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James Mattis Denounces President Trump, Describes Him as a Threat to the Constitution
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Mattis holds ton of regard with the military, officers and rank and file. His silence afterwards was a virtue by everyone not hating Trump already. That he speaks now will hold greater weight for the election than during his resignation.
This seems more like him sending a signal to active military now being used since they probably respect him a lot.
I think this is really meant to get through to military leaders who will likely be deciding whether or not to follow through on orders to attack civilians on US soil in the near future.
He did. His resignation letter is a rebuke of Trump and his foreign policy.
https://www.vox.com/2018/12/20/18150826/james-mattis-resigns-letter-trump-read
Mattis has some ride or die people throughout the country so while I wish he would have done more up to this point this helps.
Yeah, plenty of establishment people came forward about Trump and republicans treated them like traitors.
Words like his don't really mean shit to people like us, but if more respected and decorated former military leaders start speaking out it will have an effect of military-focused Republicans. I'm related to a few and their tone on Trump has changed dramatically sense the start of the pandemic, and I'm sure the past week hasn't helped. One of my cousins who is currently serving even just changed his party affiliation to Independent which I NEVER thought would happen.
at this point.
THe more people speaking out the better.
they may be ass holes for not doing it sooner.
but the more people go against orange niro, to get him out, the better
THe more people speaking out the better.
they may be ass holes for not doing it sooner.
but the more people go against orange niro, to get him out, the better
There's no changing anything from the inside with Trump. His insanity overrides all logic proposed by compotent people.
These are Trump co-conspirators trying to distance themselves from what's going down. Not gonna work.
I have faith that tribunals and trials are coming for a lot of people.
I have faith that tribunals and trials are coming for a lot of people.
Disgruntled former employee shit talks former boss, that's all
Trump will denounce him back and the MAGAs will pretend they never liked him. Progressives will continue to shit on him.
Probably just the moderates will embrace him, like Mueller
Trump will denounce him back and the MAGAs will pretend they never liked him. Progressives will continue to shit on him.
Probably just the moderates will embrace him, like Mueller
That's right, we should just quit our jobs and let someone less competent and more egotistical take over. Rather than holding on to the leash trying to prevent the rabid dog from gaining ground, lets just let go of it because our hand is tired and we hope that the rabid dog comes around.
Well it's more or less a means of hand waiving away any sort of valid criticism he may receive from people who were otherwise championed as conservative icons like McCain. It's the same reason why conservatives love using the term "Republican in Name Only" or "RINO" in order to shut down the process of having to think critically.
He's a dissenter, always been a dissenter, and no one should listen to what he has to say because he's a leftist.
A lot of military vets that voted trump or third party or abstained follow Mattis' every word and literally wished he was president. Even had one person describe a scenario to me where Mattis could become President.
This is a big deal, yes, but I do think it is too little, too late. They are a cult, it is what fascism is. And all that matters is the cult and the cult integrity. Those who are cast from the cult ideology, like Mattis, hold virtually little sway to those who remain within the cult. The hope is, his rebuke will reach people who can still be reached, but I'm afraid that at this point, it doesn't matter much. Who exactly is still on board with Donald and the GOP? The true believers, and they are ride or die I'm thinking.
Better late than never I guess, but still.
Better late than never I guess, but still.
YES. The entire right wing media is doing Law and Order, the protestors are actually rioters, and the military may be deployed (and trump wants to deploy them) into U.S soil, and Mattis who is respected near universally among the military basically calls Trump a traitor to the Constitution.
If you dont think this will impact the future of a order by Trump to move American soldiers into our cities, your just plain wrong.
Now you say something? Where were you last year? You said NOTHING and stayed silent. You get no praise from me.
To those saying this is a big deal: what exactly do you expect to come from this?
(This is a serious question, it's not meant to be antagonistic or rhetorical)
(This is a serious question, it's not meant to be antagonistic or rhetorical)
What? Many here on Resetera complain of people who don't quit in protest and delude themselves into thinking they can change Trump's mind.
Wish he said something sooner, but still nice to see nonetheless.
Gonna have to be what it is then because my black ass is sick of seeing it and arguing with jokers on fb. Goddamn CEO is a shitheel, why would I want to support his platform?
Mature leadership or no, I think this still would have happened.
Would mature leadership have shut down the school to prison pipeline and abolished private prisons? Would it have put a stop to theories with severe racial bias like Broken Windows Policing? Would it have taken seriously the issue of police response to mental health crisis? I doubt it. I think these protests were inevitable regardless of who would have been leading the US.
Trump doesn't even have to pretend. He can talk shit all day long about various aspects and his support will not noticeably change.
Former Defense Secretary Gen. James Mattis roasts Donald Trump: 'I earned my spurs on the battlefield'
The former secretary of defense spoke in New York City on Thursday.
abcnews.go.com
It adds to the list of respected figures among the right denouncing Trump with strong rhetoric. A former US General and Sec of Defense under Trump basically compared him to the Nazis, that's a big fucking deal.
That's the unfortunate truth as well. I had the impression from Mattis's resignation that he was no longer able to hold that lease anyway and Trump was about to cut him off anyway.
Good to see, those who are/were in high positions in the military and DoD need to speak out now more than ever.
Former Defense Secretary Gen. James Mattis roasts Donald Trump: 'I earned my spurs on the battlefield'
The former secretary of defense spoke in New York City on Thursday.
Not good enough. Go testify on the hill. Demand he resign. Mocking him isn't speaking out.
To clarify, I mean quitting facebook as an employee, not a user of the platform. Quitting the platform is a completely valid form of protest that could (in mass) have tangible change.
Quitting facebook the job if you are in a position to influence change is not the way to go, IMO.
Regardless of your opinions of Mattis, this is still good. We've got to take the wins as they come and not get fixated on things we can't change in past. Hope to see more and more examples of this.