Haven't played the new Demon's Souls or own a pS5, but what about summons? Game should be busy right now, and if you have a friend, even better to control the pace and the amount of help
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I've come to the conclusion that hard games like Demon's Souls aren't for me.
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I've only played Bloodborne and a little of Dark Souls and I've loved both, but I can see where you're coming from. I played Bloodborne when it released and am just now getting around to Dark Souls because of how intimidating the genre is for me as a casual fan.
Just got past the Capra Demon and that's the only boss so far that has really gotten under my skin. A lot of my other deaths have been my fault, but the Capra Demon felt slightly unfair. I'm sure it's just because I'm a beginner, but I definitely got worked up.
Just got past the Capra Demon and that's the only boss so far that has really gotten under my skin. A lot of my other deaths have been my fault, but the Capra Demon felt slightly unfair. I'm sure it's just because I'm a beginner, but I definitely got worked up.
Sell it or give it to a friend who will get something out of it.
I've heard stories of people playing these games, not getting it, and then coming back years later and loving them. So maybe it'll click for you someday.
I've heard stories of people playing these games, not getting it, and then coming back years later and loving them. So maybe it'll click for you someday.
I don't mind difficult games (112% HK, and also everything in celeste minus a few goldens), but I just cannot stand how Souls games handle. The whole process just feels floaty & weird, especially when you slash an enemy and the blade just kinda runs through them. There's an odd imprecision that doesn't gel with me.
To each their own.
It's the clowning around to prove that their taste accounts for an objective marker of quality that irks me.
Personally, I could not get into real time strategy and certain sports titles, despite knowing how great they can be depending on the title and the folks who love them.
It's the clowning around to prove that their taste accounts for an objective marker of quality that irks me.
Personally, I could not get into real time strategy and certain sports titles, despite knowing how great they can be depending on the title and the folks who love them.
Oh yeah, I just mean that your issue is definitely the game design itself, and not just difficulty, if you like Ninja Gaiden.
Same. I don't play a game to hate my time playing it. Fallen Order is about as deep into the "challenging" game genre that I'll sink at this point.
And there's nothing wrong with that. People come to games for different reasons. I do wish Souls games offered more difficulty options so more people could enjoy them on their own terms, but as it is, there's nothing wrong with avoiding them for this reason.
Took me about 2 hours of playing Bloodborne to figure out I couldn't see the appeal and the fun and never played it again or any similar games for that matter.
There's definitely at least one major horror moment in TLOU2, which scared the shit out of me. Wasn't a jump scare either which made it worse haha.
I felt that way maybe the first few hours until I started figuring the game out and I'm enjoying it a lot. I honestly think everyone who struggles with these games can have that moment where it clicks and it feels like you're on the other side of a bill hill.
I also told myself I just spent $600+ On a PS5 and just this game, I'm going to figure this out.
I also told myself I just spent $600+ On a PS5 and just this game, I'm going to figure this out.
I don't really seek out hard games, but the souls games offer a lot beyond difficulty that draws me in.
I think I'm the same as I DESPISE losing any progress in my games.. with 100 days (how long to beat) backlog on PS4 and Switch alone, it just feels wasteful to struggle with a boss or something...
that in mind, i bought Bloodborne in a sale for a tenner as I want to try a Souls title at least one time before confirming that I hate them (at least I expect i will) Is there anything I should keep in mind when starting the game or just in general to avoid as much frustration as possible
btw i absolutely loved Jedi Fallen order which was described to me as being a bit like the Souls Games but it was never actually hard or frustrating so I guess that is not true?
that in mind, i bought Bloodborne in a sale for a tenner as I want to try a Souls title at least one time before confirming that I hate them (at least I expect i will) Is there anything I should keep in mind when starting the game or just in general to avoid as much frustration as possible
btw i absolutely loved Jedi Fallen order which was described to me as being a bit like the Souls Games but it was never actually hard or frustrating so I guess that is not true?
Not for me either, I *really* tried to enjoy Dark Souls back in the days but it never clicked. Worst, I rage quit a few times (something I usually never do lol) and just decided not to touch this genre ever again.
And yeah I love the way these games look and I love their atmosphere, so I admit it's a bit frustrating :(
And yeah I love the way these games look and I love their atmosphere, so I admit it's a bit frustrating :(
I would love them if they let me repeat boss fights without clearing out the areas before them.
I can beat tlou grounded and i beat the valkyrie quwen in gow, I can play fps on hardest difficulties without a lot of dying, but this genre is just too hard and punishing for me :/
I would love if they had an easier mode so I could finish them.
I can beat tlou grounded and i beat the valkyrie quwen in gow, I can play fps on hardest difficulties without a lot of dying, but this genre is just too hard and punishing for me :/
I would love if they had an easier mode so I could finish them.
This exactly!
I have no issues with difficult games, If you died and restarted where you were at, like say a boss I'd have no issues at all. Even if it took me 50 tries to beat the boss.
But in Demon's Souls some of the boss runs are long.
Should have known after not clicking with Bloodborne. But I bought demon's digitally so I'm going to try it again at some point.
Demon Souls would still be a bad game regardless of the difficulty. Make it a little easier and you're still left with the clunky ass controls and a time sink of a game.
For posters trying to claim aging as some kind of deterrent towards enjoying this style of game, how old are you really?
I'm 6 weeks away from my 37th birthday and I don't feel like my dexterity or lackthereof is in any way hindering my enjoyment of Souls games. Hell, my father just turned 60 this summer and he's slowly prodding his way through Bloodborne.
if you want to say your life has changed and you don't have the time/desire to replay areas over again, I get that. I completely reject the notion of "I'm too old and broke down to be good at this game"
I'm 6 weeks away from my 37th birthday and I don't feel like my dexterity or lackthereof is in any way hindering my enjoyment of Souls games. Hell, my father just turned 60 this summer and he's slowly prodding his way through Bloodborne.
if you want to say your life has changed and you don't have the time/desire to replay areas over again, I get that. I completely reject the notion of "I'm too old and broke down to be good at this game"
They are kinda similar to horror games for me, where I have to be in the mood for them, but I really enjoy when I am. Very few feeling in gaming as good after finally beating a challenging boss whose been beating your arse for hours. Amazing high, but incredibly low lows and they all have a lot of shit too, which I just hate and find no enjoyment in, usually just 1 or 2 areas, but just fucking miserable at times.
That's part of the reason why it feels difficult too, clunky camera, clunky controls, cheap a.i. The amount of times I'm in a tight corridor and it feels like I'm fighting the camera more than the enemies.
It's not good game design, I think people are hyped because it looks great, or because people are sentimental.
It's games like Demon's Souls that make me wish PSN had a returns policy.
P.S before anyone jumps on me, it's my opinion. We all like different things. I've learnt an expensive lesson and I won't buying Elden Ring!
Sekiro has checkpoints pretty close to bosses, at least way more than Souls games. You could try that one out some day to see if you enjoy it.
I love all the souls games. They can be frustrating but once you get the mechanics down they can be pretty exploitable and eventually you end up way more powerful then anything else in the games
For me I don't find PvP very fun in games, the competitiveness gets my pulse going to wild and I get on edge.
For me I don't find PvP very fun in games, the competitiveness gets my pulse going to wild and I get on edge.
Nothing to feel strange about OP, they aren't for many people. Me included.
The Soulsbourne games remain relatively niche in appeal, although on an enthusiast forum it might not feel that way. This particular remake is getting prominence because it's a first-party, next-gen only experience, not because it's unanimously loved.
The Soulsbourne games remain relatively niche in appeal, although on an enthusiast forum it might not feel that way. This particular remake is getting prominence because it's a first-party, next-gen only experience, not because it's unanimously loved.
It's why I haven't spent 89.99 on it lol. I'd love to for the visuals alone, but I can't spend close to 100 bucks on a game that I know will frustrate me and that I'll probably never finish.
No, but if a game/genre aint for you, it ain't... It happens, and that's ok. The whole point of playing games is to enjoy them, the moment they feel like a chore or gives you too much frustration, you have to drop them.
In my case, it's impossible for me to play Persona: I can barely manage my own life, and those games expect me to handle someone else's. Screw. That.
In my case, it's impossible for me to play Persona: I can barely manage my own life, and those games expect me to handle someone else's. Screw. That.
It's great that you tried something out of your comfort zone, but it's also totally fine for you to not like it. You are playing games to have a good time and if you aren't then what is the point.
For instance GTA, RDR and AC are technical achievements and have a lot of content, but I just find them incredibly tedious to get through, they aren't bad games they just aren't for me.
For instance GTA, RDR and AC are technical achievements and have a lot of content, but I just find them incredibly tedious to get through, they aren't bad games they just aren't for me.
They make me, so frustrated. Especially all the love they get, because I like being in "the know" of games, so I don't want to shut out these experiences. So I find myself forcing my way through them and cursing everyone that loves them every hour or so.
If you love these types of games infallibly, I have probably inadvertently cursed you out at some point... so I'm sorry.
There is a fine fucking line though of TERRIBLE GAME DESIGN and "FUN REWARDING CHALLENGE" that these games skirt heavily. It's not always flawless fun. Running around a dark hallway no idea where the fuck I'm going, getting one shot by some glowing creature that can stun lock you through walls and then losing all your souls is not always enjoyable.
But I do find myself crawling back after I swear them off... there is something enjoyable about them.
If you love these types of games infallibly, I have probably inadvertently cursed you out at some point... so I'm sorry.
There is a fine fucking line though of TERRIBLE GAME DESIGN and "FUN REWARDING CHALLENGE" that these games skirt heavily. It's not always flawless fun. Running around a dark hallway no idea where the fuck I'm going, getting one shot by some glowing creature that can stun lock you through walls and then losing all your souls is not always enjoyable.
But I do find myself crawling back after I swear them off... there is something enjoyable about them.
Yeah, I would definitely buy the Demon's Souls remake at full price if I knew it had a lower difficulty level. As it is, I'll be waiting until I can get it used/on discount.
I don't like hard games (think Ninja Gaiden, Bullet hell games, Rogue likes, etc.) but I learned to love the Souls games with Bloodborne.
I think it's just about pacing yourself, methodical progression, and not feeling bad about looking up information or using cheese to beat hard encounters.
I just love the atmosphere of dread and the character building (and lore in BB).
I think it's just about pacing yourself, methodical progression, and not feeling bad about looking up information or using cheese to beat hard encounters.
I just love the atmosphere of dread and the character building (and lore in BB).
And that's totally fine, I like them and platinum them, but for me strategy games is really hard to manage and have a minimum skill to have fun so I don't play them
I recently came to the same conclusion as well. I consider myself a very proficient video game player. I have plenty of platinum trophies under my belt (if that really means anything), and I was at one time a worldwide ranked Soul Calibur II player -- but a game that makes you start from the beginning of the level and play 10-15 minutes just to get back to where you were when you died just to die again is... not fun.
I've realized that I enjoy a challenging game that involves PUZZLES instead of relentless combat. Combat challenges to me aren't fun. A game with wicked puzzles that take a long time to figure out, but are ultimately clever, are more up my alley.
I've realized that I enjoy a challenging game that involves PUZZLES instead of relentless combat. Combat challenges to me aren't fun. A game with wicked puzzles that take a long time to figure out, but are ultimately clever, are more up my alley.
OP, I agree 100%. I bought Demon's Souls because it's such a looker and the aesthetic is right up my alley... but I got pummeled very quickly and I don't like the feeling of being punished for not being good right away. Still, I am going to keep at it and see if I can figure this sucker out (and if I can't hack it, well, there's always Sackboy...)
I actually find these games extremely cathartic and good for my mental health. Really few games give me such a true sense of overcoming adversity like these games do.
Of course we all get different things out if games and that is what makes them great.
Of course we all get different things out if games and that is what makes them great.
Yeah, idk. I love Dark Souls 1 & 3, but I've never really liked Demon's Souls much despite its aesthetic. Point is they're not all made equal and your lack of enjoyment with Demon's isn't wholly indicative of your experience with other titles in the genre.
I think the Estus flasks are just a better system.
I think the Estus flasks are just a better system.
These games chill me out more than any mindless or otherwise easy game can. I get more frustrated playing something like Musou, where my attention and time do not matter, than I ever did playing any Souls game or their derivatives.
Games that require all of my focus and attention just pull me in and occupy me in a way that other games don't, and it leads to a much more relaxed experience than the easier games that I play that hardly hold my attention.
Games that require all of my focus and attention just pull me in and occupy me in a way that other games don't, and it leads to a much more relaxed experience than the easier games that I play that hardly hold my attention.
But that's essentially what people mean that they're too old to deal with games like that these days. They're older which means they have more responsibilities and less time. It's a common association that comes with getting older and that's exactly what people mean by saying it.
Yep. Couldn't finding anything more dull than replaying sections of games over and over until I beat them. Glad I stopped caring about releases like this, and you shouldn't feel bad for it OP.
A well designed game is a well designed game, regardless of difficulty. Soulsborne is just about patience and rhythm.