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Koukalaka

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Oct 28, 2017
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I think I need to be a little more clear on my previous point, it's not poverty that the show is JUST taking advantage of but promoting the stereotype of what poor people who are on government benefits are like. So you don't get a slot on th JK show, just becuse they are poor.

Oh I agree 100%. I've seen plenty of middle-class/wealthy families that are dysfunctional to the core - the show seems designed to cultivate rage against people that use benefits by focusing on a handful of families that are highly dysfunctional, and completely stripping away any context (e.g. their environment, the impact of austerity) to leave the audience with an impression of them being bad/lazy/immoral people.

And it works, I've seen the impact on viewers first-hand.
 

s_mirage

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Oct 25, 2017
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Good. Show gets up my nose. It professes to help people but it's really using people's misery for entertainment. Also, heard second hand accounts of Jeremy Kyle being a bit of a twat.
 

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The fact that the producers specifically target mental illness in the guests they bring on, then repeatedly hound them until they agree to come on the show, is just insanely fucked up. Basically this show is entirely based around exploiting people with mental illness. Disgusting.
 

Dary

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Oct 27, 2017
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As someone from a poor background (grew up on a council estate with no knowledge of who my father is, woo!), the sheer glee with which people kicked down at guests on that show always riled me up. It was especially bad at uni.

I've also had the "pleasue" of watching such a show filmed...
 

Aftermath

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Oct 27, 2017
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There was an article the other day he was complaining about his neighbours being noisy, instead of the obvious asking them to be quiet he just moaned that you guessed it "they should get a job"

Lol
 

NinjaScooter

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Oct 25, 2017
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Is this like the uk version of jerry springer?

Springer wised up years ago and started using actors and blatantly scripted storylines, probably to avoid something like this (or what happened with Jenny Jones in the 90s).

The American show that is similarly gross is Steve Wilkos. That show is sometimes on in the break room at work and is always seems to exploit sexually abused children under the guise that doing scandalous lie detector tests will somehow get them some justice.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Isn't that now four recent suicides after appearances on ITV's trash reality TV shows?

This, Britain's Got Talent and Love Island.


Even if Kyle gets cancelled ITV already have that other cunt Rinder to fill the void.
 

Aftermath

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Oct 27, 2017
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Edit : apparently not see reply below mine


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/transgender-lotto-millionaire-dies-18-months-after-scooping-4-m-110947543.html

Wonder if this story is linked to it?

I think she had been on Jeremy Kyle Twice before (definitely once) I saw one of the times she was on with her daughter where her daughter was embarrassed by her & tbh it showed just how Transphobic Jeremy Kyle is, despite him making out as if he isn't, if you watch the episode you can see how horrible his show was towards her, quite disgusting in fact, she is made a laughing stock, ridiculed etc

Was she due back for an updated episode I wonder
 
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IDreamOfHime

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Oct 27, 2017
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https://uk.news.yahoo.com/transgend...s-18-months-after-scooping-4-m-110947543.html

Wonder if this story is linked to it?

I think she had been on Jeremy Kyle Twice before (definitely once) I saw one of the times she was on with her daughter where her daughter was embarrassed by her & tbh it showed just how Transphobic Jeremy Kyle is, despite him making out as if he isn't, if you watch the episode you can see how horrible his show was towards her, quite disgusting in fact, she is made a laughing stock, ridiculed etc

Was she due back for an updated episode I wonder

The episode that's caused the show to be pulled had man failing a lie detector test. He then took his own life a week later.

ITV must be shitting it as they've purged every episode of the show from their on demand services too.
 

Stuart444

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Oct 25, 2017
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Even if Kyle gets cancelled ITV already have that other cunt Rinder to fill the void.

Tbf, I quite like the Judge Rinder show. He can be a bit of a cunt but he does seem to do things by the book (law wise). Doing things based on what the law allows him to. (basically I'm not a fan of the way he acts at times but I do like learning a bit about law which he often tries to explain when making his rulings)

Better than the American equivalent imo. but that's just me.
 

Falldog

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Oct 28, 2017
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I'm surprised that they've managed to keep this shite going for as long as they have, and hopefully it doesn't come back. It's bloody awful, exploitative garbage.
 

SpaceCrystal

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Apr 1, 2019
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Glad that show is gone. Now when will shit like Jerry Springer & Maury go off the air as well?

Less trash TV, the better.
 
Nov 18, 2017
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The circumstances must be pretty damning for ITV to throw the entire series under a bus over night.

Or they were looking for an excuse to end it / negotiate a cheaper contract with Kyle. They don't come across as the most moral broadcaster.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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Happened to my cousin (my dad's brothers son)

The producers feed them up to knock them down

He went on This Morning years back. A 'Vainest man in Britain' piece. Jack the lad type. Sure he was a numpty for doing so but he was harmless

Coverage of it was predictable and backlash standard. Comment sections were brutal. Not the sole factor, but he hung himself within two years. People saw him and thought he was fair game. Hell if Era saw the broadcast on release and a thread was made he'd get shit on.

Depression affects all. I don't blame the show in itself, but that and the likes of Kyle revel in inflating the worst characteristics of people because solely of ratings

He had other demons for years and on a surface level he came across badly in the piece, coupled with the fact you'd think 'ugh look at that bravado'

It's what makes watchable TV for that market

Giving such people a platform is counter-productive, as seen here with Kyle
Fucking hell, well this says it all, really.

Sorry to hear about your cousin, fam.
 

danowat

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Oct 27, 2017
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Isn't that now four recent suicides after appearances on ITV's trash reality TV shows?

This, Britain's Got Talent and Love Island.


Even if Kyle gets cancelled ITV already have that other cunt Rinder to fill the void.
Love Island has had 3 suicides related to it, TV companies do think people are disposable commodities, but there is also a part of the current pysche of wannabe celebrities that drives people to appear on these shows in the first place.

I am just surprised Big Brother hasn't had any (?), some of the people that appear on their are clearly unhinged
 

Stuart444

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Oct 25, 2017
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https://metro.co.uk/2019/05/13/62-y...ied-suspected-suicide-appearing-show-9523301/

The identity of a man who appeared on The Jeremy Kyle Show and died days after has been revealed as a 62-year-old grandfather, according to reports.

Digger driver Steven Dymond was said to have been 'feeling suicidal' and was 'in tears' after filming for the now-suspended show with his on-off girlfriend.

Now it's been claimed by his landlady, known as Shelley, he was found in his bedroom on Thursday following a suspected suicide.
 

APZonerunner

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Love Island has had 3 suicides related to it, TV companies do think people are disposable commodities, but there is also a part of the current pysche of wannabe celebrities that drives people to appear on these shows in the first place.

I am just surprised Big Brother hasn't had any (?), some of the people that appear on their are clearly unhinged

I think the big difference between Love Island and Big Brother is that everybody on Love Island is young. These are people who aren't necessarily prepared for the brutality of fame, or people for whom fame ends up leading them on a path that takes them to dark places. At 20-something they are inherently higher risk, I think.

The way TV companies act is despicable, though, absolutely, and Jeremy Kyle and things like Judge Rinder etc are in a different exploitative league to things like Love Island or Big Brother, as those shows are actively manipulating and insulting by design.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Edit : apparently not see reply below mine


https://uk.news.yahoo.com/transgender-lotto-millionaire-dies-18-months-after-scooping-4-m-110947543.html

Wonder if this story is linked to it?

I think she had been on Jeremy Kyle Twice before (definitely once) I saw one of the times she was on with her daughter where her daughter was embarrassed by her & tbh it showed just how Transphobic Jeremy Kyle is, despite him making out as if he isn't, if you watch the episode you can see how horrible his show was towards her, quite disgusting in fact, she is made a laughing stock, ridiculed etc

Was she due back for an updated episode I wonder
Aw crap, she was from my home city, I don't live there more but I had no idea she had died, that really is a shame.

As for Jeremy Kyle the guy is a complete dick head and his show should have been cancelled years ago, RIP to person who died.
 

Stop It

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Oct 25, 2017
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The only shocking thing is that this hasn't happened before.

Lie detector episodes are always the worst. If someone fails the person is dragged through the mud. It's so over the top I'd have said people must be in on it.

These shows should assess people on entry as well as offering after care. Bringing vulnerable people on for public castigation in the name of entertainment is beyond the pale.
 

Acorn

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Oct 25, 2017
10,972
Scotland
Yeah I'll add that I sorta knew someone that was on the show too. His ex hooked him into it, he wanted back with her and she wanted to be on TV. Dunno what happened after the show, never saw him in the pub or town again.
 

liquidtmd

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Oct 28, 2017
6,129
Fucking hell, well this says it all, really.

Sorry to hear about your cousin, fam.

Thanks, appreciated

It's tough and I / we as a family rarely talk about it but with this Kyle stuff breaking it seemed apt. We were close growing up but drifted apart around 18. I kept in touch at family get togethers and such, and knew he was...a bit of a fantasist?

The segment he was on I can no longer find a clip of but here is my cousin and overview

https://www.digitalspy.com/showbiz/...-robertson-takes-on-uks-vainest-man-pictures/

Again, I'm aware he did not come off well in the piece and he diverts from many in my family who are much more 'grounded' I suppose. Our shared Gran was mortified as a church going Mancunian prior to her death a few years ago.

If I saw it heck even I'd echo in the comments about his delusions, but what I will say is that in his head he'd been frequently fed hype and dreams about becoming something akin to the Love Island and Geordie Shore types. Paid a lot to do lifestyle segments and be a jack the lad type / heart of gold type. Some make it. Many do not.

However, as so often in life, what images you have in your head rarely translate well in reality. He had neither the broad charm, looks or 'x-factor' so to speak to sell what he thought he wanted, nor the mental strength to open yourself up to national criticism on such a platform

I knew this before he went on the show, heck most people could have sussed this out in talking to him for five minutes. Yet the producers waived him through, giving way to a shitshow of a hatchet job and the odd sight of 'An Agony Aunt' type figure (whose job you'd think would be to mentally help the guest) calling him pathetic. To what ends? Ratings. Clicks.

Maybe he was pathetic to the outside observer, based on the content of the piece alone. But broadly, I know from his dad after his death that he spent years replaying that TV interview and living with thousands of anonymous comments calling him a dickhead.

He couldn't take it, so ended it. I've always been conscious about adding to pile ons online prior to it, but especially more now - regardless of how things appear on the surface
 
Oct 29, 2017
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Thanks, appreciated

It's tough and I / we as a family rarely talk about it but with this Kyle stuff breaking it seemed apt. We were close growing up but drifted apart around 18. I kept in touch at family get togethers and such, and knew he was...a bit of a fantasist?

The segment he was on I can no longer find a clip of but here is my cousin and overview

https://www.digitalspy.com/showbiz/...-robertson-takes-on-uks-vainest-man-pictures/

Again, I'm aware he did not come off well in the piece and he diverts from many in my family who are much more 'grounded' I suppose. Our shared Gran was mortified as a church going Mancunian prior to her death a few years ago.

If I saw it heck even I'd echo in the comments about his delusions, but what I will say is that in his head he'd been frequently fed hype and dreams about becoming something akin to the Love Island and Geordie Shore types. Paid a lot to do lifestyle segments and be a jack the lad type / heart of gold type. Some make it. Many do not.

However, as so often in life, what images you have in your head rarely translate well in reality. He had neither the broad charm, looks or 'x-factor' so to speak to sell what he thought he wanted, nor the mental strength to open yourself up to national criticism on such a platform

I knew this before he went on the show, heck most people could have sussed this out in talking to him for five minutes. Yet the producers waived him through, giving way to a shitshow of a hatchet job and the odd sight of 'An Agony Aunt' type figure (whose job you'd think would be to mentally help the guest) calling him pathetic. To what ends? Ratings. Clicks.

Maybe he was pathetic to the outside observer, based on the content of the piece alone. But broadly, I know from his dad after his death that he spent years replaying that TV interview and living with thousands of anonymous comments calling him a dickhead.

He couldn't take it, so ended it. I've always been conscious about adding to pile ons online prior to it, but especially more now - regardless of how things appear on the surface
It serves as a stark reminder, I'd like to pretend that if I saw that clip outside of our context I wouldn't think anything about it. In all honesty my biggest take-away would probably be what a cunt that Agony Aunt is, not sure where in the remit for a job like that is calling someone pathetic.

I mean, I can't say I'd care. I wouldn't seek out videos like that nor engage I actively publicly discuss anything where it would be visible.

But, fuck. It's horrible. This Morning, Jeremy Kyle or whatever else show these people for segments, five minutes and we lose sight of it, people just have to leave cruel comments online because of course they do but then move on to the next segment. This Morning don't care because it's just five minutes of their time. But five minutes on something inconsequential to everyone else can ruin someone's life.

Jesus, it's not even like the story has any public value.

Sorry if my thoughts are a bit scattershot, it's just tragic. I knew with Jeremy Kyle and the like but it goes so much deeper and into what most people would see as wholesome.
 
Dec 2, 2017
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The Jeremy Kyle Show guest who died following filming was a 63-year-old man who took his own life, according to reports.
The man has been named as grandfather Steve Dymond.

A spokesman for Gosport coroners office said: "HM Coroner has ordered a post-mortem to be carried out and is awaiting the result. An inquest is likely to be opened into the death within the next few days."
Mr Dymond took a lie-detector test to convince fiancee Jane Callaghan he had not cheated but they split after he failed, according to The Sun.

https://news.sky.com/story/jeremy-kyle-show-victim-63-took-his-own-life-11719596


Can I just add, anyone who judges people based solely on how the Jeremy Kyle show presents them, as someone pointed out, without any context or additional details so he can exploit them for poverty porn tv, is a fucking mug.
 

Paxton25

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May 9, 2018
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Surly love island should be cancelled too after two contestants killed themselves ? 🤷🏼‍♀️
 

Dwebble

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Oct 25, 2017
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Surly love island should be cancelled too after two contestants killed themselves ? 🤷🏼‍♀️
I certainly think that Love Island's vetting procedures and aftercare policies should be overhauled, but they didn't purposefully and nakedly exploit some of society's most vulnerable in the way that the Jeremy Kyle Show did.
 
Oct 29, 2017
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Surly love island should be cancelled too after two contestants killed themselves ? 🤷🏼‍♀️
Love Island is a completely different show.

Jeremy Kyle is nakedly exploitative of the lower classes and offers absolutely no benefit for going on it, it acts only to hurt and mock vulnerable people in our society.

Love Island is just a show about fuckable narcissists living in a Villa who will come out as minor celebs and make shitloads through being 'influencers.' It definitely has issues and their aftercare needs to be better but it's really not comparable at all.
 

Box

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Oct 27, 2017
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There was a discussion on the radio about the so called after care the guests were supposed to receive. Stating that it could be 200 miles away, and a single meeting. The lad that was offered a job on the show ended up doing half a day at a kennel. Didn't realise there'd been violence on the show either, every time I've been exposed to it, it looked like the same guests shouting about the same shit at each other.

I see Jeremy Kyle quite often at Sandown Park. Doesn't seem like a terrible person irl but holy shit the way he pecks at some of the guests.
 
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Blue Lou

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https://www.itv.com/presscentre/press-releases/statement-itv-regarding-jeremy-kyle-show

Statement from ITV regarding The Jeremy Kyle Show

Carolyn McCall, ITV's CEO, announced today: "Given the gravity of recent events we have decided to end production of The Jeremy Kyle Show.

"The Jeremy Kyle Show has had a loyal audience and has been made by a dedicated production team for 14 years, but now is the right time for the show to end.

"Everyone at ITV's thoughts and sympathies are with the family and friends of Steve Dymond."

The previously announced review of the episode of the show is underway and will continue.

ITV will continue to work with Jeremy Kyle on other projects.