of a hybrid. They've got increased competition from Microsoft who hasn't been exactly subtle about their desire to strongly increase investment in content. And then competition from new players like Stadia and a potentially changing market in the next few years as streaming usage increases.
Project Athia, Demon's Souls?
Sure, one of them is still early enough to have a working title and the other one is a remake of a Japanese RPG by a western developer, but there certainly wasn't nothing for the RPG fan.
It looked like GT Sport with Raytracing..
Honestly, I play GT Sport every day, and when conpared to 4K/HDR... Sport looked better than the 1080P reveal trailer.
Watched the trailer in 4K afterwards..and still not impressed.
Athia doesn't look like an RPG at all, so I don't know why anyone who's desperate for RPGs would look at a 30-second open world concept trailer and go "THAT'S THE GOOD STUFF", y'know?
It just looks like yet another open world third person action game with a solo protagonist.
What are you talking about, Demon's Soul and Project Athia were exactly that.
No matter how fast your SSD is the GPU still needs to render everything that is being shown. Pop in & LOD help reduce the load on the GPU so you'll still see games with pop in even with an SSD. I mean missing shadows or lower quality shadows in the distance are things the GPU does not need to render or render at lower quality.
that makes sense. Part of me hope that ratchet and gran turismo are able to eek in at launch, but im not gonna get my hopes up.
Those are some harsh comments, but I completely agree with you. As a big GT Sport fan I thought GT7 looked the least impressive of the games shown. If they claimed it was GT Sport or a slightly upgraded PS5 version of GT Sport I would've believed it without hesitation.
WHat do you mean no new titles being annouced ? Since 2017 and the relase of Horizon Zero Dawn (2017), we had Days Gone (early 2019 should have come earlier but due to devloppment issues), God Of War (2018), Spiderman (and a DLC) in 2018, Death STranding (2019), and yet to come Last Of US Part2 (should have arrived late 2019, early 2020 cause of dev issues and COVID19), FF7Remake and Ghost Of Tsushima.
Horizon and Demons Souls are RPGs.
Whether you consider them as RPGs or not is another discussion that honestly is not revelant.
The thing is you wanted them announce the kind of RPG that you want, that you like...and let´s be honest, with all respect, to announce something that you like it´s almost an impossible mission.
Sony first-party pipeline is very mature at this stage.
Best launch window / first year lineup I've seen in a long time.
Best launch window / first year lineup I've seen in a long time.
They are saying games being announced, not games being released.
And heavenly sword.
Man, that Playstation-exclusives era was really weird. You can tell sony was putting money on those exclusives, and still failing to deliver.
I don't get the fixation with Ryan's comments about 'value'. I get that everyone wants to know the price, but it's the same rhetoric they've used with all their consoles, both the expensive ones (PS3) and the not so-expensive ones (PS4 most recently). It's not a brand they've ever wanted to be defined by cheapness. 5 will obviously be more expensive than 4 was, but to cite a PS3-style pricing disaster as the most likely implication of these comments, is some major 'concern'.
My read: Expect more game announcements, expect them to be great, don't expect them to be available at launch.
Yep.
From a published perspective only they announced :
- 2 RPGs
- 1 OW Adventure
- 1 Racing
- 1 TPS
- 3 Platforms
- 1 I honestly don´t know how to categorize your game Shinobi but it looked like a lot of fun lol ( Sports maybe ? )
The PS3 was such a weird console. It had a ton of really cool games in those first few years, but NOBODY gave a shit about it until MGS4 and FFXIII came out on it. The system literally just WOKE UP after those two games released. I've never seen something like that happen before, or since, really..
Who knows how much of an RPG is it, but personally it reminded me a bit of Final Fantasy XV in the way the character moved and her use of magic. Sure, some of that might just be from the engine and what we expect from the studio in question, but I'll be shocked if it's not an Action RPG.
Big new IPs from Capcom and SE, RE8, Ghostwire, Gran Turismo, Astro Bot etc.
The JP representation was fine.
And they still have their August and Japanese events still to come.
That's why he said announced, since October 2017 with Ghost of Tsushima we don't have a major Playstation game being announced, so we are seeing the first fruits of that ''silent'' period. But it is obvious that in relation to game releases the last few years have been incredible.
Do we even know for certain if there's going to be a Japan-specific event? Like even the August one is mostly just speculation based on what Jeff Grubb said.
But yeah, hopefully you're right at least ONE of those events brings a new game for the people who buy consoles primarily for RPGs.
No confirmation yet but personally I find it hard to believe that Sony won't have an event for Japan.
Especially since it's a global launch this time unlike with the PS4.
Pretty darn impressed with what they showed last Thursday, and great to hear they have a lot more in production. It is going to be a great gen...possibly even better than the current one!
Transverse shots were likely gameplay. So that would be the one riding through the grass in front of the massive machine, and the one infront of the Golden Gate Bridge. Perhaps the one running through the jungle to the big vista as well.
Transverse shots were likely gameplay. So that would be the one riding through the grass in front of the massive machine, and the one infront of the Golden Gate Bridge. Perhaps the one running through the jungle to the big vista as well.
To be fair to the actual developers - in the presentation on Thursday Insomniac stated 'almost instantaneously' not instantaneously. Nonetheless still very impressive to load a whole level of detail in that time.
Is Ready at Dawn still close to Sony? I thought the two kinda drifted apart after the underwhelming reception of The Order 1886.
I really like the studio and i had fun with The Order so i would definitely be open to a sequel to 1886 or even something for PS VR, given their experience with Lone Echo.