History says otherwise. Revolutions have existed longer than the internet, and are happening now outside Europe and the Anglosphere.
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Jeff Bezos, richest man in the world, criticized for Amazon donating only $690,000 to help Australia
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There have been decades of modern events which should have lead to some revolution against the billionaires and nothing. Where are these champions of the oppressed?
Not in modern history, they get crushed. Exactly, "outside Europe and the Anglosphere."
Guess you should tell the people in Chile that are currently being sprayed with burning chemicals that they should settle down cause its just a movie.
There have been plenty of successful revolutions in modern hisotry. Anyway, you said "it never happens". Whether or not they're successful, they happened.
Should have showed Bezos this heartbreaking video, maybe he'd have donated more:
(the woman is Rae Harvey, she runs the Wild 2 Free sanctuary in Australia, the fire devastated the sanctuary and killed at least 60 of the kangaroos there).
they also have a gofundme page:
(the woman is Rae Harvey, she runs the Wild 2 Free sanctuary in Australia, the fire devastated the sanctuary and killed at least 60 of the kangaroos there).
they also have a gofundme page:
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Let's suppose you're correct. Like Fukuyama said, it's the end of history right? Why are there so many clamoring for revolution now? Why is there a self proclaimed Socialist winning in Iowa and 2nd place nationally in a democratic primary? Tides are turning my friend, faster than I think anyone expected them to. There are decades where nothing happens and there are weeks where decades happen. What side of that statement do you think we're closer too?
Revolutions also don't exist in a binary of "the proletariat arm themselves and dismantle the ruling class, or they get all killed." Look at Black Lives Matter. Thanks in large part to their direct action and protesting, they have given platform and visibility to the corruption and racism of American police in a way that has completely changed the dialogue regarding the police state. I definitely wasn't seeing people casually comment "ACAB" on the internet 10 years ago. Changing the discourse is an important first step to getting groups of people to organize.
Why are some people in here defending Jeff Bezos? Eat the damn rich, this guy has too much goddamn wealth and does not even put it to good use.
Why not donate 50 million? 100 million? It would not make a dent either.
One sum of money he won't notice gone vs another and he chose the smallest possible amount. Nice.
Why not donate 50 million? 100 million? It would not make a dent either.
One sum of money he won't notice gone vs another and he chose the smallest possible amount. Nice.
Not in America they haven't.
The people in Chile aren't doing that because they dislike billionaires like Bezos and they're not in America, they have disputes with the government. Nobody in America is doing a revolution like that.
You want Bezos overthrown not though legal avenues like BLM is doing - that's what you were arguing against originally.
History, even in the last 100 years would beg to differ. Massively. People's point of reference is just beyond screwed up. Are things optimal? Absolutely not. I'd say for me they aren't even that great. But as a point in reference in history. I live in a pretty amazing time and place. The fact I can sit here and talk to you, in a warm house, on a cell phone, on the internet because a billionaire didn't give more money about existential issues speaks pretty loudly to that.
Did you miss Jeremy Corbyn and Bernie Sanders appear on the scene? These aren't coincidences. France is in the 5th or 6th week of a general strike. India just had 20% of its population go on strike for 24 hours. A school student inspired a world wide protest against government inaction on climate change. Chile has been protesting against the governments neoliberal policies for 3 months. Iraq has had an ongoing protest against government corruption for 3 months. 500 people have died but they're still going. Lebanon has been protesting against corruption, inequality, and sectarian rule for 3 months again.
Are these isolated incidents?
The American revolution happened in what's considered modern history. There was also the failed revolution in the form of the American civil war.
Human beings have never been in a more precarious place in recorded history.
Nuclear proliferation.
Climate Change.
The greatest inequality the world has known.
The rise and normalisation of facism.
And you think things are amazing because you can post on an Internet forum.
BTW
The last 100 years has seen 2 world wars the holocaust and I dont know how many genocides.
Bernie and Corbyn are politicians in political parties, they're not leading revolutions in the streets. Strikes aren't revolutions and those nations aren't in either of those two politicians countries. That's common in France, not in America or the UK. She's not leading a violent revolution for climate change that's right wing propaganda. Chile isn't overthrowing their billionaire class, they're fighting against an oppressive government. Protests aren't violent revolutions. None of them are actual violent revolutions which lead to the masses violently taking the wealth from the billionaire class. None of them pose a threat personally to Bezos' wealth.
Modern history as in within 20 years ago. The left "revolution" had the opportunity for the longest government shut down in history during Donald Trump's tenure in the White House and did absolutely nothing.
It's weird that you're stuck in this mindset where you seem to think revolutions must always be violent. Revolutions are often broad social movements, like the ones we are beginning to see now. The actions involved in such revolutions do include strikes and protests.
Bernie literally talks about the new left movement being a political revolution all the time.
You really do give away your lack of understanding with these kinds of posts.
Socdems are far-left and now modern history is within the last 20 years. Huh. I guess that makes 1960-1980 Ancient history? I'm learning new things every day!
I don't see the problem here. At least he donated something to help. It doesn't matter how much he earns, it's still a huge sum. Most people donated exactly 0, so why would you complain? Better complain about people who earn decent money and still didn't think about donating even a few dollars.
Revolutions don't have to be violent but they're not doing that in the US, either. So far those "revolutions" aren't putting the billionaire class in any danger, legally or illegally. They have a looongg path ahead to start to scratch that surface. They aren't just strikes or protests, somehow the powerful must be replaced and that's not happening to the billionaire class. We don't get those type of strikes or protests in the US, either.
All he does is talk, because he's a politician not a revolution leader. That's a brand Bernie sells, had he been serious about this he's very incompetent at organising that "revolution." Politicians can be revolutionary leaders, but Bernie isn't one of them.
I'm not misunderstanding anything.
You think the last 20 years isn't modern history lol Those SocDems are a failure (twice) and someone who needs a miracle to get the Democratic nomination, he's not Bane from Dark Knight Rises.
For a class who are in no danger, they certainly seem to be scared of Sanders and Warren.
Being scared isn't the same as being in danger. There isn't an army outside their doorsteps taking their stuff. Countries like Hong Kong, France and Chile have some sense of revolution happening, notice how that isn't occurring in the US? Or to any billionaires?
LOL Keep telling yourself that. You've had 200 years and everyone's waiting for this to materialise because nobody's building it.
The left is building it, right now. Revolution is already happening on the political front.
Except Bernie and AOC....they're building it.
Unless they don't count for some reason, which I'm certain you will enlighten me.
They're not building a violent revolution, however. They're trying to do this though legal means. This is hardly the American Civil War.
Because that's a common theme many on the left shape the narrative of revolutions they want to look like.
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No one else defines modern history that way. You're just redefining your position when confronted with evidence, even though you haven't provided any of your own.
I've provided plenty when it relates to the US. Someone argued 20 years ago isn't modern history to discount my argument. There are no crippling strikes or protests to billionaires in the US or opposition in the streets like in Chile or France.
Most people on the left only speak of violent revolutions in reference to self defence.
I've been posting a lot of Thought Slime, but he's a cool guy and very informative.
No I didn't. Try reading it again. You believe modern history is history within the last 20 years.
I'm beginning to think you have no idea what you're talking about. There's a difference between guillotine memes and the actual goals of the left.
yeah, very weird takes.
dude has a thing against leftism.
i wouldnt say all that. looks like standard fare liberalism.
That's because 20 years ago isn't nearly the full extent of modern history. The world includes more than the US. You can't say revolutions never happen, and dismiss everywhere but the US.
Of course not, but if a revolution isn't anywhere near being made within that time frame what use is it to you? Do you want this to occur in your life time? I've gone in detail about that, too. The US is not France, Chile or Hong Kong.
When did this become solely about the US? To be clear, you're saying that because a revolution hasn't happened in the US in the last 20 years, it will never happen in the US?
You're disqualifying revolutions other's are bringing up because they weren't violent enough or against the law. But now you're saying that's not what we're talking about? It's not that I'm ignoring your argument, it's that I've lost track of your argument because you don't have one.
Amazon deploying bot accounts to spread the glory of Bezos.
