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It's Time We Stopped Openly Spoiling Final Fantasy VII (UNMARKED SPOILERS)
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if you get spoiled on some things, just don't sweat it
if the entire narrative can be ruined with a single spoiler then i find it wasn't very good in the first place
It'll spoil the tv shows ending. Ain't nobody ever seeing the books ending
I have a friend that has played every Final Fantasy game from 10 to 15 by growing up in the PS2 era and has played probably three times as many RPGs as me. I grew up a generation before him and got to play FF7. I didn't spoil it for him but I was amazed he still has no idea about Aerith dying. I think it's neat that a person can go so long and not know such a significant detail in the history of not just FF, but video games. I'll never spoil it for him. YouTube on the other hand will do that to him fairly soon with horrible recommendations from clickbait vids. He's so screwed.
I get it and agree with you 100% OP. I played FF7 for the first time 4ish years ago and I already knew that twist. I was only 18 then. Not born during the peak of FF7's popularity. A new remake is coming out for new FF fans. Would it kill y'all to not scream "AERITH DIES" from the heavens like everyone on the Earth played FF7?
I feel like anything that's basically become a meme now is pushing it. Hell a 20 year old game that has been released multiple times throughout the years shouldn't exactly have spoiler sensitive people getting upset.
I agree with you, it's even harder to avoid spoilers when this game is so fondly remembered as a pioneer of the JRPG. It's like asking somone not to spoil the original matrix when the movie is old and referenced so much culturally.
There's a lot of people without much empathy in this thread. A remake brings in a new audience and potentially young audience who didn't have the opportunity or didn't care about the countless ports because they had no nostalgia for the game. A remake like this is undoubtedly an opportunity to jump in tho. So yes, people should watch out for their spoilers.
I'm disappointed there are so many hostile users in this thread.
I agree with OP. It's a courteous thing to avoid spoilers when a game is about to be re-released. Why not take the tiny amount of effort to use spoiler tags, if there is a chance it will improve someone else's experience? It's just a nice thing to do.
I agree with OP. It's a courteous thing to avoid spoilers when a game is about to be re-released. Why not take the tiny amount of effort to use spoiler tags, if there is a chance it will improve someone else's experience? It's just a nice thing to do.
I'm actually really disheartened that this community is so openly hostile at the idea of preserving one of gaming's greatest moments for those who haven't had the chance to experience it yet.
Like... What the fuck does it matter to you that fans of this game want others to experience it fresh like we did? If that's possible, why would you literally go out of your way to disregard their potential experience and spoil it anyway? I don't understand.
The "decades old" argument is completely irrelevant. THIS game will be brand new, and will definitely be a first, fresh experience for so many people. This is a valid conversation, and the people mocking this thread and telling OP to fuck off have a disappointing lack of empathy.
Like... The fuck is this post? Are we on Resetera or 4chan?
Like... What the fuck does it matter to you that fans of this game want others to experience it fresh like we did? If that's possible, why would you literally go out of your way to disregard their potential experience and spoil it anyway? I don't understand.
The "decades old" argument is completely irrelevant. THIS game will be brand new, and will definitely be a first, fresh experience for so many people. This is a valid conversation, and the people mocking this thread and telling OP to fuck off have a disappointing lack of empathy.
Like... The fuck is this post? Are we on Resetera or 4chan?
One person's spoiler is another person's insignificant plot point.
I for one can't be bothered to legislate for every minor plot point I might mention being a spoiler just because someone who's overly spoiler sensitive thinks it is. And especially for one of the most popular games of all time, that is 20 years old.
I for one can't be bothered to legislate for every minor plot point I might mention being a spoiler just because someone who's overly spoiler sensitive thinks it is. And especially for one of the most popular games of all time, that is 20 years old.
wow way to ruin the movie bro now there is nothing to enjoy about citizen kane
Besides, the real spoiler is that you never actually interact with Sephiroth until the end of the game.
This.. y'all getting ridiculous with your spoiler culture. Guess wat? snape kills Dumbledore
there's that bird squawk scene transition
aw shit, im bad at this
Sephiroth killing Aeris is so ubiquitous of a spoiler that Squaresoft itself included the scene in promotional material for the game.
I have a bad feeling GRRM will die of sleep apnea before we ever see another book.
That's not counting the countless other times they did it, or gaming magazines that referenced it, or other mediums referencing it, etc.
It's actually bonkers to request what's being asked in the OP.
I think the issue is less that the game is over twenty years old (you don't see too many people go out of their way to spoil plot points in Chrono Trigger, Illusion of Gaia, Terranigma, or even Final Fantasy VI) and more that it was a game that sold over 10 million copies and been played by even more since then. It's so ridiculously popular and iconic to gaming as a whole that it's kind of assumed that you already know everything there is to know about it before joining a gaming enthusiast forum.
I mean Aerith's dead body is shown on the fucking box art for christs sake.
I know you say it in jest, but I think the actual big spoiler of FFVII is how Cloud took over Zack's identity. I see plenty of people online who don't seem to have heard of that.
I'm willing to meet halfway on Aerith's death because it's so ubiquitous that people outside of Final Fantasy's circle have heard it, but other spoilers like the whole Zack deal, Sephiroth's true nature, stuff like that should be spoiler tagged because it's not as ridiculously blown up and famous as Aerith's iconic death scene.
I can't believe you spoiled Citizen Kane for me even though I don't know the context of this plot point or the what significance this holds to characters in the film. It's just a meaningless jumble of words that somehow ruins the film!
I think people are misconstruing the people calling out the spoiler culture. The fact of the matter is that people aren't being overly malicious or have any ill intent when they said the they aren't willing tip toe around spoilers. I include myself amongst the people that find it ridiculous that we have to tip-toe around a group of people that have yet to have the game spoiled. The game has been out for 20 years and there are tons of people out there that have yet to experience the game because they weren't around at that time. Having said that, this means that we need to tip toe around every little thing. How is it a fair expectation that people just live catering and coddling to those that have yet to be spoiled. At what point does someone make a law or rule saying X amount of days or years is fair before things are spoiled or X days/years is the requirement before leading up to a remake? It's so unreasonable it becomes asinine. The naysayers on the thread aren't saying that they refuse to be empathetic or sympathetic to the intent. What we are saying is that it's an unrealistic expectation to coddle to the whims of everything in the name of giving someone the "best experience" by not spoiling something. The reality is that we can't coddle or tip-toe around every little thing and be "considerate" all the time.
What if spoiling something for someone actually enhances their experience, and they wouldn't even know the benefit unless they stumbled across it!?!
Even if we all agreed to not spoil new generations about it, try to get the rest of the whole internet to do the same. Also, I'm the hypothetical person who has never played FF7 and got spoiled about Aeris' death, I honestly don't mind knowing about it, hell, I don't even remember when or where I learned about it, and I'm interested on playing the remake because I know the game is more than just that specific plot point. The thing is pop culture among video game players, can't do much about it.
You're expecting an enthusiast board to talk cryptically about a game that has been a defining cultural centerpiece for decades. This isn't some obscure thing getting brought into the spotlight - it's still one of the most widely identifiable games ever made.
That I can agree with, mainly because of how out of the way that scene is. I had to have it pointed out to me because there's no logical reason to reach the in-game scene trigger.
I totally agree.
People tend to forget that there are people who enjoy games today who weren't born yet in 1997 (which is fair if you realize that the majority of ERA users are in their 30s or even older). By the time they were into gaming, FFVII is already too old for them. FFVIIR is going to be a lot of people's first FFVII experience, and as old fans it'd be best if we respect them.
We're better than the toxic gamers community out there, aren't we?
People tend to forget that there are people who enjoy games today who weren't born yet in 1997 (which is fair if you realize that the majority of ERA users are in their 30s or even older). By the time they were into gaming, FFVII is already too old for them. FFVIIR is going to be a lot of people's first FFVII experience, and as old fans it'd be best if we respect them.
We're better than the toxic gamers community out there, aren't we?
I never played it past the first 20 mins, and I found out about 15 years ago the main twist.
At this point IMO its like saying Bruce Willis is a
or Brad Pitt from Fight Club is really
At this point IMO its like saying Bruce Willis is a
handsome man
attractive
I'm sure the idea of a young gamer experiencing that for the first time could in theory be a cool moment, but like, it's still a remake of a 20+ year old title. It's a game being made for the likes of us who played this game when it was relevant and grew up with it. Today's youth is just along for the ride.
This shit too. Cloud and Sephiroth are both garbage. The flashback scene is hilarious because it completely clowns both characters.