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Jason Schreier: Playstation 5 more superior piece of Hardware in a lot of different ways despite of what you see in Spec Sheets
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Both look like great machines.
With that said, expecting any multiplat game to look better on PS5 than on XsX is exactly the same as expecting that a XO game looked better than a PS4 one in the last few years.
Of course the differences are going to be small and hard to appreciate (diminishing returns and such) but they will be there. I have no problem with that, since I have a PS4 and knowing that games look better in PS4pro and XOX I don't give a tiny rat's ass :D
With that said, expecting any multiplat game to look better on PS5 than on XsX is exactly the same as expecting that a XO game looked better than a PS4 one in the last few years.
Of course the differences are going to be small and hard to appreciate (diminishing returns and such) but they will be there. I have no problem with that, since I have a PS4 and knowing that games look better in PS4pro and XOX I don't give a tiny rat's ass :D
If the the threshold I/O speed needed to offer innovative/forward thinking designs is Y, then your statement is only true if XsX < Y < PS5. If instead it's Y < XsX < PS5, then it's meaningless beyond loading times. But because we don't know the I/O bandwidth needed to facilitate new experience Z, all these arguments are meaningless.
Maybes he's right maybe he's wrong, I do wish he didn't say it though at least without an article to explain, he threw gas on an unnecessary fire. Jason is very well respected and has been for years though so if he said it he heard it this isn't him being a fanboy. We'll see what happens.
Really now? Having a slightly less powerful console is nowhere near the mess that MS was in 2013 when they had the considerably less powerful, more expensive, tv-focused and 24-hour authentication bullshit.
I wasn't comparing the two, although you really don't need me to tell you that a 2x faster SSD is going to be a differentiator for any developer that takes advantage of it.
This does come off as blast processing like. No doubt the tech and the PS5 will overall be great but um, to disregard everything previously known about computing and building a computer and to place an SSD on this pedestal when the Xbox version is also above average. Real world applications will lead to maybe assets being moved 1-3 seconds quicker than the Series X. It doesn't seem like much to tout. Now, if the Xbox had an HDD and the PS5, an SSD, then yeah. Both are blazing fast. One just more so than the other.
Sonys message has been super confusing, and even nonexistent. MS has been Crystal clear with everything Series X.
Sony was clear with PS4, while no one knew what Xbox was back in 2013.
It IS a reversal of 2013.
It's only just started. DF is going to be eating good with all the views they are going to get comparing third party games between X and PS5.
lmao holy shit guys, not even corona virus stops these console wars.
It is really interesting to see in which way both platform holders are going.
Xbox has the stronger box, but have a more exploitative approach to innovation. Meaning, they keep increasing CPU, GPU numbers to deliver similar things in better quality (higher resolution, higher fps).
PlayStation took are more exploratory approach to innovation. The box isn't that strong in raw power to push resolution to its limit, but the ssd for example allows devs to fundamentally change their approach to game design.
Right now it seems gaming enthusiasts prefer Microsoft's approach, while devs are more excited with what Sony is doing. We will see how that plays out.
Xbox has the stronger box, but have a more exploitative approach to innovation. Meaning, they keep increasing CPU, GPU numbers to deliver similar things in better quality (higher resolution, higher fps).
PlayStation took are more exploratory approach to innovation. The box isn't that strong in raw power to push resolution to its limit, but the ssd for example allows devs to fundamentally change their approach to game design.
Right now it seems gaming enthusiasts prefer Microsoft's approach, while devs are more excited with what Sony is doing. We will see how that plays out.
Literally has several tweets in the last two days offering his opinion on TF, the spec reveal, how that's all been interpreted by the public. He inserts opinions often into his timeline.
I just assume Xbox will reach better resolution and frame rate like it does now with the X.
We'll probably get similar differences like RDR2 had, native on Xbox One X, less so elsewhere.
I dread how heated console warriors are going to get over the most minor differences we've ever seen in multiplats. We are absolutely going to see people claim their box is the extra most bestest because a game runs at a slightly higher resolution, or drops slightly fewer frames, or loads slightly faster, or has an ever so slightly better draw distance and so on and so forth.
Meanwhile the games will be practically identical.
Meanwhile the games will be practically identical.
It will be interesting to see how MS responds. Last time, when they clearly had the inferior hardware, it felt like they were everywhere in the media, trying to explain why their console was competitive.
So far, they've been quiet, but it will be interesting to see how it plays out. Continued silence in the immediate aftermath suggests some degree of confidence in their product (but also could simply be the new stance of new leadership).
No matter what, both consoles will be insanely impressive. I still expect that the PS5 will do some unique and amazing things, but primarily in the 1st party space. For 3rd party games, I think the XSX will have a consistent but variable advantage.
So far, they've been quiet, but it will be interesting to see how it plays out. Continued silence in the immediate aftermath suggests some degree of confidence in their product (but also could simply be the new stance of new leadership).
No matter what, both consoles will be insanely impressive. I still expect that the PS5 will do some unique and amazing things, but primarily in the 1st party space. For 3rd party games, I think the XSX will have a consistent but variable advantage.
"I heard from at least 3 Different people in the last couple of hours..."
Let me guess Jason, one of them is the same person who said it is the most exciting console in 20 years?
Let me guess Jason, one of them is the same person who said it is the most exciting console in 20 years?
I mean it might be; but I'd like to hear details, actual devs saying why, etc. Tell me about the differences, how do they each handle ray tracing for instance? Do the SSD differences make a real impact on draw distance and level design? Or is MS's "already many times faster than previous gens" enough to mitigate most of those concerns and PS5 is just that + even less initial load times?
I think both machines will produce great looking and playing games and be great media devices either way.
I think both machines will produce great looking and playing games and be great media devices either way.
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I'm 99.99% sure you are joking.
Dictator knows what he's talking about.
Because reasons....On paper Xbox is clearly the stronger machine, at the end of the day it comes down to games but the news that PS5 will not be superior in every category like the PS4 was to XB1 hit link a bomb to some people.
I really hope schreier doesn't come in here... there is nothing to be gained feeding the bloodthirsty here...
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Getting flashbacks of 8GB GDDR5... Those threads are getting downright stupid.
People crying over 10 to 20% differences they won't even notice.
People losing their mind over SSD speeds despite everything getting a tremendous speedup in term of I/O.
Heck, now we even get console warring over 3D Audio. If at least, this brought a documented discussion but lolnope.
People crying over 10 to 20% differences they won't even notice.
People losing their mind over SSD speeds despite everything getting a tremendous speedup in term of I/O.
Heck, now we even get console warring over 3D Audio. If at least, this brought a documented discussion but lolnope.
I must have missed the XB1 having a 2x advantage in hard disk speeds and PS4's GPU only having around a 15% advantage instead of 40%.
What a completely disingenuous apples to oranges comparison to make it seem like people suddenly don't care about specs to fit your narrative...
The PS5 gives a bit more freedom in game design due to the SSD streaming tech, but that will really only pan out in exclusives. So it will be a PS3 type situation where multiplatform games all run better on Xbox but the first party PS5 exclusives do some amazing things.
The idea of someone being motivated by accuracy rather than allegiance is an extremely foreign concept in the year 2020, so I understand why so many people cannot help but apply a conspiratorial lens to everything happening right now.
I trust Jason's motives. That doesn't mean I am concluding based on his statements/relayed statements that what he is saying is definitely true - I want a lot more information, I'm sure eventually we'll get it. But I'm not ruling his statements false on the basis of some speculative bullshit, either.
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