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Parthenios

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Oct 28, 2017
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As someone who plays primarily on Nintendo hardware, I always forget that some people care about hardware specs. Launch cycles do a good job reminding me that twice a decade though :D
 

Bonejack

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Oct 27, 2017
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Haha, so simple yet so right on.

Thing is, let's not pretend that those positions would be basically swapped if the console named in the title would be the other one.

So I guess it's just gonna be this for the next week or two, huh? Think I'll give myself a break from this place for a while. At least Doom Eternal comes out tomorrow (:

Week? This will go on way through the whole generation.
 

CosmicBolt

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Once we see multi platform game running on next generation hardware we'll know which console has superior performance.

Jason hear it from devs, it seems like.

Maybe ultra fast SSD and high clock speed, aids PS5 in performance.
 

digitalrelic

Weight Loss Champion 2018: Biggest Change
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Oct 25, 2017
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And many other insiders say the opposite. Jason's been on PS5 defense mode since before the presentation was even shown yesterday.
 

-Le Monde-

Avenger
Dec 8, 2017
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Jason usually has pretty good sources, so I'm willing to bet he isn't making things up. I wonder if the SSD allows for some texture streaming or something that punches above what the Xbox can do. That said in regards to framerates and resolution math usually doesn't lie, but a 17% difference isn't really going to matter much. They are both looking like great machines.
Dynamic resolution will be used a lot this gen. I expect performance to be the same, with the weaker system dropping the resolution( by the necessary amount) to maintain frame rates.
 
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I mean, all the custom work around the PS5 SSD seems pretty exciting.

But the best thing to do is probably buy both and never worry about a console spec sheet again.
 

Denamitea

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Nov 1, 2017
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Don't really care about hardware that much, tbh. Obviously it matters to some extent but I just wanna see some games at this point
 

DarthWalden

Prophet of Truth
The Fallen
Oct 27, 2017
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Honestly this is all starting to feel like PS4/Xbox One in reverse.

We're talking about 3D audio and SSD Speeds, I cant wait till we start talking about hidden GPUs, Cloud Power and secret sauce.
 

Einbroch

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Oct 25, 2017
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Does any of this REALLY matter? It's always about the games/services. If you like MS's offerings and recent acquisitions, or GamePass is important to you, some minor difference in specs doesn't matter. If you like Sony's offerings or a bit more JP support, the difference in specs doesn't matter to you. Of course friends matter too, but cross play is becoming more common.

I go where the games that I like are.
 

GymWolf86

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Nov 10, 2018
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Who's forcing you to buy video game consoles?
i mean forced maybe is a little bit exagerated but i have a pc for M games and i love sony exclusives, so, do your math...
let's say i'm forced to buy a ps5 to play their exclusive games, no chance in hell of me waiting years to play these games on pc.
 

Dr Pears

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Sep 9, 2018
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Just super excited with what first party will cook up. Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Guerilla and Insomniac all blew my mind even on base PS4 hardware this gen. They are at their peak, like 2007 Crytek lol.
 

Belvedere

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Oct 27, 2017
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I've got to say I'm glad there's different approaches to hardware architecture next gen. I was worried they'd be carbon copies of each other but that's not the case.

Can't wait for more data.
 
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I see some people are having a really hard time balancing the idea that the two machines may have different advantages, rather than one being roundly superior in all aspects.

The tech details are laid out. We can see where it's better 'in different ways'. It's not nebulous, made up, misterxmedia 'secret sauce'.

Yup, and in that regard I thought this comment from John Linneman yesterday was particularly interesting.

 

Crushed

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Oct 25, 2017
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this is going to make the resolution comparisons of 2013 look tame. we're going to go back to 2006-8 era stuff of "actually, the softer look is more cinematic and less angular and harsh on the eyes."


grim stuff, folks. not good.
 

zombiejames

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Oct 25, 2017
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I think there's still a lot left to be revealed from both MS and Sony. Making final judgements now on which is superior sounds foolish to me.
 

Theorry

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Oct 27, 2017
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Is it as performant as Sony's? (I mean it might be, I don't know...)

We can disagree on the importance of different advantages. We can't disagree that they exist.
Series X has Project Acoustic. They talked about it with the reveal.

Project Acoustics is a wave acoustics engine for 3D interactive experiences. It models wave effects like occlusion, obstruction, portaling and reverberation effects in complex scenes without requiring manual zone markup or CPU intensive ray tracing. It also includes game engine and audio middleware integration. Project Acoustics' philosophy is similar to static lighting: bake detailed physics offline to provide a physical baseline, and use a lightweight runtime with expressive design controls to meet your artistic goals for the acoustics of your virtual world. Ray-based acoustics methods can check for occlusion using a single source-to-listener ray cast, or drive reverb by estimating local scene volume with a few rays. But these techniques can be unreliable because a pebble occludes as much as a boulder. Rays don't account for the way sound bends around objects, a phenomenon known as diffraction. Project Acoustics' simulation captures these effects using a wave-based simulation. The acoustics are more predictable, accurate and seamless. Project Acoustics' key innovation is to couple real sound wave-based acoustic simulation with traditional sound design concepts. It translates simulation results into traditional audio DSP parameters for occlusion, portaling, and reverb. The designer uses controls over this translation process.
 

MonsterMech

Mambo Number PS5
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Oct 27, 2017
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Secret sauce strikes again.

We've been though this multiple times.

No level of special customization will make up for raw numbers.

Im sure Sony built a great machine, and devs will do amazing things with it, but it is what it is as far as numbers are concerned
 
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