This needs to be stickied for all conversations like this. Particularly for the second part, but also the first. These laws could be laughed off as twisted relics of times past as it is in other countries if not for that.
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Japanese university students submit petition to Ministry of Justice to raise age of consent from 13 to 16
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This needs to be stickied for all conversations like this. Particularly for the second part, but also the first. These laws could be laughed off as twisted relics of times past as it is in other countries if not for that.
Right. It's not just Japan that's doing this. People on here ought to call out on other countries for the same thing.
Yeah, like don't penalize teens with small age gaps but don't let much older folks take advantage of them
Thanks for the insight.
Though this
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Age of consent laws are complicated.
And by 'complicated' I mean that the amount of effort done to keep the sexual assault of younger women legal or in a 'grey area' or even just less criminal makes me want to kick those responsible so hard they'll be left with permanent sexual complications.
And by 'complicated' I mean that the amount of effort done to keep the sexual assault of younger women legal or in a 'grey area' or even just less criminal makes me want to kick those responsible so hard they'll be left with permanent sexual complications.
Honestly, I remember reading the brain isn't fully developed until way into your twenties. The age of consent should actually be around 25 or something to be sure.
yeah that really stuck out to me as well and had some super seedy undertones
In Germany it's at 14 but EDIT: I remembered the specifics all wrong. Still, it's not just "14 or above is all the same," there are effectively multiple ages of consent and the full one is at 18.
Wikipedia has this:
Sadly the color key is not in the image. Basically light blue to dark blue are 13-16, brown-green is 17, green 18 and yellow is 12. So, er, WTF, Mexico?
Not just that, but in Mexico states Sonora, Campeche and Baja California, the rapist of a minor can marry the victim to avoid jail time.
It is, in fact, not legal to have sex with a 13 year old anywhere in Japan. That's like saying the US doesn't have an age of consent just because it has no federal age of consent. All the prefectures have their own age of consent laws.
Unfortunately, this isn't surprising.
These laws are written by men with little to no input by women.
- The rape law was revised in 2017. But, prosecutors must prove that violence or intimidation was involved or that the victim was "incapable of resistance". I saw the effects it had on my ex-fiancé.
- It took until 2014 for child porn to be banned. And even then, people are only imprisoned for up to one year and fined up to 1 million yen (roughly $10,000).
- It was only last year that convenience stores stopped selling porn magazines. There wasn't even adult section, it was just out in full display. You can imagine that many kids just walked in unattended and saw it.
- Lastly, a friend of mine who was a high school teacher here, had her beasts groped by a student in class. When she complained to the other Japanese teachers (women), they said it was okay because it happened in a safe place. He could experiment. Of course, I don't think this is the norm, but the patriarchy really did a number here.
I was able to buy a few last year at the 7-11 off the station near the nihonbashi line. Only difference between that and the US was in Tokyo it wasn't wrapped (unless it came with a dvd) compared to all the hustlers being covered in our convenience stores.
In Germany it's at 14 but EDIT: I remembered the specifics all wrong. Still, it's not just "14 or above is all the same," there are effectively multiple ages of consent and the full one is at 18.
Wikipedia has this:
Sadly the color key is not in the image. Basically light blue to dark blue are 13-16, brown-green is 17, green 18 and yellow is 12. So, er, WTF, Mexico?
I completely forgot that thai is 15.
I don't know if this redditor is correct, but your article title seems to be extremely misleading.
Students in Japan submit petition to raise age of consent from 13 to 16.
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Age of Consent in Japan's prefectures and territories Most of the prefectures in the country have obscenity statutes or laws against corruption of minors. The age of consent in the prefectures ranges from 16 to 18 years, and it is illegal to engage in sexual activities with partners who are below this age unless a parent approves of the romantic relationship. In Tokyo, for example, a person has to be at least 18 years to agree to have any form of sexual relations. In both of Japan's territories, Okinotori Islands and Marcus Islands, the local age of consent is 13 years.
Except for two uninhabited islands, age of consent in Japan is 16-18 already.
I think he/she is pointing it out because Era has a "WTF Japan", "Japan is so backwards", and "Japan is going to Japan" attitude which is rampant on Era, when in reality it is much more prevalent than a quirk that is limited to Japan. It will be good to raise it so that it matches what prefectural laws have set, the US should consider doing the same, since to the best of my knowledge, like Japan, The United States still has no federal age of consent law, and relies on states to set the age.
This.
13 is clearly to young, but raising it to 18 or above?
Ffs.
Do you guys even remember being 16?
16 year olds can be horny as fuck and you do not want to send 16-17 yr olds to jail and with a sexual offender registry for life for doing something that is perfectly natural.
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This is a really bad and wrong statement to make about folks who dedicate time to teaching overseas. And has nothing to do with this thread. Thanks
Honestly, this surprises me. I thought it was already 18 in Japan, or even 20 since that's the age of majority I believe.
To be fair, I'm pretty sure it's only technically 13 and not actually. But yeah, they definitely should raise it up...
I'm glad you don't lead a country then because you'd effectively make most of the population into criminals.
People are not going to wait to have sex until they're 25 lmao
What kind of Puritan shit is that?
Raising age of consent is a good thing, but it also has to be accompanied by a heavy push for education reform (teaching comprehensive sex ed, consent, and proper contraceptions) and criminal justice reform (eliminating systematic prejudice towards people who want to report sexual crimes) as well.
If this is a joke I don't get the punchline.
Yeah, that's why there are Romeo and Juliet laws to allow for minors to have sex (or, for example, sex between 17 and 18 year olds) without violating age of consent.
Psychologists now understand adolescence to run up to 25 years. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-24173194
We should follow the science. There are serious discussions about how to deal with the implications of this new understanding, especially for criminal justice: https://www.google.com/amp/s/bigthink.com/amp/adult-brain-2632255332
We should follow the science. There are serious discussions about how to deal with the implications of this new understanding, especially for criminal justice: https://www.google.com/amp/s/bigthink.com/amp/adult-brain-2632255332
...so are you actually suggesting the age of consent should be set at 25?
People can drive at 16, but sex only a decade later?
The most safe approach is people at 21+ shouldn't be allowed to have sex with a 16-18.
I think that's how it works in Brazil, age of consent is 14 but only if they are both underage.
Imagine resorting to whataboutism to defend loli culture. Its reprehensible everywhere
I know you mean well here but how is that going to be motivation for legislature to change when an 18 year old and a 25 year already have a similar routine of life?
This is progress, good job for them!
A friend of mine told me that sexual violence is severely underreported in Japan, and just as the article that's posted, molestation is sadly too common.
Victims fear reporting their case and if they do, the police belittles them. She also says it's hard to build an identity there [as a woman]. Of course her words doesn't speak for all of Japan, but I can't disagree when you hear the messed up stuff (Shiori Ito's case, Medical universities admission scandals, chaku-ero fetish...etc).
A friend of mine told me that sexual violence is severely underreported in Japan, and just as the article that's posted, molestation is sadly too common.
Victims fear reporting their case and if they do, the police belittles them. She also says it's hard to build an identity there [as a woman]. Of course her words doesn't speak for all of Japan, but I can't disagree when you hear the messed up stuff (Shiori Ito's case, Medical universities admission scandals, chaku-ero fetish...etc).
Keep in mind while Japan does have problems in regards to sexual assault and pedophilia it's misleading to say its Age of consent is 13
It's really the lowest it can go as far as i know in every prefecture except places where's there's no people It's set at least 16 which is not far off from some states in America and other first world countries
Still good but won't actually change nuch
It's really the lowest it can go as far as i know in every prefecture except places where's there's no people It's set at least 16 which is not far off from some states in America and other first world countries
Still good but won't actually change nuch
I don't think it is wrong for the age of consent to reflect the reality in which young people are living, even though 13 does strike me as very young.
My home country of Belgium changed the age of consent a couple of years ago from 16 to 14 years old, but with a 5 year max. difference. The idea being that we don't want to criminalize what is "normal behavior" for teenagers.
This of course doesn't mean that we shouldn't protect teenagers from sexual predators, though I believe there are better ways to do so. Starting off with better sex education in schools and access to contraceptives as well as harsh punishments for sexual predators.
Japan has its fair share of problems in regard to the way they sexualize younger girls and sexual harassment is rampant unfortunately. Though, raising the age of consent seems like a meaningless symbolic gesture to me, that won't actually solve anything.
My home country of Belgium changed the age of consent a couple of years ago from 16 to 14 years old, but with a 5 year max. difference. The idea being that we don't want to criminalize what is "normal behavior" for teenagers.
This of course doesn't mean that we shouldn't protect teenagers from sexual predators, though I believe there are better ways to do so. Starting off with better sex education in schools and access to contraceptives as well as harsh punishments for sexual predators.
Japan has its fair share of problems in regard to the way they sexualize younger girls and sexual harassment is rampant unfortunately. Though, raising the age of consent seems like a meaningless symbolic gesture to me, that won't actually solve anything.
Japan´s actaul age of concent isn´t 13 if you really begin to start looking into it. They actually have one of the strictes such policies on the planet. Having sex with anyone under 18, even if you too are underage, can backfire quickly due to their obscenity laws. Gay sex is also only legel at the age of 18 and they have an abysmal sexual education on top of that. It´s all a giant mess. No one needs to raise anything. The whole thing needs to be sorted out from top to bottom.
The age of consent is 14 in Germany and that one is real. Sounds fine to me.
The age of consent is 14 in Germany and that one is real. Sounds fine to me.
I am not defending loli culture. Heck, I only watched like 2 animes my whole life and don't even really play much Japanese games.
What I am not a fan of is the constant use of racist prejudices whenever it suits your agenda. And these racist prejudices against Asians seem to be pretty fine for many here.