This is some crazy rewriting of history.
Advanced Warfare and WW2 were both highly praised games.
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Jason Schreier: Call of Duty 2020 no longer being developed by Sledgehammer Games/Raven. New Black Ops by Treyarch instead and FTP talks
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Advanced Warfare and WW2 were both highly praised games.
Did you play COD Black Ops 4? Being a paid game isn't affecting it one bit. There's F2P games that are more generous with monetized items than that game. It's one of the worst microtransaction hells ever made, only beaten by the original Battlefront 2, and only because Battlefront 2 had stat changing items.
Like Activision executives were given a list of various monetization models used by successful service games and decided to implement all of them.
One of the problems of yearly releases is like when problems happen you can't really delay things until you get it right. Seems like changes in the studios caused this situation.
Also, really curious about an article about Black Ops 4 and it's development. Seems like it can be super interesting!
Also, really curious about an article about Black Ops 4 and it's development. Seems like it can be super interesting!
Advanced Warfare was highly praised for the campaign. That's what he means probably.
The MP was also highly praised at first too, it wasn't until fatigue kicked in where people really started to turn on advanced movement.
Absolute joke. BO4 didn't have enough time to put in a campaign so it's getting a year less development for the sequel - I'm assuming that's the campaign out the window again too.
Activision are pathetic at this stage, is it really that hard to take a year off? They're gonna end up killing the franchise running it into the ground so badly.
Activision are pathetic at this stage, is it really that hard to take a year off? They're gonna end up killing the franchise running it into the ground so badly.
Read the article, Raven and Sledgehammer are making the campaign.
Tbh I'm fine with that then (the campaign bit, not going back to a 2 year cycle).
AW campaign was good, didn't play WW2 but I heard that was decent too.
After BO3 I have zero faith in Treyarch making a good campaign any more.
However saying that, I don't see myself buying CoD again either, so I guess it doesn't matter what my opinion on the matter is.
Time wasn't the issue, Treyarch took the story of BO3 that was universally despised and decided to go even further with it including time travel and everything(its still clearly visible in the calling cards and uniform skins).
Activision said "hell no" a decent ways in after seeing it(and the hated reaction of Infinite)
They didn't have enough time to reboot it so it was cut entirely.
So what will Vicarious Vision be doing now that they are no longer helping on Destiny? Helping on COD?
Shame, Black Ops has not been good to me since BLOPS2
Shame, Black Ops has not been good to me since BLOPS2
I actually really enjoyed advanced warfare and I thought world war II was better than Black ops and I'm a huge Black ops fan.
What is really amazing is that infinity Ward gets to keep making games yet they haven't had a good online version of call of duty in 10 years.
What is really amazing is that infinity Ward gets to keep making games yet they haven't had a good online version of call of duty in 10 years.
Sounds like Sledgehammer fell apart after the studio heads departed and siphoned off talent. Raven has been in a support role for so long that it's probably hard for them to switch gears too
Activision will rush BO5 out the door even if the smart move is to take a year off
Activision will rush BO5 out the door even if the smart move is to take a year off
Franchises get run into the ground eventually. They probably want to decouple the multiplayer but there is always the fear of losing the impact of major releases, rock and a hard place for Activision? They jump it might mean a fast downward spiral for COD if they make mistakes but if they stumble with the same old it may just be a slower death. Activision are weird these days, feels like they could crumble at any point, fear change and can't make future plans?
Man, remember before the CoD days, when Raven used to just put out good, solid video games? Not necessarily all-time greats, but games where you'd look back and go, "Oh yeah, I remember that game. That was a lot of fun."
I almost feel a little more nostalgic for that stuff than the all-time classics, because it feels like the industry has moved on from a place where Raven Software could be Raven Software. Know what I mean?
I almost feel a little more nostalgic for that stuff than the all-time classics, because it feels like the industry has moved on from a place where Raven Software could be Raven Software. Know what I mean?
No campaign, pretty much every type of microtransaction you can think of is in the game and the Specialists are just a bunch of overpowered weapons and equipment clearly made so bad players can get some free, cheap kills. Post launch support has also been relatively disappointing.
Yeah with the loss of Destiny, Activision doesn't have much in the AAA space besides CoD. With so many studios devoted to the series, it could be bad news if CoD starts to decline.
eehhh
last good BLOPS was BLOPS2
since than it has sucked
3 LANE maps have plagued COD which made the Maps stale
Zombie went from a simple fun addictive mode too way to much going on that ruined the experience
Pass on this game
last good BLOPS was BLOPS2
since than it has sucked
3 LANE maps have plagued COD which made the Maps stale
Zombie went from a simple fun addictive mode too way to much going on that ruined the experience
Pass on this game
If I had to make an uninformed guess, Vicarious is gonna revive the Crash Bandicoot series by making new, original games.
The next gen versions won't be drastically different. Look at CoD Ghosts. Advanced Warfare was arguably the first next gen looking CoD game.
They need to push Modern Warfare 4 into 2020. Start porting it to next gen consoles, release blackout as a free to play game (maybe even launch MW2/MW3 campaign remake). Push Black Ops 5 to Fall 2021. As a franchise fan, I'd hate to see it all come crashing down.
Black Ops 5 will have tons of issues if it is to launch in 2020 for FIVE platforms.
Black Ops 5 will have tons of issues if it is to launch in 2020 for FIVE platforms.
Imagine Activision running Crash into the ground the way that they did Tony Hawk and Guitar Hero.
Oh I can definitely see that happen. But at least it means Activision will internally develop some new games not called Call of Duty.
Push MW4 back and leave people stuck with shitty BO4 that is already disliked, underperformed, had player drop off AND won't have further major support because Treyarch is busy?
Not a great idea.
At worst release MW4 this year and have Infinity Ward develop DLC for it through 2021 while BO5 is pushed to 2021.
If Blackout isn't getting an update for MW4 get an MW themed map and weapon skins ready for Summer or Fall 2020.
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Why? MW4 hasn't had any development issues from what we know. Pretty by this point last year we were already getting tons of leaks about how bad of a state BO4 was in.
I mainly thought of the idea as a big new gen launch for Call of Duty. In my opinion, they would be better off releasing Modern Warfare 4 when new gen consoles come. Why release a dumpster fire rush that could get a Fallout 76/Anthem level of backlash?
If MW4 is running smoothly, you'd do better for the brand launching into the new gen.
Cause giving it a whole extra year of development for something that isn't plagued by issues is going to drive the development cost of the game way up. Mind you to get it to launch when you'd want it to is asking it have an additional year of development.
They could release MW4 this year (which they will) and push back Black Ops 5 if they really feel unsure about it in 2020. Just would really stink for them to possibly miss the new gen launch or releasing a messy title at launch. This also will break their 3 year cycle...so does Infinity Ward have to make their next entry for 2021?
I'm totally with you. The demise of Raven Software as a developer which regularly released good games of its own was all part of the demise of the video game middle class from the last generation into this one. It's one of the many reasons I can never echo those who declare this generation superior to the last one.
The idea of a new Singularity is far more exciting than a new COD. Poor Raven.
Man Activision is now basically one trick pony. Instead of investing in ne IPs or reviving old ones they have only CoD (and Crash but that is exception not rule). And they now want to lean towards F2P.
And people are wondering why publishers leave E3, they have nothing to show.
And people are wondering why publishers leave E3, they have nothing to show.
re-reading that Kotaku article this morning- I had originally skipped past the bits where Gondrey's formed a new studio and staff are leaving (this happens a lot with CoD)- Sledgehammer probably won't be long for this world. A support studio in the Bay Area doesn't make a lot of sense unless you have specific talent there. (sucks for SH people but a huge game like a CoD or two on your resume never hurts).
I still play CoD every year despite the MTX (none of that paid stuff interests me and I've never found it detracts much from the game too much), but I do agree Activision needs to incubate some new IP rather than rely on 2 or 3 franchises that have been around since PS2 days. FTP only CoD is were I step off. I loved Titanfall but I was never interested in trying Apex.
I still play CoD every year despite the MTX (none of that paid stuff interests me and I've never found it detracts much from the game too much), but I do agree Activision needs to incubate some new IP rather than rely on 2 or 3 franchises that have been around since PS2 days. FTP only CoD is were I step off. I loved Titanfall but I was never interested in trying Apex.
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They were already working on their next game as per the usual 3 year cycle.
They've just decided to accelerate the process.
With the new consoles out next year this will be cross gen too. I hope they don't burn Treyarch just to get this project out on time.
I can see Sledgehammer closing or just becoming a support studio after this too which is a shame.
Man, I kinda wish Raven game would have seen the light of day. Honestly Sledgehammer hasn't really been all that good and their games lack the vision that both Treyarch and IW have.
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Man, Activision is really scrambling at keeping this Call of Duty ship afloat.
Just sad to read. Not sure many will be overly excited for Blops5 so soon. Shifting the project so late is a sure way to destroy morale at Sledgehammer, a studio already seeing a large exodus. I'm not sure it'll still be around in the same way in a few years. And this kind of pressure on Treyarch who've only just come out of a pressurising situation does not seem healthy.
Just sad to read. Not sure many will be overly excited for Blops5 so soon. Shifting the project so late is a sure way to destroy morale at Sledgehammer, a studio already seeing a large exodus. I'm not sure it'll still be around in the same way in a few years. And this kind of pressure on Treyarch who've only just come out of a pressurising situation does not seem healthy.
Wait so we won't have 2019 game ? Is that right? If so Activision might be actually doing something right for once makin cod series 2 year cycle although still short ,but sure better than nothing
