Eh, this is their first game initiative, I'd give them more than 10 hours to get this right.
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Jason Schreier: Stadia looks to be a "monumental flop", pre-orders are below expectations
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They should partner with someone. Gaming will more than likely head this way after Digital Only. Nintendo or Sony whoever needs them more. If anyone has the tech or resources its google.
I think Stadia will be the best execution of game streaming technology. Too bad Google fucked up the launch with poor marketing and an unappealing pitch to consumers.
I actually just rent movies on vudu usually, 4-6 dollars for a 4k Dolby Vision stream that looks damn good with surprisingly acceptable 5.1 sound. In order to get that on Stadia, you have to pay a sub, and then it probably doesn't even look as good as 4k vudu, or sound as good, and it has input lag. Who the fuck buys $30 Movies on itunes and vudu anyway? Shit is on sale for $5-$10 there all the time, and you can watch brand new movies for cheap, as opposed to paying 60 dollars for a middling stream of a Tomb Raider game that came out 2 years ago.
You don't have to pay a sub for stadia either. That's just for stadia pro.
Yeah, their launch has been a clusterfuck. there is nothing wrong with the technology and it does work, but the lack of promised features and even basic integration is staggering.
It was the negative trending reviews on Twitter that told me lol
Where's the gif with the coffin falling on the floor?
Right, only Stadia pro is available right now, with no release date for the "free" version, which also is only 1080p and only stereo sound. Also these services let you download films and store them locally, so.....what?
Well for the full experience and 4K you do, it would be like having to pay an iTunes sub to get access to download their 4K HDR library and the free iTunes would be 1080p.
I just don't think the average household internet setup is ever going to realise a smooth gaming experience on Stadia.
I mean imagine you're in a really intense gaming moment only to suffer stuttering or even an outage.
Sorry but fuck that. That shit could damage first time experiences of fantastic games. It would be like getting thrown out of the cinema during the peak of a film premiere.
I have a higher regard for gaming experiences than to rely on a server 1000s of miles away from my couch.
I mean imagine you're in a really intense gaming moment only to suffer stuttering or even an outage.
Sorry but fuck that. That shit could damage first time experiences of fantastic games. It would be like getting thrown out of the cinema during the peak of a film premiere.
I have a higher regard for gaming experiences than to rely on a server 1000s of miles away from my couch.
I guess I shouldn't be shocked by a company that all but abandoned their fiber internet plans (at least throwing existing build-outs a bone and keeping service on for now), has once again dropped the ball initially on a service highly dependent on seemingly near perfect internet infrastructure.
If they switch their model to a subscription service ala Netflix then I'm sure there would be more appeal.
I was going to write a post myself, but honestly, you nailed exactly what I was trying to convey.
I was a big fan of OnLive in its heyday for a couple reasons. 1 - living in Los Angeles I never had an issue with the streaming itself. But what people probably don't know is that OnLive subsidized game purchases like crazy. I got Deus Ex Human Revolution like 2 months after it released for one dollar on one of their crazy promotions they liked to do. They really needed to push promotions like that to get people to go out of their way to try out the service.
Google is really going to need to open up the pocketbooks and take a hard look at their game pricing.
Google is really going to need to open up the pocketbooks and take a hard look at their game pricing.
It obviously needs to be far more aggressively priced or just have a completely different model.
Seems like Google is just being stubborn because fucking everyone has been saying this. Especially since this whole service has a high chance of not being around at all in the near future why the hell would you pay full price for a game on it?
Even if only for a year or two, they needed it to be undeniable pricing. The idea that to play in 4K you're paying for a sub and full price is just ridiculous.
Seems like Google is just being stubborn because fucking everyone has been saying this. Especially since this whole service has a high chance of not being around at all in the near future why the hell would you pay full price for a game on it?
Even if only for a year or two, they needed it to be undeniable pricing. The idea that to play in 4K you're paying for a sub and full price is just ridiculous.
I'd rather pay 60€ for a game that have it on Stadia for free.
I'm buying RDR2 on Steam on December. If Google literally sent me today an email saying that they're giving me RDR2 for free on Stadia I'd just ignore it and buy it on Steam anyway. And this is coming from someone with a fiber 300 Mbps download AND upload connection.
Some people are against the very concept of streaming games.
Also, call me when I can stream games at high framerates on my 240 Hz monitor. Actually don't because I'd still ignore it but yeah in its current state it stands -1 chances of appealing to me instead of 0.
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/r/stadia is in shambles. Those people are the ones that ordered early and believed in the product and it's a complete mess. People not getting their product, people not getting their code, people unable to choose their SN early as promised, great job Google.
It'd be interesting if someone could show Stadia gameplay and have an on-screen meter showing the bandwidth being consumed to deliver that data.
How much is being downloaded if I play 2 hours at 4K60?
How much is being downloaded if I play 2 hours at 4K60?
I think the flood gates just opened and a lot of people are now getting their codes, finally. Some people are reporting to have a great experience so far in the Stadia OT. At least something good in the midst of this asinine handled launch.
Now Google will hopefully listen and go with a netflix/gamepass like model now. It's literally their only chance for this thing to even have a chance to succeed at this point.
I think Digital Foundry mentioned it was 20GB an hour.
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For my money, the founder's edition only exists to fulfil they promise of Stadia launching this year.
The real launch isn't until the free version is available and works on virtually every Android device.
The business model makes sense if you don't have to pay anything up front.
The idea of casual players seeing an advert in a browser and then able to start playing is a powerful image.
In it's current state, Stadia doesn't deliver this.
I'm not sure what their expectations were but having to buy anything is a barrier to what Stadia is supposed to provide.
So it can't be a flop until it launches properly at some point in 2020.
I think Digital Foundry mentioned it was 20GB an hour.
Stadia tech review: the best game streaming yet, but far from ready
Can Stadia tech out-muscle Xbox One X? How good is the streaming quality and what about the lag?
For my money, the founder's edition only exists to fulfil they promise of Stadia launching this year.
The real launch isn't until the free version is available and works on virtually every Android device.
The business model makes sense if you don't have to pay anything up front.
The idea of casual players seeing an advert in a browser and then able to start playing is a powerful image.
In it's current state, Stadia doesn't deliver this.
I'm not sure what they're expectations were but having to buy anything is a barrier to what Stadia is supposed to provide.
So it can't be a flop until it launches properly at some point in 2020.
20GB/hour is ridiculously expensive. That's 2TB of data if you play 100 hours of RDR2.
It's still a lot of data - regardless of cap. Doesn't that take a toll on storage as well, even if it is just temporary cache?
The problem is they have no announced date for the "free" version, no announced date for ANY of their big features they were touting, games performing significantly worse in settings/res/framerate than they said. It's a flop now, this is the launch, the word of mouth on it is terrible, they have no audience anymore. Stadia is fucked.I think Digital Foundry mentioned it was 20GB an hour.
Stadia tech review: the best game streaming yet, but far from ready
Can Stadia tech out-muscle Xbox One X? How good is the streaming quality and what about the lag?
For my money, the founder's edition only exists to fulfil they promise of Stadia launching this year.
The real launch isn't until the free version is available and works on virtually every Android device.
The business model makes sense if you don't have to pay anything up front.
The idea of casual players seeing an advert in a browser and then able to start playing is a powerful image.
In it's current state, Stadia doesn't deliver this.
I'm not sure what their expectations were but having to buy anything is a barrier to what Stadia is supposed to provide.
So it can't be a flop until it launches properly at some point in 2020.
People were saying shit like "once stadia has all the games steam has it will really take off sometime next year" and now those goal posts have been moved to " well it's cheaper than a console and the real launch is a year from now"
It runs Destiny 2 at 1080p on medium settings even on the "4k" subscription. My 5 year old PC does better than that. This thing has a stink on it that is not gonna be washed off by some weird subgroup of people who can't afford $200 consoles but pay $100 a month for fast internet and want to play a 2 year old Tomb Raider game on their phone for $60 with a controller plugged into it.
It´s fascinating how many failed consoles, or whatever this is, I lived through. Off to the Google graveyard you go.
It was for a special chromecast that plays stadia (regular chrome cast won't work, but it will eventually, sometime, date unannounced) and access to stadia. You cant just buy stadia games and try it unless you pay them $130 for a chromecast and a controller. Not that you'd want to, unless you're interested in worse versions of old console games with +50ms additional input lag. Even then it only works on pixel phones right now, and chrome desktop browsers, and chromecast (only their special chrom cast)
20gb an hour? I'm so glad I cancelled. I knew the game pricing was going to be fuckery when they wouldn't tell anyone what shit would cost less than a week before launch, but this is absurd.I think Digital Foundry mentioned it was 20GB an hour.
Stadia tech review: the best game streaming yet, but far from ready
Can Stadia tech out-muscle Xbox One X? How good is the streaming quality and what about the lag?
For my money, the founder's edition only exists to fulfil they promise of Stadia launching this year.
The real launch isn't until the free version is available and works on virtually every Android device.
The business model makes sense if you don't have to pay anything up front.
The idea of casual players seeing an advert in a browser and then able to start playing is a powerful image.
In it's current state, Stadia doesn't deliver this.
I'm not sure what their expectations were but having to buy anything is a barrier to what Stadia is supposed to provide.
So it can't be a flop until it launches properly at some point in 2020.
It's not that it seems shitty. It is shitty and false advertisement.
They really should have pushed back the release date to next year
Challenge.
Launching a new product, especially one at this scale and with a prestigious company like Google is the kind of thing that gets execs at Jade & Phil's career stage excited for their work.
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literally the image that came to mind 🤔
I take no joy from anyone's failures, not even google, because invariably some hard working people are affected (as a division within the company, it's their entire job to make this project work, after all). Rather I'm just...surprised how this has evolved and progressed despite the realities of internet services and accessibility in this country.
