They literally straight up said that August's event is reserved for hardware/business/service announcements. It's coming.
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I remember PS+ was banging back on the PS3, I was getting seriously amazing games and it was well worth the money. Once Sony locked MP behind a paywall PS+ turned to absolute shit, mine runs out in August and I ain't gonna bother with it anymore.
Hoping MS do this which puts pressure on Sony but I really doubt Sony give two fucks about any PR which comes out of this, if their financials suffer then they will drop PS+. I see Sony going down kicking and screaming in terms of dropping paid online, it seems to make so much money for them and they will do freaky shit to keep it going. I see PS+ and Now getting bundled at a low price for example if MS do go free.
Fuck paid online.
Hoping MS do this which puts pressure on Sony but I really doubt Sony give two fucks about any PR which comes out of this, if their financials suffer then they will drop PS+. I see Sony going down kicking and screaming in terms of dropping paid online, it seems to make so much money for them and they will do freaky shit to keep it going. I see PS+ and Now getting bundled at a low price for example if MS do go free.
Fuck paid online.
But "competition" is actually what made everyone charge people for online gaming on consoles...
I already own Yakuza Kiwami. One of the core problems with PS+ is you pay the same shitty cost regardless of whether or not you own the free games they're giving away. There's no alternatives, no savings, nothing. You're on the hook for their garbage fee even if you get NOTHING from it.
not sure how sony would react, but oh boy, it would be really awkward if MS stops charging for online while nintendo is asking money for their "service"
This would be big if true. I hope it is!
I read both comments with the voice from the Halo character (I forgot the name)
Okay and when that announcement goes by without the online paywall going away than what?
Maybe, but then they could also announce it after Sony make their plans for next-gen online known and get an easy win if they were to continue with paid online, similar to the used games stuff last time around.
I don't think it's guarenteed at all but I could see how it would work for them to wait a while to say something.
Sounds like this is specifically referring to F2P games, which is still a big positive development, but not quite the megaton being ballyhooed in this thread.
So just F2P stuff? why can't these insiders write it clearly wtf lol
If Microsoft does this, Sony will have to follow suit. Maybe not immediately, because they'd be perceived as reactionary (and thus weak), but they will.
Then a verified gaming insider with a history of accurate predictions was wrong, I guess?
Are you ready to eat crow when you're wrong though?
I still don't believe it will go away completely, but if it does that is cool. Still not going XSX even if the online is free, but it does mean I will stop paying my Ultimate every month and then just get GP for a month when a game I want to play comes out.
Is that a counter-argument? Fortnite isn't a Microsoft product. Fortnite also doesn't have a separate product that millions of people will be opting into for MORE money than what Gold cost. Fortnite is a F2P game that prior to MTX, has no revenue streams. Microsoft has separate revenue streams. lol why am I even responding to this?
Dropping live will only incentivize people to use gamepass and get into a potential halo battlepass. And if gamepass has to go up in price in the future its a much easier pill to swallow as a console user. Also. Yes gold is a money maker. But it's a drop In thee bucket to Microsoft. Pivoting focus entirely to a potentially more lucrative sub that isnt exclusive to a console is the way to go.
Gamepass subs will certainly help supplement the cost.
But also this is MS and the amount of money they make from the entire Xbox brand still pales in comparison to what they make from Azure hosting and Office 365
I mean, it actually seems like a really good bombshell move. I can see online being free making big waves and moving Xbox's into many homes, though not nearly enough to beat the behemoth that is Playstation. It makes a lot of sense both considering their PC games don't require a sub, and Xcloud is going to be part of the sub that includes online multiplayer right now, making it essentially free.
They been playing chicken on price what makes you think they aren't playing chicken with this.
It will win customers back and they are just going for the dramatic entrance.
Yes I am because Microsoft is not going to drop the online paywall. are you?
They are not going to do drop the online paywall. Straight up it's just not going to happen. they will combine it will gamepass if anything.
Dropping Gold and moving anyone who hasn't moved to Game Pass Ultimate to Game Pass Ultimate with a 1:1 transition of remaining time plus a bonus month or something along those lines would be interesting. Keep people within a service, offering them the ability to play more games now instead of just paying for Gold. 30 million GPU subs incoming!
Why do you care if has a big impact on sales? Aren't you a consumer? it's a big deal for consumers who get to save money over the life of the console.
And yes, since this is referring to multiplayer games, people will go where the games are.
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humm, I guess this...
..and this...
...shows more evidence that it's just dropping the paywall for f2p
..and this...
...shows more evidence that it's just dropping the paywall for f2p
Fucking finally.
So now the question I have is, what will I need to pay for to keep that years-of-gold-service ticker on my profile going.
Just switch to Gamepass. That will probably do the trick.
How exactly? It's very likely the service is currently operating at a loss while gold is free money.
So it's like Xbox Live Gold but with better games.
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I bought four 90 day subs to XBLG when I got my X1X at launch, and I still have two of them left because the quality of games offered has been so poor. AC Syndicate and Superhot were the highlights and they came out a long time ago.
Nah, you get diminishing returns after your showcase event. Sony's next event will have lower numbers than their June showcase as well.
Imagine being Nintendo and *just* starting the subscription service to get a bit more money and this happens
This tweet says the opposite of what you've just said.
In any case, again, it's just speculation from Grubb.
I'm pretty sure the poster is referring to all Gold going away. The insider clarified this as well
It could just be speculation as well though
Did anyone not notice zhugex basically saying this is only for f2p games and gold isn't going away? Should prob close thread or update title
Reposting for posterity
A whole lot of conflicting info swirling around, so we'll have to wait and see.
Oh yeah that is why they take money from my account to play online every month
Sure! Like I said earlier, I have no more knowledge than any of you here. I just find it funny that a bunch of randoms on an internet forum think they know better than an industry insider.
Them dropping online paywall is such a big win for microsoft that if they were doing it than it's not something waiting till sony has announced stuff, it's on the level of announcing and changing the whole narritive instantly. We were promised that the software event in july was gamechanging, it was okay but definititely not earthshattering or an announcement as big as getting rid of the online paywall for all games.
I don't have more knowledge but theses insiders sure have been hyping things up that turn into nothing.
Sony, like any company, bows towards what will make them money. I don't see them moving away from paid online unless they have something to replace it in terms of revenue. As for Nintendo, well, were they being different when they went for paid online? 😋 Wouldn't bet on them dropping it. I just wouldn't bet on Sony doing so either
That is true, Nintendo's games are a factor for why many would pay for their online, shitty as it is. At the same time though, since they aren't quite as dependent on it to make their profits, if it causes enough of a backlash to hurt their business, they can more easily move away from it. That being said, I agree in that I don't see either of them moving away from paid online for the time being
They wouldn't have to. They're the market leaders and players are fine with the idea of subscription-gated online multiplayer, thanks in no small part to Xbox.
This isn't something that will tip the scales for 99% of the audience.
People should really watch this. Jeff says "he heard" so it's more than just speculation and it's gold entirely so it isn't just F2P.
Also, if it was just F2P dropping the yearly sub doesn't really make sense.
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