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Jeff Grubb implies free F2P Xbox Live is still happening, was just delayed
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A change in business model. Focused on converting users to GamePass and enabling play on console, PC, and mobile.
a) they will make it back over time with GamePass
b) it gives them a competitive advantage
I think the main goal is to convert everyone (as in, the vast majority of people) to GamePass Ultimate and then kill off Gold
what competitive advantage did a free PSN give Sony in the PS3 era?
I just don't see it happening. F2P games not requiring XBLG? Yes, I can totally see that happening.
Yeah, it's pretty clear that they're going to streamline their service offerings. Games with Gold vs. Game Pass is a little confusing.
Clarification
That's why they had to offer it for free, until they got to some semblance of functional parity.
It was a meme for its shitty infrastructure and shoddy security. XBL doesn't have that problem.
PSN sucked ass during the PS3 era. If it was as feature rich as it is now then things would have been different.
Also the reason Xbox might be willing to drop the paywall is because they believe that if everyone can play online that equals a ton more mtx purchases. Enough to make up the losses when combined with whatever they're projecting gamepass's revenue to be in the future. It's also pretty nice differentiator to PS/Nintendo.
Nobody is claiming people will abandon PS in droves because of free XBL, but obviously it's still a point in their favor.
Xbox has said a couple of times that Game Pass subscribers play more games and buy more games. They've likely determined that they stand to increase revenue by getting more folks converted to Game Pass.
I think they probably view Game Pass as the growth service. If Xbox becomes a desirable place to play due to a lack of paywalled multiplayer (for free-to-play games, at least), that's more people they can potentially sell Game Pass to.
They're clearly making a mass-market play with Series S. I think Game Pass is a service your average person can understand a little bit better than Xbox Live Gold, which is a little amorphous.
I'm not sure why people would expect Microsoft to not change their strategy up a bit. This past generation clearly didn't work out as intended for them. They're the challenger brand; you'd expect them to shake things up and make some bold moves.
Jeff's clarification doesn't really clarify much. Weren't his original tweets speculation that it was going away completely? Did he walk that back at some point to just be F2P games not requiring a sub?
Going away for F2P makes sense, since that's the industry standard. Really doubt all of Gold is going free, but would be dope.
Makes sense.
They have changed Gold prices in some regions recently, unlikely they're making it obsolete based on that
XSX and XSS price tags are spot on. add a couple months of GP with all access and no more gold and you have a winner right there.
Less entry barriers = more people entering = more people spending time in their ecosystem = more potential money spenders.
Paying for it hasn't improved things in that respect. PSN is notorious for its shitty speeds.
Going away just for F2P games won't move any needles. It's something they should have done 7 years ago.
Rumour is a publisher has made a deal with Xbox for Gamepass. One rumored publisher is EA, so that EA Play could become an add on for Gamepass.
What would you know, Jeffrey Grubb? I only trust Jeff Grubb.
The sort that allowed it to catch up after being months behind and enormously expensive?
PS3 didn't catch up because of a poor online network which subsequently got hacked in the tail end of its life.
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