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It's time we move away from 'rolling' in games.
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We need to add rolling to first person games as well. Keep the view from your character's eyes through the roll.
Keep rolling!
The one and only time Fred Durst was right about something.
As far as I can tell, after seeing "immersion" bandied about for a decade, is its some sort of "know it when I see it" verisimilitude thing, where immersion being broken is always an unforgivable sin even though I've never felt "immersion" once in my lifetime playing games. Dodgerolls are the bridge too far in terms of controls in this particular instance.
Admittedly, as someone said before, the "ohshit" scramble that happens in some games (Resident Evil Revelations 2 had a short side-hop as the dodge maneuver) might fit it better than a perfect gymnast dive, tuck, and roll, however, at the same time, I've never felt a roll feel terribly out of place--maybe because I've seen a lot of shitty action films with dumb tactical rolls all the time. Plus, yeah, most game heroes are generally athletic enough that it never reels like "this don't really seem like something they could do".
Both honestly felt equally finicky in my opinion. Could just be I suck at the game (spoiler: It is because I in fact suck at the game).
Can we get rid of fast travel in video games? As someone that can't fast travel irl, it really breaks immersion any time the feature is presented in video games.
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Why do some of you get bothered by the most insignificant things so much?
Because they have no argument. It's one of those dumb things people say to really mean they don't like a thing. Meanwhile all the other unrealistic things, HUDs, and pausing during inventory navigation, and other game-y things are perfectly fine with them
The key thing about rolling is that it clearly changes the silhouette of the character, giving a visual tell to a gameplay state change.
"Quick stepping" is terrible for that.
EDIT: ^^^ cartwheeling (or a round off in the above image) is great for clear silhouette change as well.
"Quick stepping" is terrible for that.
EDIT: ^^^ cartwheeling (or a round off in the above image) is great for clear silhouette change as well.
What if instead of eliminating there were more games where you controlled a ball? Infinite rolling.
What if the quick step was accompanied by a Kermit the Frog arm flail? That'd break up the silhouette as well.
Bloodborne dodge is great, I do prefer that animation over rolling.
But let's just go full ninja in all games instead
But let's just go full ninja in all games instead
Not far enough. We need all games to measure our height, weight and obesity to get a closer account of our bmi and general fitness level to determine if we can even do anything the game asks of us.
I appreciate it when games offer a quickstep as the dope-looking showoff fast dodge move, but you can double-tap the quickstep to roll in case you really need to create some distance
I really liked how Ghost of Tsushima handles this, where 1 tap is a dodge and 2 taps is a roll. Of course it makes two quick dodges harder to pull off, but the game usually doesn't require so much fast dodging around.
Looks way better than a roll wouldve, definitely agree with OP here.Bloodborne Ludwig Charge Dodge GIF by Kaneda18 | Gfycat
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It feels like your character is more skilled as well. You're upright, keeping your eye on the opponent and able to respond with a quick counter. Rolling in comparison is throwing your body on the ground and taking your eyes off your opponent.
Now you're talkin.What if the quick step was accompanied by a Kermit the Frog arm flail? That'd break up the silhouette as well.
Why not a system of different animations that respond to environmental and combat feedback? Sometimes, you really DO need to roll to get out of the way, but sometimes you can just step to the side. I say add more stuff in there, not to replace the roll entirely.
You "everything needs to be realistic and serious looking and immersive!" guys are just the worst, always trying to ruin all the fun for everyone else.
Dark Souls had the Wood Grain Ring change the roll to a ninja flip, we just need more rings to give us different animations.
It's Nero (against Credo, it seems), if that's what you mean.