I don't understand why some seems so incredibly shocked that the game started full production in 2016. It was common knowledge for a long time and makes common sense considering they finished Witcher 3's extensions then.
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[Jason Schreier] Inside Cyberpunk 2077's Disastrous Rollout (Update: Head of CDPR Responds)
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4 years dev with smaller team than rockstar to make an rpg+gta.
this was all a hype game to sell on preorders. or the concept should be smaller and cleared to "gamers" years ago
the devs not even having access to the console dev kits is news to me, holy shit. no wonder those versions are so bad.
all that for a fake demo.
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Yeah, like "hum, everyone suspected that was the case, booo, boring article that actually confirmed things"
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To be fair, this is something that is happening in
EDIT: Found some studios that made it work! Posted some sources in another post.
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I mean that's not true in all cases. I know for a fact third party studios have taken home current gen dev kits prior to their announcement. Different policies for different studios, but still. Not every studio.
all that for a fake demo.
These quotes just remind me how much journalists/media outlets are just a marketing tool to these companies.
I truly wonder just how much money was spent on the marketing of this game. It seemed to permeate all aspects of the industry - most notably with those cringe-filled YouTube videos of influencers sat in their Cyberpunk 2077 chairs talking about how the game is going to make GTA a thing of the past.
XBox One shouldn't have been a problem... or what am I missing...?
Xbox Developer Mode activation - UWP applications
How to activate Developer Mode so you can switch between Retail Mode and Developer Mode.
docs.microsoft.com
Oh, do you have a source for that? Not that I doubt you. I'm just curious to know how they made it work.
That's different. You can activate most Xbox as a dev kit, but not every one, as the note says in the article. I know some studios didn't allow devs to take kits home due to security reasons, but I'll try to do some research to get more details.XBox One shouldn't have been a problem... or what am I missing...?
Xbox Developer Mode activation - UWP applications
How to activate Developer Mode so you can switch between Retail Mode and Developer Mode.docs.microsoft.com
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I think most people expected that they had already done pre-production around 2016 and established the prototype something that other major professional studios usually do as to avoid waste of labor and make the process more efficient.
And lets be serious, I never understood the hype for that demo, when I saw, I was like " that is it? " the marketing and hype machine behind this game was always overblow, " may be the best video game ever made" based on that demo is embarrassing.
all that for a fake demo.
and lol they should put a lot of ****** in that over 200 awards
I can't believe how inefficient their processes were. Screw not having pre production, they barely had a pipeline system.
Maybe they got lucky that they had a smaller team and tons of luck for W3
Want to work on Cyberpunk or The Witcher. The AAA game industry is unfortunately ruthless in chewing up and spitting out hopeful passionate devs in cases like this.
What bad priorities really mean. Sure you got a good demo with lots of awards, great marketing, but now your game that isnt anywhere near done has made the impression that its pretty far in development, expectations are sky high, and you wont make it in time. The refunds werent worth that demo.
all that for a fake demo.
XBox One shouldn't have been a problem... or what am I missing...?
Xbox Developer Mode activation - UWP applications
How to activate Developer Mode so you can switch between Retail Mode and Developer Mode.docs.microsoft.com
Adding some quotes based on different experiences:
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So yeah, not every studio - especially as solutions such as the one by Microsoft are developed.
Wow, never saw that E3 footage (didn't watch anything and bought it completely blind back then for the PS3) but finished TLOU1 three times. Looking at the early trailers now it's actually really sad that it didn't make it into the full game :(
EDIT: After having watched the full video I think some AI things are reeeally bugged in this video.
Which is exactly why game developers will continue to do it too- there's profit to be made through willful and manipulative deception, without much recourse.
Cyberpunk is so fucking hilariously broken it's dethroned Oscar Worthy GTA4 as "most overinflated assessment garbage gap of all time". Didn't expect that at all, but it's apt.
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This was indeed a very short article. I feel like most of this was either known already or easily inferred.
What?
"Developer Mode can be enabled on any retail Xbox console, via the "Retail to Dev Kit conversion" app found in the Xbox store." If you have a developer box you do not need to do the conversation...
The issue is more likely that to be able to run you need a full executable of the game, maybe CD project Red was not happy to let developers have those due to possible leaks (but it feels like it would only work on development XBoxes - and most likely only developer XBoxes made converted by the specific developer)
It's one of the most overrated games ever made, it was a good game but had tons of problems and gets a pass for most of the things it does.
all that for a fake demo.
but remember kids: there is no game media 'hive mind'. it's just their 'individual opinions'...
Head of CDPR Responds
I can't give any source other than telling you I know people in the industry/live with someone in said industry that made it work. Sorry.
I was talking specifically about this note:
But again, we don't know the specifics of CDPR's case, and I'm not a huge fan of speculating. We only know they didn't use any of the available solutions.
No worries! The other post I quoted you has some info on it, too.
His second point defending about whether his staff thought the game should have been delayed or not is terrible in hindsight. If he were to ask all the staff today everyone would say yes.
It's clear as day the majority of staff wouldn't have been super happy with the final product.
Hilarious, and they are still trying to be seen as ''good guys''.
The second response of his in the image is ???? because it suggests most staff thought it was ready for release in 2020 lol.
What blows my mind is the police system being put in at the last minute.
Like...how did they not realize that people would catch on to this bullshit?
And its a futuristic world, they COULD have had their cops transmat/transport/teleport in with some cool visuals and sound effect and it would have been fine. But no, they decided just popping in is realistic enough.
what the fuck were they thinking.
Like...how did they not realize that people would catch on to this bullshit?
And its a futuristic world, they COULD have had their cops transmat/transport/teleport in with some cool visuals and sound effect and it would have been fine. But no, they decided just popping in is realistic enough.
what the fuck were they thinking.
I mean... knowing what we do now, perhaps they should have just made Witcher 4.
That language thing is really weird. Were the employees speaking Polish to them or just around them? If it's the latter, seems the norm for people to default to their native language outside of business. Or atleast it's pretty common at my job.
So basically CDPR is such on a high horse that they can't even acknowledge the mess they created and not taking full accountability?
SMH
SMH
It's very common in every job I've ever worked, and I'm not based in a country where English is not the native language. It's certainly othering and feels exclusionary, but for the two Bulgarian speakers I work with, it's communal for them and almost ritualistic. Good look getting natives not to speak to another in their native tongue with some kind of formal rule. I agree with Badowski's comment: moving to another country where you do not speak the language and do not come from the culture IS hard. That is a risk you take. CDPR clearly tried to correct for it.
BTW CP2077 is bad, so I am not defending them, but that criticism is odd.
Yeah, I corrected myself in another post with a bunch of sources!
As far as the console versions go I wonder if legally they aren't allowed to really acknowledge what went on there? It seems like they'd set themselves up for lawsuit hell if they openly admit that they knew the state that those were in.
Somebody should tell em to keep their fucking heads down. What a bunch of clows.
Their comms director included...
Their comms director included...
Yikes. Being defensive isn't the best course of action here at all...
That will 100% be there next game. Need to get in good graces with people again
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