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Jason Schreier - Hackers found a security vulnerability in a patch for an older ND game and used it to leak TLOU 2
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Yeah I can't really blame people for believing that it came from a ND employee when a trusted journalist made a popular tweet that presumed that it was. Also it's fun how people here are shaming others for believing it might be an employee when a lot of people here wanted the leaker to be locked up regardless of their situation.
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I was banned for most of this so all I could do was read but pretty depressing how many people even in this forum clearly have a hate agenda and not just randomly created accounts. Kind of shocked me
Well of course they can't ban them because there is no reasonable reason for a ban (unlike the "No Russian" mission in MW2). The government would look idiotic and anger many people if they would ban them because "they have woman heroes".
But their main focus in this case are the alt-right and gamergate people in other countries whose agenda they want to promote. Why else would they make several gamergate-type articles (in english and other languages) about movies and games?
Sorry, I don't buy that. In the very same tweet thread Jason stated categorically that he didn't know who leaked it or why (something that was reiterated in threads on Era), many just chose to ignore that part of his tweet, presumably because it didn't suit their favoured narrative.
On a side note, it's honestly amusing but also scary and shocking watching people on social media go from championing Jason to hating on and trying to discredit him, depending on whether what he's saying fits their agenda or not. It must be exhausting for him.
He went from being the ND hating champion when he posted the crunch articles, to being a corporate boot-licker the moment he started questioning the unpaid disgruntled employee fake rumours and the leaks moral implications to devs/fans. Essentially many wanted you to believe his insider contacts and knowledge when it came to negative ND details (crunch), but not when it came to this leak or positive ND stuff (eg them paying staff extra during Covid19) lol.
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People go to jail for hacking. It's against the law. Whether or not that's something that agrees with how you view this event I guess is up to you. I don't agree with doxxing or any sort of vendetta based posting but people taking advantage of this stuff do indeed go to jail.
fucking for real, most major companies that take this shit seriously scan Git commits for stuff like this
absolutely embarrassing
I counted about 3 people in that 1000+ post thread that wanted the
I'm happy there'll seemingly be no second parties getting fucked over by a few bellends taking them all down with them.
Regardless of who was behind this leak it doesn't remove the fact that RT (Russia Today) makes frequently several gamergate-type articles about movies and games to promote alt-right and gamergate agendas in other countries.
"A lot of people" = 2 or 3 people among the many in that thread. Most were actually calling them out for wanting blood before we knew the proper details, but now that we do, a crime has been committed and jail time is not out of the question for them, but I do hope the name or names don't come out because they don't need yet another thing to worry about besides what's already coming to them.
Also, people keep saying Schreier said or believed the disgruntled employee angle, yet his tweet was very clear in raising doubts about it. Saying "I find it unlikely" doesn't mean you're presuming it is the reason at all, all the contrary.
I said I wasn't going to come back to this thread (also because I fear spoilers and I already read about 2 details I didn't want to know in threads that had nothing to do with spoiler discussion), but I'm curious as to what else comes to light because this security breach is interesting, if very amateurish from what I've read.
Was it the Same dude who tweeted... Saved you 60 bucks and time.. Well, now he might just have plenty of time to recollect on his actions.
They were passing a key with full read access to the bucket in a patch. Come on, man. Bucket policies, KMS keys, presigned urls, etc. AWS has so much documentation on best practices to stop this from happening. Before I had plenty of sympathy, but this was preventable. You pass a key to a customer, you have to assume they will use it for everything it can access.
Late to the thread, I know, but yeah Pixelbutts is a known quantity in the game preservation community, that by nature of what he does he hears about hacks and leaks like these behind the scenes all the time. I actually met him in person a few years back, and I trust him to know what he's talking about when it comes to this sort of stuff. Seems like I was right to, in this case!
Thanks, I was on mobile so couldn't easily jump betwet the threads, otherwise I would've tagged you.
Just got a Angry Joe video recommendation on the spoilers. The thumbnail was just him with his upset angry face, lol. I'm sure the influx of angry YouTubers are going to become even more unbearable. ND has been claiming a bunch of videos to try to squash spoilers.
Turn around? jschreier has stated that most of the devs he's spoken to over the years have said that ND is an amazing place to work at, besides the crunch. Crunch is awful but it's not like it's just a ND problem, it's an industry wide thing, no?
Just because a bad thing is practiced by others, doesn't excuse them. There are other devs who make an effort to avoid crunch but there are devs that champion it.
Fuck Im really curious about MP actually. Wish there was a safe way to ask about MP but Im too scared to go into the Spoiler thread.
You are surprised ND are paying their devs?! Crunch is what they're guilty of, and it's an industry problem so I would quit the console wars agenda.
This is what I'm Thinking, especially when everyone at home right now..... that should of been the first thing they should of told thier dev teams! Beef up your security, because people will be trying to hack you! Something else I'm thinking is why on earth do companies put future code into old releases? I seen this befor, as it's how contents of a free mobile act that play where spoiled. Just seems like a strange concept?
Not that ND shouldn't be criticized but some of these people act like crunch is some ND exclusive deal.
We had a thread closed yesterday about that because there was no proof that was happening. Has anything more come out about that?
Jail for leaking just videogames? What madness is this.
No mercy Sony/ND. No mercy to them
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Yup, it's bizarre. I've never seen anything like it. The same people that quote Jason Schrier's article on crunch culture at ND are now the same people saying he's not to be believed and that he's a Sony shill now because his story doesn't fit their agenda. How does this even make logical sense lol?
I didnt think the tacit /s was necessary... looks like it is lol.
I've seen some bizarre takes in this thread. 😆 I thought you were being serious as well.
Pretty much. Stuff like this is very common though and you will almost never hear about (not just for this industry either). ;)
AWS bucket breaches are literally a meme now.
This is mostly a configuration vulnerability though. SaaS products like Azure and AWS are just services. While they so have good security (Azure more so imo), the configuration integrity rests on the admin in charge.
AWS bucket breaches are literally a meme now.
To answer both your questions in one: Sony is primarily a hardware company while Microsoft is primarily software (more so SaaS). Microsoft has built entire platforms and services that they market to various clients in various industries.
This is mostly a configuration vulnerability though. SaaS products like Azure and AWS are just services. While they so have good security (Azure more so imo), the configuration integrity rests on the admin in charge.
Exactly my thoughts, there's so much misinformation being spread by YouTube channels and individuals who already didn't like Ellie being lesbian or they read some random 4chan post and took that as fact. And the fact they refuse to believe the leak was a hacker is just the result of confirmation bias.
Just going off of what has been said. I doubt it's true and it's more of the same outrage gaming YouTubers that do this to get more views.
its that their servers were not well setup and it was
???? it was hacked tho. It's not just ND saying this. Two people one being me on this forum have said it and you're getting multiple others on twitter also confirming this.
???? it was hacked tho. It's not just ND saying this. Two people one being me on this forum have said it and you're getting multiple others on twitter also confirming this.
I have massive respect for his stuff, loved his book too, but his handling of this situation was... unprofessional. He's aware people look at him for verifying stuff and confirming rumors, so the fact he just randomly believed a Reddit rumor of a disgruntled employee helped forming a false narrative. He later retracted that, but in more than one tweet he needed to point out that, despite already extensively covering the horrible crunches and development issues of their games, that it's actually a great place and that they even paid bonuses, as if it were so unheard of. I wouldn't say a place where you have to work 12 hours a day, 7 days a week is a great place even if you get bonuses for the COVID-19 emergency, but to each their own.
At least it's cleared up now.
Just read about this. I honestly think anyone still pushing conspiracy theories deserves to be banned off this site for spreading fake info. We keep getting more and more info about how this leak really happened, so here's hoping the appropriate action is taken against these hackers.