Since you can't jump in that podcast I didn't listen to it but thank you for the information.
Missing context was my assumption anyway.
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Jason Schreier: Playstation 5 more superior piece of Hardware in a lot of different ways despite of what you see in Spec Sheets
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Since you can't jump in that podcast I didn't listen to it but thank you for the information.
Missing context was my assumption anyway.
The SSD's speed and 100-fold improvement in in-game asset streaming are actual measurable quantities. Same with the rasterisation and other benefits (per core) of the 2,230 GHz frequency over the 1825 GHz one. These are not vague quantities or at least they are as vague as a TF number.
Dictator is hardly biased. If anything based on my following of DF, he's way more into PC.
Oh I know why people come to these conclusions and I am on the fence myself. I'm just trying to keep an open mind. It's very possible that Cerny approach is further away from the conventional small form factor pc so it makes it harder to compare. His talk about what he did to the AMD GPU cores to make the tempest engine kinda gives me hope that this is the case and things are more custom then the previous gen. The entire sad configuration also makes the pc comparison even further away if you ask me. Granted I dont really know what I am talking about lol.
Lol at anyone insinuating that Schreier is some Sony shill. Jesus, Sony hasn't even unveiled the console properly and we've already got some full on meltdowns, people really need to cool off from this console war BS. This isn't Gamefaqs.
Oh boi, this is my first next-gen console war and it's truly a sight of what it does to some people.
Personally, last night my feeling was that Xbox had the clear advantage, but now I'm waiting for the first official next-gen only footage before drawing my own conclusion* (AKA, the coward take LMAO). I must say though that from the point of view of someone as uneducated as myself when it comes to the possibilities of the SSDs when it comes to the worlds and its influence on performance, the Xbox is looking like the better machine. I'm no dev or tech journo/enthusiast. This is the feeling I'm getting and that, by the looks of it, most of the people are getting, "secret sauces" - as they say - still to be seen. And also that one console could very well be fairly more expensive than the other one... or the other one being fairly cheaper... or not... whatever. Still too much for a gaming console, IMO.
Lastly, I've been seeing many posts already about how "Sony's going to show GOW, Horizon, Uncharted, Gran Turismo etc and that's it". Heck, I believe Microsoft even signed up several of the people that made those Sony games in the first place. It seems to me like an idiotic console war argument that makes it seem like if Xbox dedicated themselves to making popcorn LMAO I didn't want to get into Off-topic, but I've seen this kind of post several times now. Sony is clearly going in with an advantage for the upcoming generation based on the reception of the current one and stupid decisions from MS like making Live required for playing F2P online games... or at least that's my understanding, as I don't own an Xbox. That's the kind of shitty practices they should get rid off.
*With all due respect, the Epic Games title showed at TGA is not an indication of next-gen games... or so I'd hope...
Personally, last night my feeling was that Xbox had the clear advantage, but now I'm waiting for the first official next-gen only footage before drawing my own conclusion* (AKA, the coward take LMAO). I must say though that from the point of view of someone as uneducated as myself when it comes to the possibilities of the SSDs when it comes to the worlds and its influence on performance, the Xbox is looking like the better machine. I'm no dev or tech journo/enthusiast. This is the feeling I'm getting and that, by the looks of it, most of the people are getting, "secret sauces" - as they say - still to be seen. And also that one console could very well be fairly more expensive than the other one... or the other one being fairly cheaper... or not... whatever. Still too much for a gaming console, IMO.
Lastly, I've been seeing many posts already about how "Sony's going to show GOW, Horizon, Uncharted, Gran Turismo etc and that's it". Heck, I believe Microsoft even signed up several of the people that made those Sony games in the first place. It seems to me like an idiotic console war argument that makes it seem like if Xbox dedicated themselves to making popcorn LMAO I didn't want to get into Off-topic, but I've seen this kind of post several times now. Sony is clearly going in with an advantage for the upcoming generation based on the reception of the current one and stupid decisions from MS like making Live required for playing F2P online games... or at least that's my understanding, as I don't own an Xbox. That's the kind of shitty practices they should get rid off.
*With all due respect, the Epic Games title showed at TGA is not an indication of next-gen games... or so I'd hope...
Does it even matter? The consoles look like a wash in terms of specs, even more so than current gen. Most people here don't even understand what they're looking at when it comes to these specs.
XSX doesn't do the same thing, unless they've withheld this particular little piece of specs for some reason.
Which is the right side though? Are we talking about power? Sales? What? Last gen was easy to figure out, one was more powerful, cheaper and had better first party production. Microsoft is more powerful this time obviously, price will be either the same or close and first party I still give to Sony (Based on prior games) since we really haven't seen anything from Microsoft new acquisitions yet.
And after the XSX spec reveal, a large portion of contributors in those threads claimed Github was FOS, that Sony would never settle for less than 12TFs and be beaten in power.
Post PS5 spec release, TFs don't indicate performance and can actually be completely dismissed due to SSD I/O speeds. It's like we're suddenly going to re-invent hardware development across all devices due to an SSD application methodology. Are we sure we even need GPUs anymore? Will we just start loading assets directly from the SSD into the game? Apparently so.
This new narrative that this is 2013 reversed is one of the funniest i've seen in this forum which says a lot.
Base Xbox One is one of the worst hardware ever created because MS wanted to sell TV Show based games , Kinect and was interested in NFL or NBA deals.
Superior except for in CPU and GPU which have always been the most important factors in the tech specs of a machine, but all the sudden aren't. Sony's studios will always make use of this hardware and make amazing games, but everything else will look and perform better on XSX even if the load times are a few seconds longer. I'll eat crows if that isn't true.
Console wars really are terrible.
Console wars really are terrible.
Nah, it can be worse than Gamefaqs at times, I mean at least Gamefaqs has faqs.
Wasn't this exactly what a lot of other developers have been saying?
Both consoles are going to perform beyond every expectation. Let's see the actual games.
Both consoles are going to perform beyond every expectation. Let's see the actual games.
Ok, I can see bias. You don't have to see the same. I never said something for the other two-three guys.
Listening to the podcast right now, he's not saying it's a superior console to the Series X in graphical ability, but that it's a very powerful machine that does a lot of really cool things that aren't being communicated well and that's the scuttlebutt he gets from developers.
He literally released a take down of the crunch and management practices of Sony's prestige first party studio less than a week ago and now he's a Sony shill. People are stupid.
The whole OP lacks a lot of content and cherrypicked one line out of over one hour of podcast lol
Well every console ever has better 'parts' than others but at the end of the day 99% of multiplats will come down to better framerate and resolution vs faster load times. That's it.. There is no way to sugarcoat it.
Only Sony will create games around the SSD and IO advantage.
Only Sony will create games around the SSD and IO advantage.
The IO is superior and that's clear from the spec sheet as well. Teraflops differences aren't overwhelmingly huge and the real show-cases will be more of a deciding factor. Xbox games will be cross-gen on the first party side, the best this gen seems to offer on xbox is Gears and its aestetics don't interest me.
A next gen spider man or Horizon will look amazing and rumours of securing Konami IPs for first party treatment speak more to what i like to see. Making good games will be possible on either console and third parties who will be multiplat will maybe differ in loading time, which from what i gather will be faster to non-existent on PS5. We'll see the side-by side of those games eventually.
A next gen spider man or Horizon will look amazing and rumours of securing Konami IPs for first party treatment speak more to what i like to see. Making good games will be possible on either console and third parties who will be multiplat will maybe differ in loading time, which from what i gather will be faster to non-existent on PS5. We'll see the side-by side of those games eventually.
Is this basically like "well it's my opinion and since it's an opinion it can't be wrong" type stuff? Come on now.
Could you provide a source for this? Both have a dedicated audio hardware block.
They both use their own software. It's literally impossible to say which software does a better job today, although XSX at least is confirmed to support multiple ones already. Sony maybe doesn't want to pay the licensing fees so they are creating their own spatial audio solution.
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Just going with assumption how much Sony and Devs themself are praising PS5 audio.
And like i said it remains to be seen how big difference is.
That is a possibility. Journalists can be fanboys as well. I can def point to some Xbox ones.
There is a reason why people say words like "feels". No one is confirming such information. It is not wishful thinking from me. I am telling you with facts. Sony messaging with PS5 has been GARBAGE! Can that change? Maybe? When that (if) does then we can further this conversation.
Ok then you are right and I am wrong.
Don't ban me, please.
yeah Jason is not a console warrior. His information might incorrect but I don't think he has any reason to push a false narrative. I don't mind people questioning the conclusion of Jason's sources, but people questioning Jason himself need to gtfo
Shhhh, don't say that, better cherry pick one line and make a sensational thread title for clicks.
That's not my point - of course journalists can be biased. The point is that if Jason was a massive Sony fanboy he'd probably not be exposing damaging information about Sony's most important development studio.
Thanks for the link; I'm super curious to hear and see more over time for sure. Buying both machines so I like that they are pretty close, have mixed feelings about their uniqueness as I worry about how 3rd party devs will handle that.
I also think it might be early for devs to declare much either way; I would add an "in my experience so far" to any statement about performance considering how drivers / SDKs are likely in beta still.
Woke up and see the console warring hasn't really begun to die down yet. A lot of embarrassing comments in this thread and I'm sure many more to come. The people questioning Jasons credibility are the worst just because he's passing along info that may clash in some way, shape or form with their warrior mentality.
Just kick back, relax and wait to see what both consoles are actually capable of and what games they'll have. That's the most important thing here.
Just kick back, relax and wait to see what both consoles are actually capable of and what games they'll have. That's the most important thing here.
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