It's not shitposting. As has been pointed out, 'Aeris dies' is the 'Vader is Luke's father' of gaming twists. Or would you also argue that people should spoiler tag the original Star Wars trilogy?
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It's Time We Stopped Openly Spoiling Final Fantasy VII (UNMARKED SPOILERS)
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Here's the thing. I would understand someone getting mad at spoilers if a game was stuck on one platform, was not talked about for a long time and had no support until decades later. Like I can understand being mad at Killer7 or 999 spoilers because they are niche games that are rarely talked about except in gaming forums (and even then they have little discussion).
FFVII released on almost everything. It is constantly lauded as one of the best Final Fantasies and JRPGs time and time again by almost everyone. What's someone excuse for not playing it at this point?
FFVII released on almost everything. It is constantly lauded as one of the best Final Fantasies and JRPGs time and time again by almost everyone. What's someone excuse for not playing it at this point?
Uhm what? Pretty sure having things spoiled for a decades old game won't have a substantial impact on the game's sales, Mr. Internet Spoiler Culture Expert. lmao
It's a reference to an infamous forum post about FF13 going multiplatform and how that was a subversion of honor in the Japanese workplace
The OP refers to two audiences: the group of people who've played FF7 before and the group of people who haven't. In a bid to cater to the second group, the OP suggests no more open spoilers for the game.
A bunch of people from the first group are saying this is nonsense, you can't put the genie in the bottle. (As someone from the second group, I actually agree; Aerith Dies is basically the video game equivalent of I Am Your Father at this point.) Presumably you'd have a bunch of people from the second group who could argue their case, except they can't because the thread says it has unmarked spoilers and so they can't come in here if they care about spoilers.
FWIW I've accepted that I'm just going to see FF7 spoilers. I already know the big one; I've known about it since before I cared about FF7. But the reason it took me this long to come into this thread was because I didn't want to unnecessarily spoil myself on anything else, and who the hell knows what people are talking about in this thread until you actually read it.
I think there's a very vast difference between a manga whose series isn't even officially localized past it's fourth part and a 20 year old game that was localized on the spot,
If you're new to the franchise of course I'm not gonna spoil you but that's not an expectation I hold for a culture like this
The game is 20 years old and readily available on modern platforms
I've never played it, never wanted to on any platform it was available on that I owned because I hate the low poly visuals.
I want to play the remake because the CG like visuals appeal to me.
"Stop spoiling the game!"
OP Literally spoils the game in the post.
This will be a good thread.
*Edit.. ah it said unmarked spoilers. I missed that. Regardless the statute of limitations on FF7 spoilers has long past. I'm actually expecting this game to subvert expectations since so many players already know generally what's going to happen. We shall see.
OP Literally spoils the game in the post.
This will be a good thread.
*Edit.. ah it said unmarked spoilers. I missed that. Regardless the statute of limitations on FF7 spoilers has long past. I'm actually expecting this game to subvert expectations since so many players already know generally what's going to happen. We shall see.
Alright, I dunno why you don't want to play the original game but surely entering a thread that says "UNMARKED SPOILERS" was a bad idea.
Game is 20 years old. The remake doesn't erase that. It's part of pop culture in a way.
EDIT: And yeah, you could've played the game. It's not like it's an obscure title that is hard to get by. It's one of the most famous games of all time. You can't put that back in the bottle.
EDIT: And yeah, you could've played the game. It's not like it's an obscure title that is hard to get by. It's one of the most famous games of all time. You can't put that back in the bottle.
I'm all for not spoiling a game's story, regardless of its age. But we have to consider that the remake may not follow the original story 1:1.
Better to err on the side of caution, though. Good thing I haven't beaten the game for myself yet, and the last time I saw a full playthrough was the early 2000's. =X
Better to err on the side of caution, though. Good thing I haven't beaten the game for myself yet, and the last time I saw a full playthrough was the early 2000's. =X
Because it's old and doesn't hold up that well for people that haven't played it before? FF9 holds up well
I don't really buy the "it's old" excuse. Plenty of people I know played it last year and liked it for what it is, so I guess it all depends on personal taste or how far they're willing to go to see if they liked it or not.
Only way to correct this is to change it up in the remake.
Aerith LIVES
Can we get a poll going?
Aerith LIVES
Can we get a poll going?
Damn you, I wanted to watch that movie in the next 20 years or so
This.
Seriously though, expecting people to care about spoiler warnings for a 22 year old well known game is expecting to much. Next you will tell me Luke's father in SW shouldn't be spoiled.
Y'all are so goddamn heartless not abiding by this. How is it too much to ask to ban all discussion so I don't get accidentally spoiled when I join a ff7 discussion.
It's not that hard to be vague about things or spoiler tag them so I can still read everything I want on the internet. For god's sake let me eat my cake and have it too. Also thanks a lot for spoiling Aeriths death right in the OP.
It's not that hard to be vague about things or spoiler tag them so I can still read everything I want on the internet. For god's sake let me eat my cake and have it too. Also thanks a lot for spoiling Aeriths death right in the OP.
See my edit.
I don't really care about the story spoilers posted in the OP, the OG game is ugly to me, visually speaking, obviously limited by that eras technology but still I don't play games I don't find visually appealing.
I think this is how I feel. I will spoiler tag plot points from a game when a remake for an old game or even for old games that don't have remakes, but I don't think it's really realistic to think that everyone would do this.
I mean... they do make it easy 'round here with a button just for spoiler tagging (it's the flag if you've been just typing []>left arrow>spoiler since now).
eh, fair enough, it has it's own appeal and it's significantly different from the remake but that's your personal choice. though you might like it if you gave it a shot imo.
Because it's better than catering to selfish requests to stifle discussion of a historically important game that is easily playable and has been easily playable for the last decade.
Yeah like if someone doesnt know the twist I wont go out of my way to spoil it, but trying to remove the Aeris death from public consciousness is like trying to make people forget that Princess Peach isn't ACTUALLY in that first castle in Super Mario Bros
People are openly spoiling Infinity War only one year after release, I think it's fine to openly talk about one of the most popular video game ever.
Like, I'm not joking, Aerith's death is literally the "Luke I'm your father" of video games, not saying that it's as good or anything, but that even people that never played the game know this scene. Everyone knows. It's like the Fight Club's or The 6th Sense's twist, people know it even before watching it because everyone has heard about it at least once in his life.
Like, I'm not joking, Aerith's death is literally the "Luke I'm your father" of video games, not saying that it's as good or anything, but that even people that never played the game know this scene. Everyone knows. It's like the Fight Club's or The 6th Sense's twist, people know it even before watching it because everyone has heard about it at least once in his life.
I'm just saying. My friend has 0 interest in playing the original because turn based bores him (bores me too tbh lol), so he's excited to play the remake with this combat style.
I think some people are really, really overestimating the number of "kids" who are itching to play this game.
Like, this remake isn't for a new generation; the people that already played it were the ones begging for it for so many years. If it sees new people brought into the fold, that's cool and all, but let's not pretend like that's the reason this project was ever given the green light in the first place.
Like, this remake isn't for a new generation; the people that already played it were the ones begging for it for so many years. If it sees new people brought into the fold, that's cool and all, but let's not pretend like that's the reason this project was ever given the green light in the first place.
Yeah, I am with you OP. Spoiling something has always been a dick move to me, regardless of popularity, cultural status or whatever metric people use. Using spoiler tags is way too hard for most people in here, apparently.
People who rage about spoilers are annoying too, don't get me wrong. It really isn't that important.
People who rage about spoilers are annoying too, don't get me wrong. It really isn't that important.
The fact that you're calling it 'the twist' and somehow think you know the major plot points just shows how dead wrong you are though.
True, even YouTube thumbnails. The best thing is to just avoid the Internet until you can watch other, now it's just life. No one is gonna die.
Imagine projecting so much you call me "egocentric" for asking you not to spoil things for others (I played through FFVII two decades ago, thank you very much. Twice, in fact).
No, really; imagine that, because I can't. Try to imagine calling someone egocentric for saying "let's be nice to another person". I mean... what? :D
Nah. I'm not going to go out of my way to spoil something for someone who has not played the game, but....if it happens it happens.
This got me thinking about the asshole who came out of the theater for Avengers and spoiled the ending to the line, leading to him being beat up or whatever. That is a real dick move, obviously, but how did they know he wasn't just lying as a joke? I think someone in said group who did the beatdown already knew from some other spoiler! That's my theory anyway. Lol.
This got me thinking about the asshole who came out of the theater for Avengers and spoiled the ending to the line, leading to him being beat up or whatever. That is a real dick move, obviously, but how did they know he wasn't just lying as a joke? I think someone in said group who did the beatdown already knew from some other spoiler! That's my theory anyway. Lol.
I have never played a Final Fantasy game in my entire life. I haven't played any video game not on a PC - including portable and phone games in 10 years, I went through a 4 year block of time where I made no video game and even I know about the big twist in FFVII. It's like the Luke I am Your Father of video games man.
That's really... You don't watch movies, read books or play games when you know the twists? You can only enjoy something if you know nothing about what will happen? So you can't watch a movie if you read the book?
So what you're saying is you have no idea how these are presented in game besides a basic knowledge that they happen?
Just wanna point out, it's not strictly a FFVII is ugly thing, it's more that when I got into gaming, 3D PS1 era games just didn't look good to me. I just don't think games with that look from that era hold up compared to the games when I really started gaming, which was middle of the PS2 era.
Of course...going out of the way to spoil it would just signal that the person doing it is a dick. Holding someone accountable for saying something about a 20 year old game that popularized JRPG's in the west is beyond ridiculous.
Perfectly OK to expect someone to not be a dick about it, but it's pretty safe to assume that everyone knows about the game at this point, so speaking about it freely is the norm, not the deviation.
Jokes on you, most people that played the game don't even know the twist and major plot points
Oh you madman what are you doing with that avatar??? The children!!!
