Good point I forgot about that as I have a Mac so don't get the benefits of either service on it
True! It's still frustrating as someone who stands in the "neutral ground" of PC. And having everything I want in a single service is of course the ideal. I want to pay as little as possible while getting as much as possible, dammit! Dumb Sony getting in the way, hmph.
Apologies, I corrected my post with an edit to clarify that I may have misunderstood your point on games leaving. I had been under the assumption that you were talking about Game Pass first party titles disappearing, my bad!
No apologies needed thanks for being civil
Yeah, owning a Switch just for the 1-2 exclusives every 1-2 years I'm really interested in is annoying. Playing them at crazy resolutions and framerates thanks to emulation does ease the pain a bit though! Of course I'd prefer they be there natively, but I know that isn't going to happen. With Sony inching into the PC space at least there's the potential for a really good service that supports PC from them. Here's hoping.
This comment is under appreciated and I did get a chuckle.
My hot take is that by the time PS6 releases Sony's PC support will be extremely similar to MS. The only thing that may be different is that I don't think they will have an equivalent to Play Anywhere (both in terms of only one purchase necessary nor in the ability to hop back and forth between PC and console with the same save state. For the latter see the nonsense with PS4 to PS5 games saves)
The service, or just day and date releases on the service.
When your competition is gobbling up huge IP and keeping it exclusive to their ecosystem, then as a company, you need to be doing the same or coming up with huge IP as a counter move. Paying a large fee for timed subscription service exclusivity is dumb after you have paid for timed exclusivity. Sony could easily be spending $100 million, and at that point, why not just make your own game?
It has nothing to do with value but more to do with the fact that Nintendo does not want to set a precedent where people wait for price drops to get their games. It is not new in the world of retail either.
I mean maybe but they clearly already made some small deal to keep RE8 OFF game pass so i imagine deals for say Yakuza, Dragon Quest, RE, Final Fantasy back catalogs to not go to game pass and only go to PS Pass really wouldn't cost as much as a whole new game. They aren't necessarily paying this to get RE9 day 1, or even RE8 long after release, but RE1-7. That's what I Imagine, smaller deals.
Isn't that what Netflix, HBO, Amazon do? They buy the rights to stream stuff like Seinfeld but they still air on cable tv.
ps3 exclusives will be the new saturn exclusives that lost their source code
Only around half of Xbox users are on Game Pass, which blows the doors off PSNow, and while it might seem ridiculous for Sony to be limited to half their users for a GP competitor service, it isn't, because the upper level of numbers is really goddamned high in comparison to console-or-PC-only players. Sony doesn't have business, practical, or logistical systems in place to support any of that growth.
I was dealing with the numbers you gave. Even then, I think it is a huge waste of money paying subscription exclusivity on games. You are better making your own game or commissioning one.
To who?
We'll, in my mind it's Nintendo's value (as a whole) that allows them "to just be Nintendo". But I honestly can't say if there's a right or wrong here (not that my opinion matters) in y'all's conversation. But it's good to see the different perspectives.
Pretty much. I stopped the back and forth and I am now in wait and see mode. I just hope the classics aren't streaming and can be played natively on our consoles because this is a huge sticking point for me. We will see next year.
I know it's obvious why some are saying it's gonna be streaming, & Sony us just gonna be using thier ps now service. But here's the caveat to why that is most likely not the case: ps now doesn't have ps1 or psp games on its service to stream, it's only ps2 & up. That right there tells me it's gonna be a completely different system than psnow & it is most likely Gonna be emulation rather than streaming. I don't even know how you would even stream ps1 or psp games tbh.
Limited competition is a complete non-argument. Despite being half it's age the Switch already has more total games released than Xbox One.
That is the point I am making, Nintendo like any other party decides to set the price high and have it remain high regardless of whether sales have slowed or not choosing to not drop price to try and stimulate demand.
Maybe I went with the wrong choice of words. Nintendo titles do not face the same competition from huge games that Sony and Microsoft games go up against in the third party space. Nintendo is the main game in town.
Which is what I said. It has nothing to do with perceived value as we are being told. I have followed enough retail businesses to know that that propaganda is just that.
Some people can't read or be bother to read the article and it shows.
Because once people saw that it didn't have day one games like GamePass, reading comprehension shut off.
No day 1 releases. Not talking for the AAA games, would be too much to ask and they deserve to be bought, but if they wont even release some of their indies day 1 like Xbox does, then that's a catch for me.
Whats the catch? They are just consolidating their split subscription model and improving their offering.
The article doesnt say "no day 1 release ever", all that jason said is their big FP games wont be day one. The title of the thread might be a bit misleading in that regard. Sony had already offered multiple day one indie titles on their services and even their own first party (Destruction Allstars), but God of War Ragnarok wont launch on "PlayStation Plus Diamond" or whatever sort of marketing name they give it.
He means subscription. PS Now has been available for longer than Game Pass an it had something like 3.2 million subscribers.
Lacking generosity? You know Gearbox is the one who made Godfall right? Not PlayStation?
Don't rush. I was referring to ps+ titles with the lack of generosity because most months have been weak and that is a fact.
No, I knew what you were referring to and no, it's not a fact. That's just your personal opinion.
Is it possible that the games they released with PS+ just might not have been to your liking this year? Looking back at the whole list for 2021, and it is hard to say they have been lacking in generosity.
