This is still a vile comment.
This is still a vile comment.
Eh, no, dude. Being bullied in school was one of the worst experiences in my life, and it's frankly more vile in Japan because they know no one will do anything about it. I wouldn't wish that on anyone.
That was shockingly hard to read for me. I can only hope his victim is doing alright today.
Not really sure why you think someone should be bullied for the sins of their grandfather. Might want to rethink this.
MikeHattsu put his artist name in the title. He's fairly famous under that.
The fuck is wrong with you?
The January 1994 issue of "ROCKIN' ON JAPAN" (editor-in-chief: Yoichiro Yamazaki) includes a 20,000-word interview with Oyamada, in which he states:
"'The bullying was really severe in my class.'
'And you said that you were among those who did the bullying?'
'Yeah, I was a bully. I was really horrible and cruel, thinking back on it now. I'd like to use my time here to apologize (laughs). I was really harsh.'
'So you did things you shouldn't have.'
'Yeah. They were like crimes against humanity. I'd strip people completely naked, wrap them up in string, force them to masturbate. Make them eat shit. Then I'd backdrop them into it.'"
After reading this interview, a writer named Kiyoshi Murakami penned an article called "Kiyoshi Murakami's Bullying Journey" in the August 1995 issue of Quick Japan.
After some initial interest, he decided he wanted to set up an interview between the bully and the victims, but it never materialized. Instead, it became a personal interview with Keigo Oyamada.
Regarding Sawada-san (pseudonym):
"There was this guy named Sawada-san. He was a pretty big deal*, and he showed up when we were in the second grade. It was a shock to everybody at school (laughs). I mean, when you change schools and you just start abruptly introducing yourself to people like, 'I'm Sawada!' (approximating a speech impediment), everyone's just like, 'Wow! Amazing!'
I got a cardboard box or something and put Sawada-san in it and covered it in duct tape and put air hole-type things around it (laughs), and I said, 'Hey Sawada-san, you alright in there?' and he said 'I'm… alright…' (laughs) So I took an eraser from the blackboard and clapped it around and said 'Poison gas attack!' and then I let him be for a while, but he stopped reacting altogether, so I said 'Oh, shit… what should I do?' So I decided to take some of the duct tape off and watch him from the other side of the room. And suddenly he comes out with a tearing sound and says… oh, what did he say? Something funny. I think it was something like 'mommy…' (laughs) and then everyone laughed at him."
High school days:
"When you're wearing a jersey, anybody can just come and pull it off, but Sawada didn't care about people seeing his dick anyway so he'd just walk around with it hanging out. He had a big dick though, he even did when we were in elementary school, but it got even bigger in high school (laughs). Girls would always react to it, right? So we'd force him to strip and walk around.
For whatever reason, people with disabilities like him liked to hang around in the library. The library was just like a big theme park (laughs). And not just for people in my grade, everybody who was like that could find a spot to hide there. It was as if they had their own little society in there.
Regarding Mr. Murata (pseudonym), the second person who was bullied:
"Murata had been around since elementary school and I knew that he was a little off. Back then we were in different classes so I didn't have a chance to get to know him, but in middle school we were in the same class. He'd do all kinds of weird things. Murata was kind of borderline… it was hard to tell if he was mentally ill or just an idiot and his body was tiny. This guy was like the opposite of Sawada, he was more the type who would internalize his tantrums. Instead of lashing out when he was bullied, he'd slam his head against the wall and say, 'Dammit! Dammit!' (laughs).
"So I did some pro wrestling moves. You can't normally just do a backdrop, right? But he was so light that I could do it on him easily. I was super excited about it. We were all trying out pro wrestling techniques on the guy. I decided to make things interesting so I said, 'I'm gonna do it again.' It didn't feel like I was bullying him, but… well, I guess I was (laughs).
"There were kids in the regular class who would have been in special schools elsewhere. It was private, so things were different. I've known the term 'Down syndrome' since I was in elementary school. There was some kind of school for the disabled behind our school. It's in the countryside near Machida, so there are still some fields left. When I was in high school, we'd all go outside to smoke during our breaks. There was a hill behind the building that we'd go to. Whenever I'd be absently-mindedly smoking cigarettes, those kids from the school for the disabled would be running a marathon. The boys wore dark blue jerseys and the girls wore light blue jerseys and they'd be running. And they had Down syndrome.
So one time I said 'Hey, a kid with Down syndrome is running' while I was smoking. Then another kid with Down syndrome ran by, but people with Down syndrome all have the same kind of face, right?
And so I said, 'What? Didn't he already go by?' (laughs). He was maybe a little bit bigger than the first one. After that, one of the kids with Down syndrome dressed in dark blue ran past with kind of a pitter-patter and I said 'Is that one a girl?' (laughs). So there were ten people running, some big, some small, all with the same exact face. I said 'wow!' (laughs)."
"I (the interviewer) called Murata-san's house. His mother answered. I was told that Murata-san is now working as a live-in clerk at a pachinko parlor. He attended a regular high school after leaving Wako.
His mother said, 'When he was in middle school, he honestly thought about killing himself. But you talk to your child and figure out a way to fix things. My son also had the kind of personality that encouraged bullies. Oyamada-kun seems to be doing well for himself.'
I (the interviewer) was able to meet up with Sawada-san at one of the finest residences in Denenchofu. According to his mother, he has a 'learning disability.' The only responses he gives are "yes" and "okay" and only to his mother. He currently attends calligraphy and pottery classes at a nearby health care center twice a week. He has not successfully integrated into society.
His mother said, 'It's only gotten worse since he graduated. He only sees people that he knows anymore. I thought that he was on good terms with Oyamada-san.'
'Would you be willing to talk with Oyamada?'
He sat in silence and looked at his mother.
'Did you get along with Oyamada-san?'
'Yes.'
A few days later, I received a call from his mother saying that they would not be comfortable with the discussion.
The following is a quote from a conversation between Kiyoshi Murakami and Keigo Oyamada at the end of the article.
"KM: 'If you could open up a dialogue with them, what would you talk about?'
KO: 'I mean, there's really nothing to talk about. (Laughs). I dunno. I feel like if I met them now I'd definitely talk to them exactly like I used to. I don't know... I don't think there'd be any bullying.' Stuff like, 'what are you up to now?' (Laughs). 'So you're working at a pachinko place now, huh?' (Laughs). 'Picking up balls?' (Laughs).' I think it'd just be stuff like that.'
KM: 'Would you prefer not to meet with them if you had a choice?'
KO: 'Me? I don't think I'd wanna meet up with Murata-san, although it would probably be interesting. I would like to meet Sawada, though.'
KM: 'So there's no one in particular that you definitely wouldn't want to see?'
KO: 'What's going on here? I mean, was I really a bully?'
KM: 'The distinction is ambiguous.'
KO: 'That's what I'm not sure about. Is it really bullying? I definitely did some bad things.'
KM: 'Have you come to a conclusion about whether or not you're guilty?'
KO: 'Nah… but I wonder if everyone is like this. People who bully others. I, for example, can talk about it without feeling any guilt at all.'
Wait, why would you hope for more innocent kids to get bullied? That's fucked up. Let's not hope for that.
Fucking disgusting monster. I posted about this in the Japanese music thread a couple days ago, and I was really hoping some western outlet would pick it up.
I can't see more of the Telegraph article, so I don't know how much they talk about, but here's the blog I posted in the music thread with lots of quotes from the interviews. It is really horrific, and I can't state that enough. You can use deepl to translate it pretty accurately into English if you don't know Japanese.
Oh, good. I didn't see the threadmark until now. May as well just quote that post in the OP so people are sure to see it.I've only seen some proper details in that Telegraph article, other ones have been more vague and focused on the apology, like AFP:
Olympic Opening Ceremony Composer Apologises Over School Bullying
A composer for the Tokyo Olympic opening ceremony has apologised after an outcry over old interviews in which he discussed bullying disabled schoolmates, the latest scandal for organisers.www.barrons.com
Telegraph article doesn't go into more details than what I posted in the OP.
That blog you've posted seems to be the one that's been translated in that blogspot blog post.
It is the same bullying you would find else where. Just couple bullying with a lot of studying and you get health issues.Off-topic to an extent, but I've always wondered if the Japanese high school experience as portrayed in their media is anywhere close to being real. Like the level of bullying portrayed is eerily similar to what he says he did.
I'd be interested to see if he's done anything recently in terms of atoning via charity work etc.
Then again, the Tokyo Olympics committee hasn't been the best about anything. They are actually trying to find a Ugandan Athlete who ran off after saying he wants to stay in Japan. Not to mention that they're having an honor system set up for people not to leave their hotels in Ginza. Apparently Athletes, theIOC and others are not doing Quarantine.