I decided to read the small text and was not disappointed.
I decided to read the small text and was not disappointed.
simplest explanation cant always be correct. the goal of every crime is to give the impression of the simplest explanation. if it truly was a suicide, as some here seem comfortable believing, there's no harm in investigating it to the fullest possible extent.
honestly what you believe is your own business, was genuinely trying not to word it dismissively.I don't take any comfort in it, at all. And I'm all for real investigation. Quack doctor who argues that OJ couldn't have killed Ron and Nicole is not, and cannot, be part of any of that.
Lmao dudeDude killed himself.. there's nothing more to it.. prison guards take shortcuts all the time.. he tried before to kill himself.
"move along, nothing to see here."Dude killed himself.. there's nothing more to it.. prison guards take shortcuts all the time.. he tried before to kill himself.
More like a puddle.Thought ERA should be better than diving down conspiracy theory rabbit holes.
Being a sheep that gets spoon fed what it's supposed to believe and never questions anything is somehow better?Thought ERA should be better than diving down conspiracy theory rabbit holes.
Sheep.Dude killed himself.. there's nothing more to it.. prison guards take shortcuts all the time.. he tried before to kill himself.
This was going to be the most high profile case of the century. There should have never been a situation where "whoops, a couple prison guards took some shortcuts and now Epstein's dead" was a real possibility. Do you think they would've been that lackadaisical with El Chapo's surveillance?Dude killed himself.. there's nothing more to it.. prison guards take shortcuts all the time.. he tried before to kill himself.
A man that led a child sex trafficking ring and has connections to the wealthiest and most powerful people on Earth somehow turning up dead despite being in maximum security isn't a conspiracy theory. It's basic critical thinking.
He was still paying off accusers and had every intention of fighting the charges. Last time this happened dude basically got off with a slap on the wrist.Dude lived a life of luxury and is about to go down for real this time and live the rest of his life in prison and doesn't want to go on.
Why is that hard to understand either? The case was going on with or without him as far as others involved. Epstein wasn't going to get out of this by squealing about everyone else involved.. he was going to prison no matter what this time.
The answer I've read to that question is the prison was understaffed.Even if everything is taken at face value, that's still a massive scandal. How on Earth did a federal prison let the most high-profile inmate in the country kill himself and no one was alerted, saw it happening, tried to stop it, etc etc?
Sounds like something that should have been ouThe answer I've read to that question is the prison was understaffed.
He was still paying off accusers and had every intention of fighting the charges. Last time this happened dude basically got off with a slap on the wrist.
This is a guy who spent millions on transhumanism to extend his life. He has actually stated that he wants his head and penis frozen at the time of his death so they can be brought back in the future (look it up, not kidding). He wouldn't kill himself in a jail cell to let his body rot.
Oh and notice how immediately after his death the media moved on pretty much entirely. As if it never happened at all.
I think it's the first conspiracy theory I actually believe in. Why? Because most conspiracy theories are deeply flawed. They are bad explanations of what happened that doesn't stand logic and reason.
Not this time.
Even if everything is taken at face value, that's still a massive scandal. How on Earth did a federal prison let the most high-profile inmate in the country kill himself and no one was alerted, saw it happening, tried to stop it, etc etc?
The answer I've read to that question is the prison was understaffed.
My "tin foil hat" theory:
IMO, Epstein absolutely did kill himself, but he didn't do it just because he was in prison and depressed about his situation. I think he was probably told to do it or else something would happen to his family. But if he did go through with it, his family would be taken care of. People in the prison were probably paid off to make sure it happened as well.
I don't think he was straight-up murdered but I don't think it was just a simple suicide either.
You'd thinkSounds like something that should have been out into consideration before placing him in there.
Oh I agree. The excuse is nothing more than that. It may be true but such a high profile case implicating so many other people of wealth and power should have maybe triggered some sort of special protection for the lynchpin of the whole scheme.The thing that doesn't get hammered in enough is that even in the "best case" where everything on face-value is what happened this is still a case where "gross negligence/incompetence" doesn't even begin to describe how massively the justice department fucked up. That a massively high-profile inmate in a maximum-security prison was given free reign to kill himself as if he was alone in his own bedroom is completely unacceptable and is fully deserving of some form of reprimand and action.
It's pretty astounding to me that the same people who would have laughed at the mere possibility that a billionaire is running a secret pedophile right for wealthy elites on a private island is now, without even blinking, insist that the possibility that he was murdered in prison is a "conspiracy theory rabbit hole"Thought ERA should be better than diving down conspiracy theory rabbit holes.
It's pretty astounding to me that the same people who would have laughed at the mere possibility that a billionaire is running a secret pedophile right for wealthy elites on a private island is now, without even blinking, insist that the possibility that he was murdered in prison is a "conspiracy theory rabbit hole"
Like how little self awareness do you have?
budget cuts. /SpaceballsThe answer I've read to that question is the prison was understaffed.
The same people who think that him being murdered in prison is a conspiracy theory obviously.Who the hell would think it was impossible Epstein was doing what he was doing?
Christ. Get out of your own ass.I think this case does actually represent a pretty basic critical thinking test. Accepting suicide as the most likely explanation given all the facts should be obvious to anyone applying those skills. The problem is identifying the misuse of reason requires the same skills necessary for critical thinking, so you end up in a catch-22. The Dunning-Krueger of critical thinking.
The same people who think that him being murdered in prison is a conspiracy theory obviously.
Do you have any idea how many people refuse to acknowledge these things until it's been decided by the courts?
I mean it doesn´t really matter if he or someone else did it. Powerful people wanted him dead and they got what they wanted. If that happened by hiring a hitman or pressuring Epstein into suicide or whatever else is anyones guess.There is no way in fuck that man killed himself. Call me a conspiracy theorist until the day I die.
Dude.... I don't even know what to say. Like you seriously think this was common knowledge but it somehow just wasn't in mainstream news until he was actually charged?No? The idea he was doing these things wasn't outlandish or contradicted by any facts. I don't think you'll find anyone suggesting murder is a conspiracy theory that felt the same about his crimes. You're just making shit up completely.
Dude.... I don't even know what to say. Like you seriously think this was common knowledge but it somehow just wasn't in mainstream news until he was actually charged?
So you're telling me that you think that if you were to tell people what Epstein has been accused of 10 years ago, you don't think it would have sounded like a conspiracy theory to most people?....what?
"It's pretty astounding to me that the same people who would have laughed at the mere possibility that a billionaire is running a secret pedophile right for wealthy elites on a private island is now, without even blinking, insist that the possibility that he was murdered in prison is a "conspiracy theory rabbit hole" "
Your claim wasn't that his activities weren't common knowledge (obviously they weren't) but that those disbelieving a murder would think the accusations concerning his crimes were crazy.
So you're telling me that you think that if you were to tell people what Epstein has been accused of 10 years ago, you don't think it would have sounded like a conspiracy theory to most people?
Question: Why is it now that so many people say "The Clinton's did it"?
Was there something I missed or is it just Benghazi: The sequel?
Bill took a number of flights on Epstein's private plane, so the idea was inevitably going to pop up.
We live in different worlds. Not sure what else to say.No. He had already been convicted of multiple crimes by that point. Your comparison here doesn't work at all and regardless is based on you completely fabricating positions for other people.
Bill took a number of flights on Epstein's private plane, so the idea was inevitably going to pop up.