I most likely have donated more of my net worth to the world than Jeff has, considering he will most likely never have to actually spend 10b.
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Jeff Bezos commits $10 billion to fight climate change
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I most likely have donated more of my net worth to the world than Jeff has, considering he will most likely never have to actually spend 10b.
I got what you were saying. Its still conservative proproganda that you're willingly playing into. "The government doesn't know how to spend my money better than me". It doesn't matter who is the head of government. These funds should be gathered by taxes and publicly accountable, not dictated by private interests only be used to secure their own power.
This seriously should be mandatory viewing for this topic.
The part that kills me is that this isnt even a new or complex type of scam unless you're just looking at surface level only. Gangsters were known to do this heavy, sell the poison that destroys the neighborhood and come around doing "donation drives" during the holidays to seem like heroes of the block. Its just now you're seeing it on a global scale. smh.
Under our current administration? Fuck no.
They'll give it to less rich billionaires.
This is a start but I'll believe it when I see it. Also his AWS datacenters need to stop being subsidized by local residents and they need to be carbon neutral or negative.
Charity over paying taxes, the libertarian way...
This is a disingenuous argument. Bezos and Amazon should pay their taxes.
This is a disingenuous argument. Bezos and Amazon should pay their taxes.
Have you done anything to help the planet? I guess nothing.
Shitty people like you have to belittle every single actions taken to make the planet better, just to sound fake woke.
It doesn't have to cost an arm and leg to help/take actions. At a 100billion wealth, it is something to him, and it is SOMETHING for the NGOs and activists. His actions might also propel others to do the same.
He still have to pay his taxes and other stuffs, but this, this deserves credit.
I'm glad we have at least some people standing up for these poor misunderstood billionaires.
I've done this more than a few times, so I don't understand this line of thinking. also, spending 5€ from 100€ is harder on someone than a billionaire donating billions and still being a billionaire lol.
I mean that's great, but also this
And also, fuck you and treat (and pay) your employees better.
Good, keep making up up bogus numbers and assumptions to back your fake wokeness. How does he destroys the environment? By you buying shit from Amazon?
I give credit where credit is due. The way he runs his warehouse is shit, but what he did here will only help those in need of funding.
But I guess, you are the same as that person I I've quoted. Keep belittling every good act, then keep complaining how nobody does anything good. Fake woke hypocrisy.
Can't wait to find out the majority of this money will actually go toward some self serving bullshit that will help make bezos richer.
What's hypocritical is Bezos announcing this fund when he operates a business that's visibly inefficient to the consumers. His first goal should be to make Amazon sustainable.
Make it carbon neutral - get electric Prime vans, wind turbines on all their distribution centres, reduce deliveries, significantly reduce wasteful packaging etc. Then this fund won't come across as a self-serving act of self promotion.
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I'll believe it when I see it.
Also, lol at Era's resident billionaire bootlickers.
Also, lol at Era's resident billionaire bootlickers.
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Bumping this LA Times article for required reading about the complexities of billionaire philantropy:
People espousing libertarian personal responsibility Randian bullshit. It's insulting to anyone who wants to push for worker rights, for the environment and for an effective corporate tax on companies that take in billions/trillions of dollars from countries and don't invest it back into their local economies.
It is not 'woke' to ask for corporations to pay their fair share, nor to react to news like this from Bezos, who is obviously going for a PR win. Yeah it's cool he's giving 10 billion. So? I bet if I compared the effective wealth of all of ERA compared to what they've given in environmental and other charities it would be a bigger portion of their wealth. I don't hear PR firms gasping in orgasmic praise for us. And you know why? Because we don't fucking deserve it either. Spare me your drivel and perhaps use some of your obvious gigantic empathetic tendencies for people in places such as Australia.
Of course and it's probably not even liquid. Just 10 billion in stock that he still controls.
These things are ego boosts and loopholes for tax evasion. Bloomberg should give away 99% of his entire fortune to fight climate change, but he won't of course because he like most of the upper earners don't give a single solidarity shit about the world or people with less money than them.
are there veiled anti-Semitic conspiracy theories about Bezos here that idk about?
Nah. These thing are a tax avoidance scheme that makes use of loopholes. That figure isn't liquid not usable. Go educate yourself before spewing your randian garbage and calling others shitty.
Why is the right's criticism of Soros problematic? Well they engage in anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. They aren't criticizing him for being rich and not giving back. They're attacking him for being Jewish and that typical 'Cultural Marxist' type disingenuous nonsense. If you think these are any way equivalent to being angry at Bezos for being a rich selfish asshole, I really don't have much hope for you.
"If money go before, all ways do lie open."
Use that money to support a candidate who will force your friends and their companies to stop avoiding their fair share of taxes. That 10 bil could raise more, and in perpetuity, for the cause you claim is so important.
EDIT: What are the chances he did this so the billionaires running for president could point to it and say "see, you can trust us! No need to rock the boat!"
EDIT: What are the chances he did this so the billionaires running for president could point to it and say "see, you can trust us! No need to rock the boat!"
Didn't he also name a product lineup after one of the largest climate disasters this century? Getting mixed signals here...
I do more then that every weekend when going grocery shopping. Buying local and fair trade only cuts a bigger hole in my bank account then these 10bill do to Bezos account. We think in little man's terms. He's still a multi billionaire after this stunt. That's just wrong.
It is literally impossible for capitalism to save the planet because destroying the planet is the only way to keep capitalism alive
the culture of convenience propagated by these websites is a huge factor in the increasing amounts of carbon emissions. The literal button-click to buy hides the environmental costs of our current standard of living.
$10 billion probably doesn't even come close to offsetting the carbon footprint that his company alone causes, let alone all of the ones Amazon works with.
This is a drop of water in the ocean
On the principle, i agree.
But considering the country to wich he'd pay his taxes and who's in charge of said country (and is sadly very likely going to run it in the next mandate as well), you know full well that none of those taxes would go to fight climate change.
So... Yeah...
Idk about y'all but I love existing in a world where we can debate what impact one person's scant charity will have after they've exploited the labor of countless people and helped to cause immeasurable damage to the planet to amass said wealth they may or may not try to "help" with
Someones gotta try and undo the damage Bernie is going to cause!
Fuck this guy.
His philanthropy doesn't do anything to change the wealth inequality he benefits from, and we all cumulatively suffer from.
Great, he cares about the planet, but not the people on it.
Fuck this guy.
His philanthropy doesn't do anything to change the wealth inequality he benefits from, and we all cumulatively suffer from.
Great, he cares about the planet, but not the people on it.
Fuck this guy.
I see people bringing up about Amazon making multiple deliveries a lot and not sure if its the same for Amazon in the rest of the world but I imagine it is the same as in the UK. Each Amazon Fulfilment center only stocks a range of products, they don't all stock everything.
So when you place an order for say like 5 items your order could very well get shipped from 5 different FC's depending where the stock you order is stored. Nothing that can really be done about that as to stock every single item that is for sale at every single FC would be extremely inefficient and would require a huge amount of space. Items are stocked in FC's driven by demand so there is logic behind it to reduce multiple deliveries as much as possible but obviously you can't guess what every single person is going to order all of the time to ensure it is stocked all in one place.
Also as there is now a lot of 3rd party sellers sometimes they stock their products in Amazon FC's and sometimes they send directly so that is another reason you can get multiple deliveries.
So when you place an order for say like 5 items your order could very well get shipped from 5 different FC's depending where the stock you order is stored. Nothing that can really be done about that as to stock every single item that is for sale at every single FC would be extremely inefficient and would require a huge amount of space. Items are stocked in FC's driven by demand so there is logic behind it to reduce multiple deliveries as much as possible but obviously you can't guess what every single person is going to order all of the time to ensure it is stocked all in one place.
Also as there is now a lot of 3rd party sellers sometimes they stock their products in Amazon FC's and sometimes they send directly so that is another reason you can get multiple deliveries.
Amazon Web Services are used in the oil and gas industry. They've breathed new life into extraction technologies in fact.
This is true, as far as it goes. People just love pushing away blame to big names and CEOs because it's easier, and it absolves them from abusing a service that is completely optional.
Of course that doesn't excuse the predatory capitalism and mistreatment of workers, but it helps having a perspective over who exactly is destroying the environment.
They're already doing all of that?
Amazon vows to be carbon neutral by 2040, buying 100,000 electric vans
Amazon.com Inc <AMZN.O> Chief Executive Officer Jeff Bezos on Thursday pledged to make the largest U.S. e-commerce company net carbon neutral by 2040 and to buy 100,000 electric delivery vans from a start-up, as employees and consumers around the world plan protests to address...
www.reuters.com
I don't see this cynically, it's a great move. But given there is a survival wage, and most of us are a lot closer to that than "rich", it is disingenuous to suggest 5% of his wealth is anywhere close to as important to him as 5% of our own wealth is to us. Let some people escape the rent trap before lecturing them on 5% of their wealth.
Good start. Glad to see more of the planets billionaires putting their money to good use. However, it's really not going to do a lot in the grand scheme of things.
To really tackle climate change we must convince the public and the governments of the world to take action. I'm talking about some of the biggest nations who cause the most environmental damage such as USA, China etc. If we can't get the governments of the biggest nations on bored then we are doomed.
To really tackle climate change we must convince the public and the governments of the world to take action. I'm talking about some of the biggest nations who cause the most environmental damage such as USA, China etc. If we can't get the governments of the biggest nations on bored then we are doomed.
His net worth comes from owning amazon stock not a 100 bn bank account. He probably couldn't sell his stock for 100 bn even if he wanted to, and obviously he would lose control over the company if he did.
He absolutely needs the PR because that's how he justifies his wealth in an increasingly anti billionaire world. It shouldn't work, but it does.
And btw he is not donating the money, he is launching a fund.
If he cared anything about making a better world he would spend his money making sure the tax and regulatory loopholes he exploited to make his fortune are shut close, and if he really cared he could also spend some billions to help get money out of politics, strengthen unions and so on. 10 bn would probably be enough for that.
But he won't because he doesn't actually care, so instead he starts a fund where he can fuck around and rehabilitate his image from cynical exploitative tycoon to world savior Picard wannabe space business thinker and all he has to commit to is to spend a few paltry % of the fund per year.
Before Gates launched his fund and "pledged" his money he was seen as an evil motherfucker business shark. Now he is basically the tech pope.
I prefer greedy shitty billionaires that don't go around funding charities to these savior type billionaires like Buffet and Gates because in the long run the latter kind actually undermines public efforts and democracy to a far greater degree.
Anyone thinking Gates and Bezos will save the world or even have a net positive impact are living in a Dickens fairy tale.
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But you donating $100 and Jeff Donating $10,000,000,000 are two very different things
