Cerium, yes. Our head admin was making excuses in Xaszatm's thread.Who are the mods involved in this?
RoyalIan, Morrigan, AliceAmber(?)
I think there's an admin too?
accept your fate
Is that so? Well, it's not like I have direct information. Regardless the response has been a shitshow and that certainly does need to be 180'd.I'll chime in and say that whatever has been flying around about this conversation is largely overstated or over-exaggerated. Granted, I heard it about it second hand, and I have not seen any evidence that the conversation existed or the exact details of said conversation beyond a second-hand account of it. There's a reason I intentionally left all reference to what you're referencing out of my main post.
Gonna requote as well. There is some Iron Law of Institutions trash going on here and it needs to be fixed.Co-signed
And because circumstances compel it, this bears re-quoting endlessly:
WE NEED REFORM ALL THE WAY TO THE TOP.
Like, *any* Discord?
Because I know a Discord with about 80 people that was created when a ton of people jumped ship from another forum that had it's own issues with moderation not being transparent or fair in their dealings with the community. It's not as active as the big several thousand person Discords out there to be sure, but the people there are very genuine and caring and a not insignificant percentage of our group is trans or non-binary.
As a more general response to this topic, I still need to read through everything that's going on but from what I've read so far this is all very disappointing and, again, partially reminds me of a huge mess that functionally destroyed the community on another forum I used to post on. It's not a nice thing to flash back to, to say the least. I can only hope that the moderators that are responsible for all this are ousted and that the rest of the staff will use this as an opportunity to increase transparency and speak with the community as equals instead of making the mistake of towing the line.
Bi erasure, TERFs, acephobes. It's all too common. Even in the trans community, we've got trans people erasing non-binary and other gender non-conforming identities.I will never understand why some people think subsections of their own (already externally vilified) community are beneath them. It is so utterly self-defeating, it drives me crazy.
Youd be a pretty good mod i think especially as a doggo.i used to think i would make for a terrible mod but at this point im not so sure
after we ban the current mods, this should become the new logoI love this thread, and I love you all. I made an avatar for those that need it. I'll make more and take requests.
.Issues like this have always been handled terribly here. And I feel like it's only gotten worse despite years of saying they will do better.
There's a reason why certain communities don't feel welcome here anymore and their respective OTs only get a fraction of the traffic they used to get at the old place. Everyone's moved to Discord.
after we ban the current mods, this should become the new logo
I know there are LGBT mods... and that we are being told that they had some say in some of these responses and actions… Either tell me their judgment is suspect, or they are worried about not towing a line
The mods don't get paid? Where does the Era Clear money go?Also, pay your (new) moderators for the time to actually do a good job
I gotcha. Hope someone's got your back on that in that case. Still, if anyone needs a place to duck down, the offer's still open for me to go and see if I can find/get a server link. This isn't my first rodeo on all this, and I know what it feels like for a community to feel like the people that are supposed to be watching over them are fighting against them instead.I just sort of meant the LGBTQ+ circles around here, I generally don't involve myself in a lot of Era community threads so I'm not as connected with everyone as I feel I should be
Server costs, IIRC, same with ads
"server costs".
welcome back!
the only thing im competent at is shitposting and making bad photoshops
Welcome back! Took long enough to unban you...
your doing a terrible job of unselling yourselfthe only thing im competent at is shitposting and making bad photoshops
and describing a Terminator threesome
i have no administrative qualifications at all
To whoever owns the site
Need help improving those incident reports and root cause analysis? Might add some Fishbone diagrams to that, some historical data, some trend analysis, some risk analysis, and some correction and prevention actions to it, because the punishment was completely unwarranted for.I believe moderation has quite a lot of blanks to fill regarding this incident. After all, I'm an incident manager, this is my job, and I feel like the reasoning provided is not good enough. If I were to write an Incident Report based on the information available to me from both staff and non-staff, it would be sent back to me, with the reason that the Root Cause Analysis is not good enough and does not warrant the punishment given.
well you're more qualified then the current shitheads ;pthe only thing im competent at is shitposting and making bad photoshops
and describing a Terminator threesome
i have no administrative qualifications at all
its really good to see you in the thread, hobbesHello,
Someone messaged me to bring this to my attention. As I understand the situation, a leading community figure in the trans era community was banned for mentioning that chats exist regarding a moderator who expressed discrimination of Asexuals in a private staff-run Discord server/channel.
Most importantly, the allegation alleges that this discrimination was not challenged and even agreed with by other(s). Below are a list of questions I request Administration to answer as best as possible to allow a cleaner discussion regarding the issue.
- Are the allegations made by the banned user true?
- If the allegations are true, what is being done to correct / educate this moderator's behavior and view?
- What specific site rules exist that allow such a ban to occur, given that the incident (the breach of privacy on a Staff discord) occurred off-site, and was simply mentioned in passing in a post?
- Why was the ban permanent rather than shorter?
- Does this breach of privacy warrant such a strong punishment?
- How was the investigation conducted?
- What information was provided that proved misconduct and malicious intent on part of the banned user?
I believe moderation has quite a lot of blanks to fill regarding this incident. After all, I'm an incident manager, this is my job, and I feel like the reasoning provided is not good enough. If I were to write an Incident Report based on the information available to me from both staff and non-staff, it would be sent back to me, with the reason that the Root Cause Analysis is not good enough and does not warrant the punishment given.
With the way that it is currently framed, you have someone who is essentially a whistleblower that became banned BECAUSE they brought forth issues with moderation and discrimination against Asexuals. I want to believe that Era is not this forum of dog shit. I want to believe that all of these Twitter messages I get are wrong, and this place is a safe space for progressive thinking and inclusiveness. Currently, I'm not so sure.
Moderation needs to correct the current view point with something substantial.
P.S.
Lets not do what some people do in the LGBT+ community and talk about how you're part of the community and then belittle and discriminate against the other letters that it stands for.
the only thing im competent at is shitposting and making bad photoshops
and describing a Terminator threesome
i have no administrative qualifications at all
Hobbes, thank you.Hello,
Someone messaged me to bring this to my attention. As I understand the situation, a leading community figure in the trans era community was banned for mentioning that chats exist regarding a moderator who expressed discrimination of Asexuals in a private staff-run Discord server/channel.
Most importantly, the allegation alleges that this discrimination was not challenged and even agreed with by other(s). Below are a list of questions I request Administration to answer as best as possible to allow a cleaner discussion regarding the issue.
- Are the allegations made by the banned user true?
- If the allegations are true, what is being done to correct / educate this moderator's behavior and view?
- What specific site rules exist that allow such a ban to occur, given that the incident (the breach of privacy on a Staff discord) occurred off-site, and was simply mentioned in passing in a post?
- Why was the ban permanent rather than shorter?
- Does this breach of privacy warrant such a strong punishment?
- How was the investigation conducted?
- What information was provided that proved misconduct and malicious intent on part of the banned user?
I believe moderation has quite a lot of blanks to fill regarding this incident. After all, I'm an incident manager, this is my job, and I feel like the reasoning provided is not good enough. If I were to write an Incident Report based on the information available to me from both staff and non-staff, it would be sent back to me, with the reason that the Root Cause Analysis is not good enough and does not warrant the punishment given.
With the way that it is currently framed, you have someone who is essentially a whistleblower that became banned BECAUSE they brought forth issues with moderation and discrimination against Asexuals. I want to believe that Era is not this forum of dog shit. I want to believe that all of these Twitter messages I get are wrong, and this place is a safe space for progressive thinking and inclusiveness. Currently, I'm not so sure.
Moderation needs to correct the current view point with something substantial.
P.S.
Lets not do what some people do in the LGBT+ community and talk about how you're part of the community and then belittle and discriminate against the other letters that it stands for.