Got it in one.
Games are worth about $20 to me, hours per dollar is the dumbest metric ever. I want shorter games not longer ones.
-
Ever wanted an RSS feed of all your favorite gaming news sites? Go check out our new Gaming Headlines feed! Read more about it here.
-
We have made minor adjustments to how the search bar works on ResetEra. You can read about the changes here.
Jim Ryan: £70 is a fair price for PS5 games (The Telegraph)
- Thread starter Tali'Zorah
- Start date
- News
Games are worth about $20 to me, hours per dollar is the dumbest metric ever. I want shorter games not longer ones.
OP
OP
I'm not 100% sure, but for most of the gen I believe in the UK it was £50. This year has seen a creep up towards £55 for PS4 games though
Nah Jim, and if you think I'm going to shell out £70 for the standard edition of a game then you can go suck a bag of... something unsavoury.
OP
OP
70£ for a videogame could be fair, compared to development costs, but not compared to my (and many other) costumers wallets, right now in the middle of a pandemic/economic crysis
I just hope that many Sony games will be available (new, on sale) for 20 bucks months after release
I just hope that many Sony games will be available (new, on sale) for 20 bucks months after release
70 USD is worth it for a great game. The issue lies in the games that are average. But consumers need to vote with their wallets. A game like Demon's Souls could go for 100 USD and I'd still buy it. Because where else can I play a game that good and that well made? You pay a premium price for premium content.
But then look at Godfall. That game is only worth maybe 40 USD at its quality level.
So people just shouldn't buy it and it'll drop in price. Vote with your wallets, really is as simple as that.
But then look at Godfall. That game is only worth maybe 40 USD at its quality level.
So people just shouldn't buy it and it'll drop in price. Vote with your wallets, really is as simple as that.
User banned (3 days): Hostility, antagonizing other members
What sauce do you put on those boots ?
I think £60 is a fair price, but that for only the biggest of games, trying to sell games that are mid tier near £70 is honestly a bit of a joke, but I think it will start to show in the charts, whereby people will buy less multiple titles of PS5 games. I had about 5 games pre-ordered and I just couldn't honestly buy them with a good conscious. PS4 I purchased a lot of games day 1, now I got Spiderman and AC and that's it. So the very people they worry about not buying (people like me) are even being turned off the price... See what its like in 12 months time, but I expect costs to be driven down.
I remember in the Genesis and SNES days paying a lot for a few games (Final Fantasy 3, SF2, Phantasy Star 2), but honestly the hobby is big enough and can move millions of units which makes this type of pricing seem unnecessary and if they were going to raise the price they likely should have delayed that a year as we're in the midst of a pandemic.
This type of sentiment from Sony makes me happy that I'll be doing most of my gaming through Gamepass which is a massive value proposition compared with $70 games.
This type of sentiment from Sony makes me happy that I'll be doing most of my gaming through Gamepass which is a massive value proposition compared with $70 games.
During PS2/Xbox/GC gen games here in Spain never costed more than 60 €. When Xbox 360 and PS3 launched price raised to 70 €.
Our prices include tax, so they are not as divergent as you make out.
PlayStation CEO Jim Ryan: £70 is fair price for PS5 games and launch line-up is console's best ever
The second part of the Telegraph's exclusive interview also covers console storage, cloud gaming and the PS5's divisive designwww.telegraph.co.uk
A recent interview with Jim Ryan has been published in UK newspaper The Telegraph today, with some interesting quotes about Sony's decision to raise their RRPs to £70 in the UK.
Also, Jim Ryan had this to say on the recent Bloomberg reports that Sony considered even higher prices
The article also covers things such as launch line up and cross gen games but I thought this was pertinent to discuss. For US based people, £70 is over $90, which I'm sure you'd agree is absurd for a videogame. If I recall correctly, the US RRPs are now $70, which would be around £52, which would be much more reasonable. Sony is essentially raising prices in the UK and Europe to ridiculous levels and trying to justify it.
FWIW, I'm sure Microsoft will also be setting their prices this high, and if you buy physical games they're unlikely to actually cost you RRP, but this will be a significant issue if you're UK based and wanting to go all digital where prices usually are, outside of sales, set at RRP.
It's only fair insofar as I can continue selling my games once I beat them. And at that price, I'll be sure to shift as many on as possible.
Yeah it's a tremendously dumb metric and something like Netflix or Hulu slays it anyway. $13 a month for literally all you can watch content.
What else is he gonna say ?
And considering how expensive some of the bigger Sony single player titles are i cant even blame him.
Pretty sure they upped the standard price because they have nurtured a market of steep price drops and sales expectations - so most of the lifetime sales a game achieved are gonna come post price drops and on sale anyway...so they upped the base price to still be able to charge like 30 bucks with games on sale 6 months after release.
And considering how expensive some of the bigger Sony single player titles are i cant even blame him.
Pretty sure they upped the standard price because they have nurtured a market of steep price drops and sales expectations - so most of the lifetime sales a game achieved are gonna come post price drops and on sale anyway...so they upped the base price to still be able to charge like 30 bucks with games on sale 6 months after release.
Here Jim, for you
Brazil would like a word with y'all.
Jimbo, you are very wrong on this one. 60$ was fine.
I find it amusing that publishers are complaining about game prices in an era with where digital sales are handing them a larger chunk of the pie, as well as the revenue coming from DLC and microtransactions.
It ultimately comes down to demand and supply. Hopefully, once the launch period has passed, consumers will send a decisive message regarding the jump up to £70/€80. This isn't a US situation where games have remained at $60 for 15 years - here in Europe, prices have jumped up (twice) already over the course of last gen, and now they're bumping it up even more.
It ultimately comes down to demand and supply. Hopefully, once the launch period has passed, consumers will send a decisive message regarding the jump up to £70/€80. This isn't a US situation where games have remained at $60 for 15 years - here in Europe, prices have jumped up (twice) already over the course of last gen, and now they're bumping it up even more.
Yeah, as someone who routinely bought new games this gen for £40, I absolutely refuse to pay £70 for a game. I will shop around for the best deal I can find or just wait. Getting Demon's Souls for £50 made it a bearable purchase, and that's only because I had a £20 voucher.
Game have been selling more than ever. And companies have been generating record profits. Explain that.
I got Demon's Souls for 70€ instead of the 80€ RRPP straight from Amazon. Luckily some stores don't go with Sony's bullshit, especially when they have the Digital Edition eating their sales.
They removed the ability to buy playstation digital games with third party vendors in europe (not sure about the US) so they basically fucked us over double and now completely depend on Sony giving any deals or not
not sure i fully understand that rationale. Do we say anything above 70% metacritic is £70? lol
One things for certain, the actual devs at the coalface wont see any of the benefits of that increase in price thats for sure nor will it end the countless microtransactions used to pad out content
I mean, it's fair for the amount of work that goes into these games for sure - But we're heading for a global recession so I don't know if the vast population is going to agree that this price is fair for what they get - Especially since I think for many people there will be easier and cheaper ways to get entertainment.
Yeah, this type of argument is always a bit silly.
On the other hand, (and I'll be that guy) I'm not sure what else Jim Ryan could have said ("you're right, totally not a fair price").
But I agree it's the rest of the argument that doesn't fly.
By his logic Lost Legacy should be 10 bucks.
They are making more money than ever but keep fighting the good fight. Multimillion companies need your help
Things to consider when videogame companies raise the prices:
- They are making record profits in an era when they didn't raise the base price of games.
-They have outperformed in profit growth most sectors in the decade of 2010s (and in the stock market too).
That kinda changes the topic of discussion
Can you confirm whether [the previously announced] God of War Ragnorak will be a PS5 exclusive?
"Sorry. I've got nothing to say about that today."
get ready for the cross gen folks
"Sorry. I've got nothing to say about that today."
get ready for the cross gen folks