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Jeff Grubb: Dirt 5's 120Hz mode is why Xbox series X is so exciting
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The game looks considerably worse.
120fps will disappear within the first year, or year and a half.
If someone wants 120fps gaming they need to stick to PC.
And it's a niche within a niche when it comes to TVs.
120fps will disappear within the first year, or year and a half.
If someone wants 120fps gaming they need to stick to PC.
And it's a niche within a niche when it comes to TVs.
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Sony aren't paying him or his white outline.
Yes
It's a fine option, but it's true that I don't know how many people will have TVs with 120fps support. Really small market, I would be surprised if the telemetry of studios tell them something above 1-2%.
Yes it is a niche. How many people have TVs that support 120fps. Not the fake 120Hz shit.
95 percent of console users do not have true 120hz TVs
In a couple of years it will be more common
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I find it really hard to persuade myself to watch his videos and read his takes seriously since he is so big Xbox fanboy always dissing PS5 so.. nah, wont watch..
It looks great, but I would like to see a comparison vid btw this and FH4 (XSX upgrade) though. Codemasters are a very talented bunch but PG games is on a whole other level.
Or, you know, he can only talk about Xbox Series X impressions right now (would he even have a PS5 yet? I haven't heard anything about the press getting them).
I wonder how many console gamers actually own TVs that support 120hz. I got an LG B7 a couple of years ago and don't plan to upgrade for a while as it looks amazing and I sincerely doubt 120hz in console games is going to be widely adopted if the sacrifices are too great. We'll see how things pan out though.
120FPS will die when cross gen games die.
Halo Infinite is 120FPS because its cross gen.
Once actual games built for the new CPU/GPU are made, get ready to see 30 and 60 fps games again.
Halo Infinite is 120FPS because its cross gen.
Once actual games built for the new CPU/GPU are made, get ready to see 30 and 60 fps games again.
a huge percentage of users do not have a decent tv also or a decent sound system so by that argument you could take off next gent advances very fast.
4k tv's were also niche when the PS4 and X1 came out, yet they received mid gen refreshes specifically for 4k.
Lots of non budget new tv's support 120hz. It was a "niche within a niche" back in 2016-7 but not anymore. It's not exactly a rarity.
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120fps is amazing folks, really cool the next gen consoles support HDMI 2.1
When Jeff gets a PS5 I'm sure he'll talk about PS5.
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#allconsolesmatter huh?
When Jeff gets a PS5 I'm sure he'll talk about PS5.
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These prices are making these TVs niche. Sorry man, it's a niche and will stay that way for a while.4k tv's were also niche when the PS4 and X1 came out, yet they received mid gen refreshes specifically for 4k.
Lots of non budget new tv's support 120hz. It was a "niche within a niche" back in 2016-7 but not anymore. It's not exactly a rarity.
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It's going to be a standard feature pretty much from this year on in a lot of newer TV's.
Your main reason for shitting is him taking about Xbox is likely because nobody in western press has a PS5 or if they do they are not allowed to talk about it yet. So stop shitting up the place dude
I mean...it is good it is supported...but if you dial down stuff enough of course you can get 120 fps...I mean I can probably get 120fps on PC for pretty much every game if I am happy with it looking fairly weak visually. Still, it is good to have choices.
4k tv's were also niche when the PS4 and X1 came out, yet they received mid gen refreshes specifically for 4k.
Lots of non budget new tv's support 120hz. It was a "niche within a niche" back in 2016-7 but not anymore. It's not exactly a rarity.
The best 4K TVs for HDR gaming 2023 on PS5, Xbox Series X and PC
Digital Foundry's recommendations for the best 4K HDR TVs for gaming on PS5, Xbox Series X and PC, from cheap TVs to premium OLED and QLED models.
Doubt we can get hard data on this but I also believe that 120fps TV aren't common "enough".
Moreover TV manufacturers aren't pushing "120fps" like they pushed 4K a few years ago.
That's the huge difference between your 2013 to 2016 (mid gen) scenario.
Gameplay feels better on 120fps modes even without the 120Hz TV or monitor (and majority from my friends have LG 9 or X series OLED for console gaming).
...headphones are a lot more common that 120hz TVs, you don't need a nice sound system.
Also 4K TVs have been the standard for anyone getting a new TV over the past few years. 120hz TVs are brand new. Times are rough. People may not be rushing out to buy expensive new TVs this year. It's going to take a bit.
If you watch the video it's not about the XBox Series X vs the PS5, it's largely about why next gen consoles are exciting, but obviously he only has an XBSX so that's the lens to view things through.
The point he's making is basically that consoles make high framerate gaming easier and more enjoyable than it might be on PC's, regardless of compromises, because it's almost plug & play. I can agree to this, PC gaming is often infuriatingly difficult to tweak when you want to hit a framerate target and that's why we see huge performance threads and suggested settings / optimized settings videos from the community or places like DF.
It's the age old debate of absolute control (PC) vs ease of use (Console).
As a random aside I reckon high framerate support is a real boon for indies developing on next gen consoles, games made in the space I occupy often have aesthetics that are designed with our limitations in mind but scaling up framerate is a nice bonus. If I had the time/resources to make a sequel to my last action heavy game I would almost surely target 120fps on consoles, fast paced games play and look so much better at high framerates.
For me personally, as someone who bought his first 4K TV in 2018, I would not upgrade just for 120Hz, even if those are in my price range. I will be waiting until OLEDs get within my price range before I upgrade.4k tv's were also niche when the PS4 and X1 came out, yet they received mid gen refreshes specifically for 4k.
Lots of non budget new tv's support 120hz. It was a "niche within a niche" back in 2016-7 but not anymore. It's not exactly a rarity.
The best 4K TVs for HDR gaming 2023 on PS5, Xbox Series X and PC
Digital Foundry's recommendations for the best 4K HDR TVs for gaming on PS5, Xbox Series X and PC, from cheap TVs to premium OLED and QLED models.
That's my point, nobody got a PS5 still, or at least they're under NDA, so he's just highlighting what he got.
Yeah I have a 144hz gsync monitor and high framerate gaming with gsync/freesync is a real treat. Glad we're going to see this in consoles.