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Jim Ryan: 99% of PS4 games will be backwards compatible with PS5
- Thread starter Toumari
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They haven't backtracked any messaging. People just keep interpreting comments extremely stringently for no good reason.
I don't know that one. Do you have something published maybe?
Sony haven't confirmed that PS4 games can be patched to support PS5 enhancements, unless I've missed something.
Speaking for myself but confirmation of "more patches" from ND and From Software or any other first party game would be nice. If people are saying games will be like running boost mode on PS4 Pro, but on PS5, that kinda sucks lol. That isn't how I envisioned BC handling on next gen hardware. Guess I had my hopes too high when I decided to hold off on finishing Ghost, or replaying TLOU2 because the performance isn't that great at times.
After the months leading up to now, which includes this thread...
What exactly do ppl want to know? Because I feel its already been answered.
Exec says statement, thats not enough.
If you want intimate details....just have to wait?
Yes, you had your hopes too high. And anyone who assumed that PS4 games would run any better on PS5 did too. If they do run better, that's awesome. But no one should have gone into this assuming that would be the case.
GIthub has 3 different modes, one for base ps4, other for ps4 pro and bost mode.
That is the exact same thing, that is what 99% of the games means.
Right....
But ppl wanna go "but what does that MEAN!!!?
It means this:
Updated PS5 website confirms "Faster and Smoother framerates in select PS4 and PSVR games"
https://www.playstation.com/en-us/ps5/ - This section was added after the event this Wednesday. Despite Cerny's talk earlier this year, there was still some doubt regarding whether or not backwards compatible games on PS5 would receive any sort of enhancement beyond loading times and easing...
www.resetera.com
As in....the closer we get to launch, more info will come out.
Its not that complicated.
OK, my post was supposed to be a joke, but if you don't think they have backtracked then I don't know what to say. There has been plenty of discussion here and in the press on it.
I really wish they had shown already the backwards compatible mode in action. Really curious if it's going to work faster (as it should) and have no major issues (show me that Bloodborne loading times).
Was that Sony or the retailers?
Do you mean Sony Direct or retailers?
Is it a coincidence MS mentioned punishing retailers that broke the pre order date....?
What do we actually know?
We know some games can benefit from running seeing the full ps5 specs instead of being in one of the bc modes that will cap performance. But we don't know how many, even a ballpark.
Absolutely, I was already dead ass wrong about the digital edition price so here's hoping I don't go 0/2 lol
99% of PS4 games are playable on the PS5. We know you don't actually care about BC on the PS5.
Have a good day.
Because people somehow interpreted his "we believe in generations" comment as "absolutely no cross gen games whatsoever".
Fair enough. I think we're on the same page. The only difference is that you're telling me to wait when preorders have already happened and the console is less than 2 months from release. And I'm asking.. wait why are we waiting?
Yes. And Xbox explained what the 1% is. And that was useful information. Again, I don't expect it of Sony. But it sure would be useful if they would tell us, would it not? Like in what world is it WORSE to have more specific information about the console you're pledging $500 for and that you will be using in a couple months? Would you have preferred if they kept Dual Sense a secret until the day before launch?
Again, I expect the PS5 BC solution will be FINE. I have been convinced of that - the vast majority of people will be served just fine whether every game has slightly better framerates or if it's just a few, as long as it plays at least as well as it did on PS4. But as enthusiasts on an enthusiast forum, I'd have expecting some Sony enthusiasts to be more enthusiastic about knowing about the console you are soon to own. I'm interested because I'm interested in the tech. Just like I'm interested in the teardown because I'm interested in the tech and how Cerny architected the thing and to learn more about the SmartShift tech that we still are basing all of our knowledge of off of a few sentences Cerny said half a year ago.
I'm greedy. I want more info. Forgive me for my curiosity. On the flip side, MS hasn't shown any games on XSX. Am I forgiven for wanting them to give me more info there? 2 months away!! Tell us everything lol
Read my mind. And on that, I agree. Both companies could do better in areas of giving more info.
I agree with all this. But you've got to see that some are using this as cover for some pretty inane concern trolling. It's just as annoying as the people pretending that Microsoft's slightly obsfucated naming conventions are going to lead to mass panic and people accidentally buying Wii U's in November for their grandkids.
Same as the amount of people who are actually going to get late PS5s from Amazon after that email. Closer to 0% than 1%. CYA.
Yea we agree on that. Small things become big things. I think we should all be in this together in wanting the companies to tell us more. We waited so long for price and preorder info, it's a shame if we're just giving up on asking for more haha. I've actually been more patient than most regarding price and preorders, unlike many of our number (RIP). But, at this point, we're in the endgame. Preorders are live and shipments are soon.
There have been several articles. Microsoft have stated that they can be stored on external drives but to play those Series X games, you will have to transfer them over to the internal drive. To play games with the series X enhancements, you need to run the game off the internal drive too.
OG Xbox, Xbox 360 and Xbox One games can be run from an external drive, or internal but Series X games and any game with Series X enhancements NEED to be run off the internal drive.
I'd thought so, but I didn't have the source, and the last I'd heard, the statement was focused on BC/previous gen games.
Sorry, I'm referring to the PlayStation Plus Collection. Wasn't clear at all. lol
I think the 1% is Rock Band 4.
I haven't heard anything about Sony making peripherals work. Maybe usb headsets and like the usual Sony stuff (PSVR stuff too) but I can't imagine the mad catz (RIP mad catz) guitars working on next gen. Harmonix has been very silent too.
Maybe Microsoft will support Rock Band 4 still... (they've been more open with backwards compatibility).
I haven't heard anything about Sony making peripherals work. Maybe usb headsets and like the usual Sony stuff (PSVR stuff too) but I can't imagine the mad catz (RIP mad catz) guitars working on next gen. Harmonix has been very silent too.
Maybe Microsoft will support Rock Band 4 still... (they've been more open with backwards compatibility).
A couple dozen trashware released on PSN released to less than zero fanfare that you and 99.7% of people have never heard of which sony didn't even bother to test because only 100 downloads were ever processed.
So does that mean it will play more than 100 gam... I'm kidding lol
Poor Sony, they misunderstood that first impressions are everything. I still see people thinking only 100 games are BC.
Poor Sony, they misunderstood that first impressions are everything. I still see people thinking only 100 games are BC.
That 1% is most probably to legally cover their asses if there are problems in a handful of games.
The 1% does not really matter. Sony just cant say 100% because there is no way they could actually verify it. The emulation is propably 1:1, but there might be some edge case only happening after 200h in some specific game. Properly testing one game takes hundreds of man-hours, plus requires running automated tests that Sony does not have. The developers have them in their development environments that might or might not still exist, but I bet only a fraction of smaller devs even have ps5 dev kits to test them on.
Just feels like so many bad faith takes...
Just feels like so many bad faith takes...
Sony underestimated the importance BC would have for the audience. With online games and GaaS being the new norm continuity between system is mandatory and Sony should have known that better than anyone.
A very simple video showing what happen eactly when you insert a PS4 disk into the PS5 should have been uploaded months ago and we wouldn't have needed these discussions. But somehow Sony decided that keeping people int he dark untile the very last moment is the right take for some reason.
A very simple video showing what happen eactly when you insert a PS4 disk into the PS5 should have been uploaded months ago and we wouldn't have needed these discussions. But somehow Sony decided that keeping people int he dark untile the very last moment is the right take for some reason.
While loading times will definitely improve on PS4 BC games you'd need to patch the code (no mean feat) to really take advantage of that SSD. So only games that get a PS5 enhancement patch, free or not, will be where the SSD is really going to shine. Don't hold your breath for 90% of games.
Not sure why people are so sure PT won't come over. You can transfer it to other ps4s via external HDD and the proxy download trick still worked last I checked.