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Jason Schreier: "Final Fantasy VII Remake's Box Art Sure Is Misleading"
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In conclusion you should know that this is an issue.
No, see this isn't at all tied to Final Fantasy 7 so we shouldn't put Part 1 or anything. The Last of Us being an original IP that got a sequel is the exact same as a remake of an original game
It's so disassociated from the original that we decided to call it Final Fantasy 7 Remake
Yes
I get the criticism, but I really doubt that this will be a 4 hour experience.
The sheer amount of work being put into this certainly warrants a $60 price tag. It looks magnitudes more difficult to produce than the static backgrounds approach.
The sheer amount of work being put into this certainly warrants a $60 price tag. It looks magnitudes more difficult to produce than the static backgrounds approach.
I don't know about that. Every time there's one of these threads, there's always some users who go "whoa, it's split in parts?"
This is just another scheme to get to my Black Materia, isn't it?
Yes, but they won't confirm their release plans. Either they actually don't know (unlikely) or it was just PR talk.
While it is literally correct, we see a lot of confusion and altered perceptions or expectations due to subtitles in other games, particularly the usage of "remastered." This is a tough one; they are obviously keeping it simple for maximum marketing purposes (add a subtitle and it starts to sound like a spinoff) but some people will inevitably feel duped.
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Square Enix is definitely hoodwinking a lot of people and I think they should be more upfront about it.
The only way this works for me is if the ball bustingly huge sales that this game generates results in the rest being "digital downloads" for like 30 bucks or the price of a Season pass to get the next parts added onto the original game. Other than that the fact that no one knows "how many parts" and the fact that instead of just fleshing out the existing game they're changing/adding stuff and padding out the Midgar section to fill a whole game has me completely unsure of where I stand on any of it.
The story changes already are enough to get me raising an eyebrow but we'll see how they handle this. I don't think even Square knows at this point what they're going to do after this.
The story changes already are enough to get me raising an eyebrow but we'll see how they handle this. I don't think even Square knows at this point what they're going to do after this.
How many people were angry that they paid to see what was advertised as an adaptation of a novel, and only ended up getting half the story?
I see we're comparing a $10 movie remake ($20 if you count both) to what will most likely be over $200 remake game of the original FF7 story. Makes total sense.
Fuck no.
If were counting FFVII ending at Midgar is incomplete then so is Mass Effect. Both end with what you thought was the main threat being killed only to find out there's a much larger threat out there.
Gonna agree with Jason on this one. If there's no indication it's not the full original story, game on the box.
Seeing some of the posts in here explaining why it's not misleading with examples is interesting, lol.
I get opinions n all, but pick some better examples.
Seeing some of the posts in here explaining why it's not misleading with examples is interesting, lol.
I get opinions n all, but pick some better examples.
I wasn't aware that God of War on PS2 also included God of War PS4 in it's entirety. Almost like those games were actual sequels and not parts of one game remade.
There were absolutely 100% discussions about this after E3 when it was shown that they were still just calling the first release "FF7 REMAKE"
It's a remake of final fantasy 7, that's what the title says. The game won't be a full remake though.
Isn't that the case with most news here? Lol.
If it's a fully realized, 25-30+ hour game, that's fun to play (looks great from all the preview media), then what's the problem?
Never played the original game but I'm very excited about this one!
So now price is a factor for some reason?
That wan't what this topic started with.
In conclusion nothing. This is more than just the first few hours of FFVII remade. Midgar isn't as short as everyone seems to be misremembering and it's already pretty clearly been added to to make a more complete part of the story. It not being outright, in your face "PART 1 OF HOWEVER MANY WE WANNA MAKE IT!" is asinine. Bitching about it when we haven't seen the back of the box to know if they are for sure not mentioning it only being part of the full experience is asinine.
This is not an issue.
When a company is purposely being misleading, they should be called out on it.
It's a "remake" of a comic book story line technically. And it doesn't contain the entire story.
I honestly think Infinity War is a really fair comparison, because it was announced initially as a two part story told in two movies, but the general public that don't follow movie news did not know that.
When they got to the end credits and realized this is only half the story, the vast majority of people did not get mad or feel like they were ripped off.
They literally think it's a real "gotcha" moment while not understanding they're using sequels in a discussion about a remake.
I don't care either, but I can see this being a legitimate problem if there's no indication in the final print.
I don't think peeps are arguing it shouldn't be $60, I sure ain't. It's just stupid that the front advertising for the game implies it's a full remake, which it isn't.
I dont care about company but semantics.
If people care so much about misleading Uncle Joe why not go further to stop confusion.
This makes me think back to FF7s advertising back in 1997 where all it's commercials were just the CG movies and not the actual gameplay. I wonder how many casual buyers bought the game and said WTF when they saw the actual in game graphics and the turn based combat?
Same here.
After years of "VAPORWARE!" and "Modern Square sucks & I don't trust them to pull it off!" and "Can't wait to play this on snow-globe PS9 when my body floats through The Matrix in 2115!" and "Square is turning this into a shitty action game!"- we finally get to the game reveal, it's exciting, the designs are fucking incredible, the gameplay (from all accounts) is excellent, they've eliminated fears by confirming the materia system and a 'classic' combat style that plays in a more turn-based, strategic fashion... everything seems to be going right... yet this is the new albatross around the project's neck. And it will be continue to be unless they address it- either by explaining the reasoning or adding a goddamn subtitle to appease people. But this needs to be addressed in the next 5 months.
You'd have an absolutely fair argument, if it wasn't literally called "Final Fantasy VII Remake".
They should give it a different name, or call it Part 1.
Not against there being a subtitle, but really what drawbacks does not having one present. Like, good faith here, for real.
You've purchased an entire, supposedly lengthy game. Do you feel cheated that it wasn't longer? Or that they chose to expand a previous portion instead of providing the original experience in a shorter span? Is the wait for new content the issue? I can empathize with the general public not being aware, and based on the backlash I'm sure we'll hear about it at release. It's valid to stand up for those being misled, that much I can totally agree on. It should probably have a subtitle, and I'm still kinda baffled they decided to call it 'remake' directly and not something else.
You've purchased an entire, supposedly lengthy game. Do you feel cheated that it wasn't longer? Or that they chose to expand a previous portion instead of providing the original experience in a shorter span? Is the wait for new content the issue? I can empathize with the general public not being aware, and based on the backlash I'm sure we'll hear about it at release. It's valid to stand up for those being misled, that much I can totally agree on. It should probably have a subtitle, and I'm still kinda baffled they decided to call it 'remake' directly and not something else.
Pretty sure everyone that buys it is gonna think its the whole game, and seeing the 2 discs in the case will only reinforce that. Yes, I mean everyone, this forum and others are such a small portion they don't even register on the scale. This is a volcano waiting to erupt imo
That's not what he meant. He meant the remake is based on 4 hours of the original game, just with extended content to be a full AAA length game.
FF7 just massively opens up after the part the remake will likely end. I doubt there'll be 10 parts, 3 tops is my guess.
As it stands now, that cover is misleading.
Maybe there's a possibility that it's not the final one? Human error?
But I'm not holding my breath.
Maybe there's a possibility that it's not the final one? Human error?
But I'm not holding my breath.
This doesn't even make sense.
Again, baring a significant rewrite, you're going to be left with questions like "who is Sephiroth? What are the ancients? But what about Shinra? What is Jenova? Where are they going next?" In any other context, these would be sequel hooks meant to be followed up, and finished and resolved, in a future title.
And if we're at the point where sequel hooks are involved, what is the harm in spelling this out as the Midgar arc exactly?
I know you understand this isn't even slightly the same thing.
Tell me, who would suffer if they put "Part 1", "Episode 1" or some subtitle on it to make it more clear?
It'll need to be at least four parts, honestly. Midgar is such a tiny slice of the game that you'd need at least three more games to cover everything unless you cut a LOT - and the world gets way BIGGER after Midgar, not smaller.
The title needs to be FFVII Remake: Prologue or FFVII Remake: Midgar Chronicles or something.
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