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Jared Leto's Joker and Jesse Eisenberg's Luthor together would be the worst thing in film history
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That...that would actually work. Get the Harley Quinn animated series writers on it and do it as a Series.
Yeah, Eisenberg was fine in theory. My biggest issue with him was the lack of any gravity around him. You can be a tech douche and still be intimidating.
its still funny to me that they made eisenberg a tech bro to "update" lex luther from his old evil businessman persona the year that the person he was based on was elected president
way to have your finger on the pulse of the culture there guys
way to have your finger on the pulse of the culture there guys
Agreed.
The basic character sheet was fine, more than fine...it's pretty inspired to make him start as a tech bro. IRL someone like Bezos captures the various incarnation of businessman Luthor well.
I blame the script/direction, because Eisenberg as Zuch was a better Luthor than when he actually played Luthor, LOL. (the seething menace for having to deal with everyone around him, the snappy comebacks to the lawyers at the table during the flash forwards, etc)
I only watched the original Suicide Squad recently and it was actually worse than I thought it would be. As for Leto's Joker I had heard it was bad but just like the movie I thought "How bad could it Possibly be?" Well it was worse than I expected. Joker is tough because other's have done him so well but holy shit his Joker was next level trash.
I think Leto's approach to the role was not great but Eisenberg's Lex could pass if he had a better script and better direction.
I would've loved this to be honest. Both were so bad in their movies that it would've been an entertaining trainwreck.
Apart from one image, Luthor wasn't really ever based on Trump. When he was retconned into an evil businessman, he was still a tech genius.
John Byrne has said in interviews that he and Marv Wolfman explicitly based their version of Luthor on Trump.
Did they? They also said he built his empire with his own tech genius (I belive this was later retconned). So I guess the rich bully part fits, but not the inherited-wealth doofus. I guess public perception of Trump back then was that he was smart. In any event, modeling Luthor on current perceptions of Trump doesn't make a ton of sense. Trump's a raging anti-intellectual and the public is keenly aware of it now.
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"I built the character as a cross between Donald Trump, Ted Turner, Howard Hughes and maybe Satan himself! "
Also, Byrne on his forum:
"Luthor was a composite, really. The overall tapestry was Trump, but into that were woven the likes of Ted Turner, and even the more unsavory aspects of Thomas Edison. There was a hint of Tesla around the edges, too."
Comic Legends: Was Lex Luthor in Man of Steel Based on Donald Trump?
In the latest Comic Book Legends Revealed, discover if Lex Luthor in Man of Steel was based on Donald Trump!
"I built the character as a cross between Donald Trump, Ted Turner, Howard Hughes and maybe Satan himself! "
Also, Byrne on his forum:
"Luthor was a composite, really. The overall tapestry was Trump, but into that were woven the likes of Ted Turner, and even the more unsavory aspects of Thomas Edison. There was a hint of Tesla around the edges, too."
That makes a lot more sense that straight Trump. Luthor is a self-made man and a genius, neither of which fits Trump. But ruthless, vain, and bullying all fit.
The casting was solid. Jesse Eisenberg is a fantastic actor who played Zuckerberg, who is basically a modern, real-life, tech bro version of all of those old business magnate/engineering genius super villains. With competent writing and direction they could have made something relevant.
I don't know, I don't get the hate for their takes on those characters. I mean, I do, but the movies were bad, not the acting. I liked what they both did, the movies they did it in just sucked.
I will never understand why DCs animation studios can largely be so good but their live action stuff is.....not (WW and Shazam being exceptions for me).
Lex is a prime example, so many of the animated versions of him are done very well but just about every live action take on the character is trash.
Lex is a prime example, so many of the animated versions of him are done very well but just about every live action take on the character is trash.
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And you sold me. I absolutely lament we will never get a chance to see whatever abomination this would produce. It would have been legendary.
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Jared Leto to Play Joker in Zack Snyder’s ‘Justice League’ (Exclusive)
Jared Leto, who played classic DC villain The Joker in 2016’s 'Suicide Squad,' has joined the reshoots for Zack Snyder's new cut of 'Justice League.'
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Jared Leto to Play Joker in Zack Snyder’s ‘Justice League’ (Exclusive)
Jared Leto, who played classic DC villain The Joker in 2016’s 'Suicide Squad,' has joined the reshoots for Zack Snyder's new cut of 'Justice League.'
I feel if Eisenberg was given one more movie where he was Lex, he would have pulled it off. I initially hated his portrayal...but after many subsequent rewatches, the character has grown on me a decent bit.
Came here to post this! hahaahah
What an absolute wreck of a movie this is going it to be, can't wait.
What an absolute wreck of a movie this is going it to be, can't wait.
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Jared Leto to Play Joker in Zack Snyder’s ‘Justice League’ (Exclusive)
Jared Leto, who played classic DC villain The Joker in 2016’s 'Suicide Squad,' has joined the reshoots for Zack Snyder's new cut of 'Justice League.'
Many of you need to watch something other than comic or Star Wars movies if you think this would be anything close to the worst thing in film history.
Start with The Terror of Tiny Town.
Start with The Terror of Tiny Town.
Hard agree. I thought he did a reasonable job given the shitty material and the limited amount if screentime. The tattoos were a colossal blunder, though.
Never mind the hate crimes inspired by Birth of a Nation, the prevlance of McCarthyism in Hollywood, or the countless cases of abuse carried out by powerful figures like Weinstein... Two poorly casted villains being in the same comic-book mini-series would be the worst thing in film history.
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as someone who really likes snyder and most of his movies, including BVS, I don't disagree with the premise of this thread at all. leto was amazingly disapointing as joker and eisenberg, who I like as an actor, was absolutely awful as lex. nearly ruined the movie. just imagining the optics of that movie if it was bryan cranston as some magnetic scene chewing villain. ugghhhhh. why snyder, why?