I have read and watched a ton about it over the years.
This movie has barely anything to do with it
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I've met literally zero people who enjoyed "Once Upon a Time... in Hollywood". What a fucking awful movie.
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This movie has barely anything to do with it
Great movie, not for everyone.
I notice, throughout all of your threads, there's this common element of negativity for shit you don't like, then you just chalk the thing up to being terrible just because *you* personally said it is.
Nah, doesn't work like that.
I notice, throughout all of your threads, there's this common element of negativity for shit you don't like, then you just chalk the thing up to being terrible just because *you* personally said it is.
Nah, doesn't work like that.
It's like (bad analogy TYME) a cup of hot chocolate. It won't work in hot weather -- but when you feel the kind of chill it aims to alleviate, it will proceed to do just that.
Soak in the cultural conversation it's entrenched in and you may find the movie in this. It is pretty much a non entity without some investment in Tate and 60s Hollywood hippy zeitgeist.
It is a what-if tribute filled with love for the star doomed to fade, to be forgotten. The whole movie suggests, 'Cinema will never forget, and can sometimes reveal the best out from us.' Just one big hug.
Soak in the cultural conversation it's entrenched in and you may find the movie in this. It is pretty much a non entity without some investment in Tate and 60s Hollywood hippy zeitgeist.
It is a what-if tribute filled with love for the star doomed to fade, to be forgotten. The whole movie suggests, 'Cinema will never forget, and can sometimes reveal the best out from us.' Just one big hug.
conversely I haven't met a person who disliked it, though tbf I only know maybe half a dozen other people who have seen it
Ah. I suppose it also may require some sort of nostalgia for that particular era in Hollywood, but then again since I haven't seen it yet I can't really do anything but guess.
Even if they did know about the events, it still wouldn't really make the movie better.
The funny thing is I saw the 2nd season of Mindhunters just a few days before the film, and it's the same guy playing the same character in both films
The movie's problem is not that it's a "nothing" movie, with no real narrative. Cohen Brothers make that kind of film all the time and yet people don't really dislike it having no real plot, it's that it lacks the special factor that makes movies like Big Lebowski, No Country, Fargo etc so amazing.
The movie's problem is not that it's a "nothing" movie, with no real narrative. Cohen Brothers make that kind of film all the time and yet people don't really dislike it having no real plot, it's that it lacks the special factor that makes movies like Big Lebowski, No Country, Fargo etc so amazing.
In my experience this was one of his more broadly appealing movies. I know quite a few people who I didn't expect to even go see it, let alone enjoy it. Especially older people.
If their biggest complaint was "I don't get why they wasted so much time on Margot Robbie's character" it kind of would
I loved it. Almost certainly a top ten of 2019 for me and easily my favorite Tarantino film in a long time. I've only seen it the once, though, so I'm curious how well it holds up on repeat viewings.
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So if you don't like a tarantino movie in 2019 you're not an intellectual i guess ? He stopped being the cool indy thing 20 years ago you know.
Then how could you say "There's no tension" unless you already knew how the movie was ending.
Not even during the ranch scene?
If this was the worst piece of media you consumed in the entire year of 2019, you are living the most privileged life possible.
Why do people keep saying this like it matters? A movie is not good or bad based off of this
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I know my preferences extremely well and I have an easy time avoiding bad games and books, at least lately. It's a bit harder when it comes to movies because I absolutely refuse to watch trailers, as they're too revealing 99% of the time.
Its one of his best movies to be honest. Fantastic acting. Great Tarantino-esque dialog. And especially the ending was so amazing and a beautiful love letter to Sharon Tate. On top of that it is a fascinating journey into Tarantino's own mind and the struggle between having affection for the old but understanding why it needs to change.
Same here. I thought the movie was great but that scene is a huge mistake. It only exists because Tarantino misremembered what was said in a book. Such a giant fuck-up.
I always feared the movie wouldn't work internationally because the tension only exists if you think you know what's coming. It's a movie that builds up to a traumatic moment in American history before rewriting that history. If you know nothing about the tragedy, yeah, there's not going to be much tension.
Edit: I see you said you knew about the events, but I think most non-Americans wouldn't. I'm surprised you felt there was no tension though in that case.
That is not even the issue here.
She barely does anything in the movie and the stuff she does do is ultimately pointless. She has the least amount of presence in the movie compared to other characters . QT should have given her more screen time considering the RL events. Ultimately even if people knew about those events, it wouldn't really matter because the movie fails to make her interesting.
I just watched this yesterday! I enjoyed it, but I have very mixed opinions on it. The direction and characters were overall great, as they should be with Tarantino. I was pretty enthralled with most of the time watching the movie. It's well shot, and DiCaprio/Pitt are great.
The theme and the Sharon Tate stuff was weird, though. As an alt-history exercise I loved Inglorious and Django. Those felt like they were for large groups of people and fantasies based on events that a lot of people obviously remember and can empathize with. They also don't really rely on outside knowledge to work. You see how the slave owners fucking suck and you see how the nazis suck within their respective movies. With this movie the Sharon Tate murder, while tragic, is just so specific of an event to base an alt-history fantasy on that it's not terribly enticing.
Within this movie Tate is an non-character. Her scenes were charming I suppose, but I feel nothing about her. The Mason group is kinda creepy when Pitt's character goes there, but that's about it. You don't learn enough within the movie. So as you approach the ending I think the only thing really giving tension is knowledge that Tate gets murdered. Then you have the swerve and she doesn't here. They kill the hippies, the end. If you know nothing about Tate then this is just a strange fucking ending. And if you know the ending of the movie then it also doesn't work. One of the few times I think a spoiler could actually ruin the movie in a big way.
Some people talk about it giving Tate the life she deserved or something, but you get none of that in the movie. It's about two other random dudes, not her at all.
The theme and the Sharon Tate stuff was weird, though. As an alt-history exercise I loved Inglorious and Django. Those felt like they were for large groups of people and fantasies based on events that a lot of people obviously remember and can empathize with. They also don't really rely on outside knowledge to work. You see how the slave owners fucking suck and you see how the nazis suck within their respective movies. With this movie the Sharon Tate murder, while tragic, is just so specific of an event to base an alt-history fantasy on that it's not terribly enticing.
Within this movie Tate is an non-character. Her scenes were charming I suppose, but I feel nothing about her. The Mason group is kinda creepy when Pitt's character goes there, but that's about it. You don't learn enough within the movie. So as you approach the ending I think the only thing really giving tension is knowledge that Tate gets murdered. Then you have the swerve and she doesn't here. They kill the hippies, the end. If you know nothing about Tate then this is just a strange fucking ending. And if you know the ending of the movie then it also doesn't work. One of the few times I think a spoiler could actually ruin the movie in a big way.
Some people talk about it giving Tate the life she deserved or something, but you get none of that in the movie. It's about two other random dudes, not her at all.
It's probably my least favorite Tarantino film, but I enjoyed it. Just never gonna watch it again, I guess.
You can count on Imp the Dimp for incredibly hyperbolic negative "takes".
You can count on Imp the Dimp for incredibly hyperbolic negative "takes".
Im sorry you feel that way, op. The movie is an interminable slog that I saw twice. It is quite excellent.
I didn't like it. The only scenes I enjoyed were when brad went to the ranch and demanded to see the previous owner, and the last 20 mins of the movie.
Tarantino is losing his touch. Didn't like the hateful 8 either. His last great classic movie was inglorious basterds for me.
Tarantino is losing his touch. Didn't like the hateful 8 either. His last great classic movie was inglorious basterds for me.
You live a very, very sheltered life if you think OUAT is anywhere near the worst film of the year.
I watched it last night and thought it was phenomenal. Great acting from Pitt and Leo, great sets and directing, and what an ending. I guess if you're clueless about the actual history of the story you might be a little lost and not "get" the ending or the name of the movie.
