I don't care which box is better overall, but you cannot seriously believe the bolded. The only way to do that would be having a machine with infinite power.
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Jason Schreier: Playstation 5 more superior piece of Hardware in a lot of different ways despite of what you see in Spec Sheets
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This is gamefaqs level posting. Stop it. Jason is a respected journalist who relays information from sources. This isn't his personal opinion.
Sensitive? He shat all over how they relayed the information.
It'll all depend on how well Sony reveal the console and games, and of course price which I don't think they'll have the advantage on again.
It's crazy. Not only that but xbox also has a 3d audio chip and is using ML to do ray traced 3d audio.
This thread is about tech talk, not sales or whatever you are implying.
After reading a Wired article that just came out and compared the two (including 3D Audio), I guess Microsoft took an advanced route, too, so I stand corrected. It just seemed like their approach was more generic versus the custom approach that Sony is taking, but I guess from the article they are fairly similar, but Sony may have a slight advantage since their approach would work outside of headphones.
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You are not a dev, you are very young and you don't like consoles. PC mentality/logic doesn't work in this case.
I am not saying that you will not be right in the end. But I cannot trust your opinion more than devs comments.
Then you'd be wrong, because the SSD is the big game changer. The single biggest console component leap in decades. We're talking about a 100x faster disk which will change game design. It's really exciting.
You're comparing apples to oranges, they're not the same thing. Microsoft's Velocity Architecture is a fancy way for them describing a whole range of different features and tools, not just related to IO throughput or decompression. For example, one of them is assessing data so that you can play games much earlier during the install phase, an area the PS4 already does something similar, and has a huge advantage over the Xbox One in.
Idk about price (I think it will be cheaper than XSX) but they really only need to tease Spider, Horizon and GOW.
If it gives you no load times I'm in. Going by the Gears 5 tech demo the XSX is not looking great in that regard, optimized or not it was a very weak showing.
all sony needs to do now is price their console one hundred dollars more than the series x, threaten gamers to not be able to buy used games and have to check in every 24 hours and talk about tv integration some more. then we'll be at 2013 levels
Maybe we get another Xbox 360 vs. PS3 situation where first-party games 100% cut towards PS5 outshine everything on XSX, but multiplatforms in general runs better on Xbox. Time will tell. It's really hard to tell without any games/demos and there will most likely be another mid-gen hardware upgrade that might change things again.
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Indoctrinated Cultists.
goddamn, ppl are getting stir-crazy. the systemwarsing is getting ridiculous. both consoles seem to have their unique advantages. And Sony's focus on SSD/3D audio could well be significant. But at least MS showed us a bit with their boost to Gears, RT in Minecraft and quick Suspend/Resume overall.
People will hopefully feel fine once Sony shows instead of just telling, which they've done so far.
People will hopefully feel fine once Sony shows instead of just telling, which they've done so far.
When they show off HZD2, Spidey 2, and GoW2 none of this is going to matter a lick.
The real fucked up thing is, based on the price threads, gamers have already made a straight-line corollary between "numbers on spec sheet" and "how much I'm willing to pay." Even if OP is true, we'll have an endless litany of "ripoff" and "arrogant sony" accusations because one number is smaller than another number. I feel like this hyper-focus on the specs and performance by these companies to the public is pretty damaging and sets the narrative so much into the nitty-gritty when all we should REALLY give two shits about is how the games look. So pls shut up Sony/MS and show more games thx.
Digital Foundry is super neutral and consistently put out the best content related to Video Game hardware and performance. They are certainly more neutral than the first party developers or developers working on exclusives for the PS5 or Mark Cerny himself.
I think if you're calling other fanbases cultists you might be a part of the problem
In 2013, Microsoft people were denying PS4 had a GPU advantage. People were presenting standard GCN units as 'special sauce'.
I don't see the equivalent here. I think everyone acknowledges XSX has better GPU compute, and a better CPU. I think it's also possible PS5 has some better things too. That mix might be reflected in some developer opinion. I'm sure the very same devs Jason spoke to also think the XSX is superior in a lot of ways.
That latest DF video where they cover the improvements to Gears 5 running on Series X and that it was only 2 weeks to get it up and running on Series X and how in some areas it runs at higher settings than Ultra PC settings. This is again, 2 weeks of work and not taking advantage of many of the things in the Series X. To me this bodes extremely well with how the system may handle Xbox One BC games.
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I highly doubt the difference will be as drastic as the 720p and 1080p debacle with the base XONE and PS4 respectively.
I highly doubt the difference will be as drastic as the 720p and 1080p debacle with the base XONE and PS4 respectively.
From many of his other tweets it's clear that he doesn't care about TF, doesn't believe they are the most important metric, and I have to assume this is in part because of devs he talks to, not just some made up opinion. If he's disappointed in anything, it's about how TFs are shaping the discussion right now.
I don't know whether he's right or wrong, but the point he is trying to make is that power comes from various places. The transfer speed of data may have a serious impact on things other than loading, but it's hard for us as non-expert enthusiasts to fit that into our existing model of specs and how they relate to power. This isn't "secret sauce," this is information that is out there, just hard to understand.
People think PS5 wil have no loading times at all
Generation of the sequels.
Generation of the sequels.
You know I'm now firmly in the camp that wishes teraflops were never a thing and I expect the XSX still will be more powerful. For whatever reason people want to just look at things from One perspective and not even consider anything else. It's very disheartening for trying to have a productive discussion.
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