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Jeff Grubb - Expect to see Fable (?) but not The Initiative new Project at Xbox Games Showcase
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Shinobi is an industry shill so of course he's going to say that.
The general consensus from expected users from ERA you mean.
Doesn't really matter where it's from, MS is going to have to be the one ta take advantage of this opportunity by delivering a better show.
I think Halo will drive folks to Xbox, yes. Halo has been shown to do that before. Halo was a system seller for Xbox. People bought it just for that one game. If Halo Infinite is done right, it could be that game again. Not sure about the rest and whether they are system sellers.
But the same question can be asked to you. Do you think Spiderman, an expansion, would drive people outside of the Sony ecosystem to the PS5? Probably not. Not if they didn't buy a PS4 when Spiderman released.
Why do you expect Microsoft to NOT have the same type of diversity from their lineup? Why wouldn't Microsoft have something for everyone?
The "general consensus" was not even close to that sentiment, unless you're only listening to select pockets of gamers. Before the show, there was more of a concensus that Sony would not have much to show because they typically don't have much as far as exclusive games in the first 2 years of the generation. Yet they announced a relatively surprising number of first-party games, including new games in some of their biggest franchises, and plenty of smaller titles thrown in the mix. Lots of games that are (best guess) coming out within 12 months of launch. The "negativity" I noticed was around the look of the console itself. I think what they showed is a good measure of what to expect from any publisher, including Microsoft.
The opportunity for them is to show off great looking games, which I'm sure they will.
Trying to top an already great showing would be the icing on the cake.
I've seen this sentiment several times, so sorry for singling you out, but I want to address it: You honestly think Insomniac can turn around and make a full-fledged sequel in only two years? Sorry, but that's a ridiculous expectation for a AAA title.
The fact that we're even getting a stand-alone Spiderman title for launch, even if it's a smaller game, ALONG with a big new Ratchet & Clank game while also knowing that they're actively working on Spiderman 2 is nothing short of impressive. Insomniac is doing some good shit, but they are not gods.
Do you expect to see Gears 6 at Microsoft's conference? No, we'll likely see an expansion on Gears 5. Because such a turnaround for a full game in a short time is impossible.
And no, none of this has anything to do with console wars. I just don't think it's fair to have these completely unrealistic expectations for developers just so they can excite you for a plastic box.
Perfect dark is not the new game. Everyone ASSUMES it is the new game. Many insiders have hinted that may not even be the case but people keep sharing on that rumor.
Considering how much Forza Horizon sells, how much Halo MCC sold on PC and the strenght of the Fable franchise before MS fucked it up, i do think people can enter MS's ecossystm (through PC or console) if the new games are good, yes.
For someone talking about the ERA bubble, you sure are in it :P
i do agree that there needs to exist variety in the event but i don't think it'll be missing that tbh
so are you saying shinobi602 is lying or over hyping this event cos if it is either of the two then Jeff and other insiders must all be lying too.
I was more talking about ERA and people like us. The general public is more on Sonys side, so I don't think it realy matters what MS shows.
I have never been a big Halo guy, so I don't know how much a good halo Infinte showing could do.
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It'll interesting to see how much views this event generates compared to Sony.
LOL....right... Like when he said this about the May showcase:
Xbox Game Studios |OT8| Ori and the Speed of the SSDs
I would keep expectations tempered tomorrow.
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Sounds like you are trying to temper expectations and now you're wondering about view counts vs Sony's showing. Is it concern? Or console warring? What is it?
Obviously going to be lesser as PS is the stronger brand. But that doesn't matter nor is it a gauge of the quality of the show.
LOL....right... Like when he said this about the May showcase:
Xbox Game Studios |OT8| Ori and the Speed of the SSDs
I would keep expectations tempered tomorrow.
Sounds like you are trying to temper expectations and now you're wondering about view counts vs Sony's showing. Is it concern? Or console warring? What is it?
You know exactly what it is.
Drunkensamurai has already produced a list wars, called shinobi a shill because he said it would be a good show, downplayed the games Microsoft will show and now he's comparing view counts. He really is checking every box.
LOL....right... Like when he said this about the May showcase:
Xbox Game Studios |OT8| Ori and the Speed of the SSDs
I would keep expectations tempered tomorrow.
Sounds like you are trying to temper expectations and now you're wondering about view counts vs Sony's showing. Is it concern? Or console warring? What is it?
You sound very sensitive.
Nope, just calling you out on your console warring bullshit.
I mean who will buy a Xbox for these games are already on their ecosystem(pc or console).
What will bring new players to their ecosystem is games out of Fable, Gears, Forza and Halo franchises.
These franchises are out there since first Xbox(besides gears).
These games I know will come , I want see the new franchises( obsidian rpg, the initiative, inxile big AAA)
When you talk about "general consensus" of course it matter where it comes from, if it´s from a certain expected group is not "general consensus".
That doesn´t mean that MS shouldn´t try to have an even better show.
Do you think God of War brought people into the PS ecosystem? That was a franchise that was around for a long time too.
The general consensus was from people are follow gaming news. I think it was Jeff Grubb (Might have been a different insider) who said the same thing, that Sony left the door open for MS.
I think you are perhaps underestimating what cross appeal Fable had back in the day.
It's been a decade since the last game and there will be a whole generation of people who won't have played it.
It's been long enough that I am excited to see it , we haven't had anything in a Similar vein since Skyrim in 2011, so I do think that there is a void waiting to be filled.
New games and series are always good, but as we know, new IP are more difficult to market. Which is why the big hitting AAA games from Sony and MS have been mostly sequels to known entities.
Grouping Fable with Gears, Forza, and Halo is very disingenuous of you. Nobody expected a new Fable game until rumors of Playground developing one started and we haven't had a AAA Fable game in forever. Revitalizations of old franchises can certainly bring new people in. God of War is a perfect example of that.
How are you managing to shove Fable - a rebooted IP that skipped current gen - into this console warz-esque narrative?
I have no freaking idea why a thread about one game being announced later in the year instead of July has now turned into list wars and a whole narrative about people the console would appeal to.
i don't mean that to dismiss sackboy, i absolutely loved the announcement and can't wait for it. It's just that both games are 3D platformers (a rarity nowadays) that look really good and have big production values.
C'mon now. Shinobi is a trusted insider who's provided legitimate and substantiated leaks for years. No need for this character assassination.
I totally understood what you meant especially the fact that they are both 3D platformers and Psychonauts is a very unique platformer with amazing visuals and gameplay mechanics to boot.
I'm interested in Fable, but not too shocked that we won't see The Initiative. Maybe closer to the end of the year.
A new Fable?
Don't go playing with my heart like that. As long as it isn't related to Fable 3 that is. Absolutely love the first two games though.
Don't go playing with my heart like that. As long as it isn't related to Fable 3 that is. Absolutely love the first two games though.
People keep heckling MS to bring back Banjo or Conker, but apparently the line should be drawn at Perfect Dark?-
They brought KI back and people loved it. You think anyone complained it was a 'dead IP' or demanded MS created a new fighting game IP from scratch?