Personally I think we will see more AA experiences with easier development time being emphasized by the companies for reasons to get more content out there.
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[Jeff Grubb/VentureBeat] PlayStation boss Jim Ryan needs to create a better narrative
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VentureBeat is a trade publication for people actually working or financially invested in the industry. GR is just one of many blogs. And that's no offense to them, but no serious person would compare these posts to make any point, really.
Lmao sony just sent off the ps4 with a bang launched with a shit ton of exclusives, has a bunch more announced and coming this year or soon after and has been constantly promoting indies in showcases that people complain are filled with too many indies .
Is PR and Marketing really that important to people ?
Honestly the fact that this is aimed at Jim Ryan says more than anything else in the article. People really got themselves fucked up with the fact that he doesn't like to talk as much as Phil Spencer
Is PR and Marketing really that important to people ?
Honestly the fact that this is aimed at Jim Ryan says more than anything else in the article. People really got themselves fucked up with the fact that he doesn't like to talk as much as Phil Spencer
If Returnal ends up being great or really good I feel like a lot of these Sony negativity is going to go away. Not that it should, they need to be called out on plenty of stuff and improve but the solid game lineup just keeps delivering and masking some of those problems for the most part.
But this article is from a different author on a different website. I don't understand why you would combine them?
How are yall not realizing those are different people writing the two articles for different sites.
I would say "AAs" these days (not only on PS) are also indies. Not every indie is 2D/side-scroller etc., we have things like Valheim, Call of the Sea, Hades, Phasmophobia, Paradise Killer... that before would be called "AA".
People need their game hype catnip like cyberpunk 2077 clearly.
I think we do, but that's a narrative everyone bought after Schreier report, now eveyone believes PlayStation doesn't care about smaller games.
You're crazy. Give me those crafted messages to manipulate my opinions I NEED THEM.
I haven't followed his whole career, so I might be out of the loop regarding the guy... but something changed with Grubb mid-late 2020, imo.
Sony doesn't support small games is like when people would say Nintendo doesn't make new ip and you'd point them out and get hit with the "those don't count"
On TWITTER you say?
lol
I'm sorry, but whenever I see twitter annoucements I just can't help but smirk
Jim Ryan, please be my friend like Aaron Greenberg and Phil Spencer, thank you.
I think the idea is to compare how clear it is that there's no actual "narrative" here, just, what's in Grubb's head/circle of friends.
I think the idea is to compare how clear it is that there's no actual "narrative" here, just, what's in Grubb's head/circle of friends.
Oh I see, this just reads bad but really all they are saying is that sony cant win either way. I think people assumed it was also by grubb as well.
Pr and marketing is usually the way we see and hear about games.
That's definitely true. I think the difference in this particular case would be just what is on offer and how it's being offered via platform holders. I personally love stuff like Bugsnax but can see why it's not covering the bases others want, especially when it comes to certain genres and the like.
Definitely a situation where there's a lot of different avenues and such to consider.
What a strange comment about indies after the last few State of Plays Sony gave, cant agree with that at all.
You should probably clarify that the link is to an article written by a different author for a different website.
I don't know, it's starting to sound like the more headlines and notoriety Jeff Grub gets the more he thinks he needs headlines.
Press? as soon as Schreier's report got out a bunch of journalist were expressing their concern about this topic (maybe the Days Gone debacle took more spotlight but Sony focusing on big games was mentioned a lot), I mean that's probably why Grubb decided to make an article.
There was also the February SOP and the PS5 reveal both heavily featuring indies, also been the main PS5 PS+ stuff that's usually a day 1 indie. But Jim Ryan blowing smoke up are arses is more important for the narrative than actions I guess.
The point is that pursuing a "narrative" is useless, people see what they want.
Every SoP has indies, and people complain every time.
PlayStation has 22 million followers on Twitter, 13m on Youtube, and 39 million on Facebook, when they do those Indie Blog Post days they push those announcements to a whole lot more people than just Twitter or the PS Blog.
The truth is, negative PlayStation news is hot when it comes to clicks, so all these personalities / websites are making this fake narrative to stir up shit and benefit directly from it.
Why is it fake you may ask? Well last year's two biggest PS5 showcases were filled with indies (even awful looking ones like Goodbye Volcano High), and their State of Play presentations have been highly criticized for focusing too much on indies, but now there's a narrative in place to generate clicks that tell us Sony doesn't care about indies like Kena, Bugsnax, and Stray, nor do they fund / produce mid-tier games like Sackboy, Destruction All-Stars, Astro's Playroom, and Returnal.
We are being told in the same sentence that Sony is risk-averse because they have abandoned a sequel to a commercially successful game (Days Gone) for a new IP... seriously how more fake can you be?
Why is it fake you may ask? Well last year's two biggest PS5 showcases were filled with indies (even awful looking ones like Goodbye Volcano High), and their State of Play presentations have been highly criticized for focusing too much on indies, but now there's a narrative in place to generate clicks that tell us Sony doesn't care about indies like Kena, Bugsnax, and Stray, nor do they fund / produce mid-tier games like Sackboy, Destruction All-Stars, Astro's Playroom, and Returnal.
We are being told in the same sentence that Sony is risk-averse because they have abandoned a sequel to a commercially successful game (Days Gone) for a new IP... seriously how more fake can you be?
Don't think I can agree with the whole PS hates Indies when they had Kena, Jett, Stray, Little Devil Inside etc. at the Future of Gaming Event.
This whole thing is weird to me. The original story was really a non-story IMO. Giant company doesn't greenlight sequel to a game and hands over development of a remake to the studio that made the original... there's literally nothing there that is concerning. It sounds like business as usual to me.
Schriers article actually had some meat to it where this imo is actual hyperbole. Id bet money Grubb is just trying to piggyback off Jason's article with a much weaker presentation.
I think people need to calm down a bit and wait to see what this summer brings us. These "narratives" seemed forced (remember a year ago the narrative was that MS doesn't believe in generations while Sony does, implying a clean break from PS4... then Sony showed that several of their games are cross-gen).
That's not to say that there isn't some merit here but even the "narrative" is a bit confused. This article says people will get bored of sequels but Sony actually killed a sequel and put Bend on a new IP. That is probably because Days Gone didn't set the world on fire, but... let's see what Bend has cooking.
That's not to say that there isn't some merit here but even the "narrative" is a bit confused. This article says people will get bored of sequels but Sony actually killed a sequel and put Bend on a new IP. That is probably because Days Gone didn't set the world on fire, but... let's see what Bend has cooking.
That's not even a Grubb article. That's by a person named Zackery Carnely.
And they had FNAF, Sifu, Kena, Knockout City, Oddworld, & Solar Ash at the last SOP
You couldn't make this stuff up. Shiba this should be added to the op or thread marked 😂
*edit - I see the article is not by Grubb himself but I guess the point still stands re. 'lack' of Indie and small title support.
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So let me get this straight:
Sony showed a bunch of indies in their major PS5 reveal event, have monthly launches of indies on PS+, does multiple events with them throughout the year between state of play, a day of indie trailers and the same for VR trailers.
But they are distancing themselves from indies based on... an interview from 2017, when since SIE has established a dedicated indie division headed by Shuhei Yoshida and reporting directly to Jim Ryan?
This feels badly researched.
Sony showed a bunch of indies in their major PS5 reveal event, have monthly launches of indies on PS+, does multiple events with them throughout the year between state of play, a day of indie trailers and the same for VR trailers.
But they are distancing themselves from indies based on... an interview from 2017, when since SIE has established a dedicated indie division headed by Shuhei Yoshida and reporting directly to Jim Ryan?
This feels badly researched.
Yeah I agree, its typical management of your portfolio happens damn near everywhere with projects lol. Its really making a mountain out of an anthill, without knowing the reasons for those key decisions which I'm sure were deliberated between the studios etc it really is just a random industry story.