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Jim Ryan: "The PS4 community will continue to be incredibly important to us for three or four years"
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All of a sudden the PS4 is a turd of a system holding everyone back. :/
Judge by people's reactions and the context in which Sony made their "generation" comments I disagree they were very clear about support.
Some of you guys are ridiculous. He didn't lie about generations. Sony has ALWAYS done this. Their platform sells in countries where the next gen is largely unaffordable. PS systems always keep going after the next one comes out. Some of you are so entitled...
They said PS4 would remain the driving force behind PS revenue for ~2 years post ps5 release.
Sony said a while ago they expect ps4 to remain revenue leader for PS division after ps5 release. It seems like this is just him reiterating that.
When this gets cleared up and this narrative is indeed true and most 1st party games will be cross gen in the next 3-4 years, fuck the asshat.
Just look at the names replying and you'll have your answer.
Sony said a while ago they expect ps4 to remain revenue leader for PS division after ps5 release. It seems like this is just him reiterating that.
When this gets cleared up and this narrative is indeed true and most 1st party games will be cross gen in the next 3-4 years, fuck the asshat.
This is smart. Two different reasons both platforms are doing this. For Xbox it is trying to keep people in the ecosystem and Game Pass, as they can't afford to cut off the smaller fan base they have right now. Playstation is smart to milk the PS4 cow until it is dry, has the chance to be like the PS2 (not as long) but at this point with the install base they have the software sales is basically free money.
The funny part about this is Sony flat out avoiding the cross-gen truth in response to the negativity Xbox received. They played the new next-gen hype train fiddle on everyone. Let's see how many people change their tune on cross-gen holding games back, and personally I'm all for it since it gives me the chance to keep playing the games I love with friends who can't immediately jump into next gen.
The funny part about this is Sony flat out avoiding the cross-gen truth in response to the negativity Xbox received. They played the new next-gen hype train fiddle on everyone. Let's see how many people change their tune on cross-gen holding games back, and personally I'm all for it since it gives me the chance to keep playing the games I love with friends who can't immediately jump into next gen.
They really did let on as though MM and Horizon were PS5 exclusives, until today... Like, why not just be up front about it back in June instead of waiting until mid September to drop this bomb? This is lying by omission.
Just building hype for their new device. Will these games hold back next gen? 🤔
Just building hype for their new device. Will these games hold back next gen? 🤔
Sony's messaging was irrefutably about generations while Microsoft took a heap of shit talking about cross gen here and various outlets (TechRadar article thread here was locked when this hypocrisy was highlighted a little while ago).
Sony bent the truth...
Lying by omission is still lying. They conveniently neglected to mention the ps4 versions until now
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Paraphrasing but:
"We believe in generations"
"Give gamers something they can only enjoy on PS5"
I'll believe it when Sony loud and clearly says that and that no PS4 version is being planned.
Yeah. There's nothing wrong with releasing games cross-gen early on especially. I think Sony is doing a good mix with having both cross-gen stuff and exclusive next gen stuff like Demon's Souls and Ratchet.
I'm amazed so many people on a gaming enthusiast forum are surprised there will be a period of cross gen, like its something completely new and unexpected.
We are getting ps5 exclusives and the cross gen games will run and look better on the ps5.
We are getting ps5 exclusives and the cross gen games will run and look better on the ps5.
At this point, it's probably safer to assume it's coming to PS4 too.
For real.
The PS2 continued to outsell the 360 WW for quite some time. And PS4 will continue to put up quality numbers for some time, too.
But... They've literally been saying all year that they won't abandon PS4 once the PS5 comes out. I feel like I've read them say that in at least three or four interviews this year.
Again, I'm genuinely surprised Horizon is cross-gen, but I never expected them to completely abandon the PS4 once the PS5 comes out. I don't think that was ever the plan.
And I'll be one of those people still playing PS4 for the next couple of years. Sorry, I've been burned by investing into video game hardware at launch so many times that I'm certain it's not worth doing anymore. It sucks that Sony is contradicting their messaging though.
I don't feel good. But I do feel vindicated. I was told I was wrong and that Sony was delivering the true next gen vision. Sony just told ya'll exactly what you wanted to hear. Very effective marketing for a very specific audience. And now that they're about to start preorders and need to sell consoles to a much broader array of customers, the marketing is changing to match.
(And for the record, I think this is absolutely a good thing. Cross gen games don't hold back the whole industry. This is a good pro-consumer move, and I'm glad for it. It's absolutely terrible communication - but it's good marketing. So.... You know where Sony's priorities lie.)
Supporting the PS4 / it being important for 3-4 years doesn't mean their AAA games are going to be cross gen for that amount of time.
It's not the same thing as what Xbox is doing they have two published launched game that's are PS5 only.
It's not the same thing as what Xbox is doing they have two published launched game that's are PS5 only.
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I mean we've been told a limited amount so far so I dunno if we can assume it applies to the rest. It was real shit of him to lie about it for sure though. I guess personally I'm waiting to see what the case is with ratchet before assuming its going to be across the board.
In all honesty though, I'm not surprised Miles Morales is cross gen, but Horizon did catch me off guard. Given how long ago the first was now though it kind of makes some sense. I'd assume development started on this quite a while ago, so it may have even targeted ps4 for all we know at one point. This is just a wild shot in the dark ofc.
As the poster above mentioned, I suppose my thinking is I'm not shocked theyre planning to support ps4 but also dont really know what level of support they intend by a couple games being cross gen. The lying about it was lame.
Yea do people really think they'll continue to make PS4 first party games for 3-4 years? It'll be like it always is every generation. 3rd party games will continue to do PS4/5 games until the PS5 userbase is large enough to support standalone titles. God of War will probably be the first true PS5 exclusive and everything beyond that will be too
I mean Druckmann straight up lied about the theme of TLOU P2 but no one here cared
Yeah yeah, not really comparable but eh
Yeah yeah, not really comparable but eh
It means they will keep supporting the PS4 for ~10 years. Just like they did with the PS1, PS2, PS3, etc.
But seeing Horizon 2 and Spider-Man: MM being cross-gen is lol-worthy. Ngl.
Dislike the way that this is worded, and it definitely seems like they plan on supporting PS4 with games for at least a couple of years. I know that shouldn't really be a huge issue, but it's also slightly disapointing after his whole "we believe in generations" talk and them saying to not expect any more first party games on PS4.
I mean, I doubt anybody will notice an instance of games being "held back" by PS4, and it's definitely good for the consumer, but I was pretty excited that Sony and Xbox were doing separate things for their games and distribution
I mean, I doubt anybody will notice an instance of games being "held back" by PS4, and it's definitely good for the consumer, but I was pretty excited that Sony and Xbox were doing separate things for their games and distribution
Horizon 2 and Spiderman Miles Morales were PS5 only until Sony finally decided to pull the band aid off. There's no reason to believe that isn't the case with everything Sony has coming for the next year. 110 million PS4 units vs ? PS5 units? I can't see them making the full switch with their biggest games until they're pushing 20-30 million PS5 units sold.
So are we cancelling the PS5 and Sony because they're handling the transition between systems like they have for every other generation of the past?
As a primarily PC user, I think this is a good thing. I do get a kick out of all the people that are holding on to "generation" being a thing are now butthurt.
Why didn't they tell us Miles Morales was also going to be on PS4 when they announced it?
It's a weird lie of omission. Especially when everyone was confused about what the game was at first.
I don't mind the games being cross gen. Supporting their existing fans is great. One of my best friends wanted to play MM so badly but couldn't justify buying a PS5. Now he doesn't have to as he'll be able to play it on his PS4.
It's a weird lie of omission. Especially when everyone was confused about what the game was at first.
I don't mind the games being cross gen. Supporting their existing fans is great. One of my best friends wanted to play MM so badly but couldn't justify buying a PS5. Now he doesn't have to as he'll be able to play it on his PS4.
This doesn't contradict anything Sony/Jim Ryan have said.
This is how Sony has always supported generations. You continue supporting your massive fanbase, while creating next gen games that can't be made for last gen anymore.
This isn't Sony being inconsistent. This is literally the most consistent thing they've said in the past 20 years.
This is how Sony has always supported generations. You continue supporting your massive fanbase, while creating next gen games that can't be made for last gen anymore.
This isn't Sony being inconsistent. This is literally the most consistent thing they've said in the past 20 years.
I mean, we know that Demons Souls is not coming to ps4, we also know that Ratchet is not coming.