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Deffers

Banned
Mar 4, 2018
2,402
I clicked on the link for the fusionism material and it sent me to a porn site lol

I've actually gotten more than one person reporting this. I have no idea what's causing it. It looks like someone hijacked the original URL and they haven't updated it.

Sorry about that, y'all. Be careful with the more information links!

EDIT: Google typically works for any given ideology. I'd do that over the More Information links.
 

Shy

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
18,520
220
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Plywood

Does not approve of this tag
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
6,079
Top:

Classical Marxism 62%
Civic nationalism 62%
Individualist feminism 62%
Third Way 62% <-Don't know why, but okay.
Marxist feminism 62%


Worst:

Clerical fascism -50%
Mutualism -75%
Strasserism -50%


Guess I should've been more definitive than a slightly agree/disagree or no opinion on some.
 

Deleted member 7572

User-requested account closure
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
2,041
Your top ideologies are:


Anarcho-communism 100%
Anarcho-syndicalism 100%
Classical Marxism 100%
Collectivist anarchism 100%
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Green syndicalism 100%
Individualist feminism 100%
Insurrectionary anarchism 100%
Queer anarchism 100%
Communalism 100%
 

Tzarscream

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
2,945
I got:

Classical Marxist
Leninst Marxist
Marxist Feminism

However, a lot of the answers I gave were "in theory/what I'd like to see" but it oversimplifies the issues you'd actually face in terms of implementation or caveats I would have.
 

Parthenios

The Fallen
Oct 28, 2017
13,606
Did anyone look at the data? I can't pull the .CSV on my phone but they have an average for each ideology; looks like Third Way is the highest and Caliphate the lowest.
 
OP
OP

Deffers

Banned
Mar 4, 2018
2,402
Your top ideologies are:


Anarcho-communism 100%
Anarcho-syndicalism 100%
Classical Marxism 100%
Collectivist anarchism 100%
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Green syndicalism 100%
Individualist feminism 100%
Insurrectionary anarchism 100%
Queer anarchism 100%
Communalism 100%

Yeah, here it is again-- if you're anarchist-aligned, you get a big chunk of anarchisms all at once. It's yet another quirk about this little quiz.
 

sphagnum

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
16,058
I get the feeling it's placing way too many people into the Marxism column. An easier way to determine that would have been to ask some specific questions like "Does value in a commodity come from labor?", "Are violent proletarian revolutions acceptable?", "Is there a tendency of the rate of profit to fall?", etc.
 
You broke it, congratulations! You now have a LOT of reading to do. Some of those are things that I'm certain you don't believe in, but it seems like people who lean more anarchist end up getting like dozens of disconnected ideologies
Lol yeah...

Actually you can see the why some of the suggestions but I think the quiz should counter weight ideologies.

I mean a zionist nazi :rollseyes

Hell simply putting queer or feminist ideology near right wing ideas...
 

AmericanKirby

Member
Aug 31, 2018
774
Inside your house
Top:
Anarcho-naturism 75% (Apparently this thing thinks I'm a hippie, lol)
Individualist Feminism 75%
Social Democracy 75%
(Also brought up queer anarchism when taking the quiz previously)

Worst:
Clerical Fascism -33%
Fascism - 20%
Paleoconservatism -40%
 

Deleted member 4783

Oct 25, 2017
4,531
Fussionism led me to know hot singles in my area! Even though I scored -50% there lol
 

Brinbe

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
58,043
Terana
lmfao

Your top ideologies are:
Anarcho-syndicalism 100%
Classical Marxism 100%
Collectivist anarchism 100%
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Green syndicalism 100%
Guild socialism 100%
Insurrectionary anarchism 100%
Communalism 100%
Synthesis anarchism 100%
Neozapatismo 100%
Marxist feminism 100%


Your worst ideologies are:
Classical liberalism -60%
Paleoconservatism -60%
Three Principles of the People -100%
Caliphate -60%
 
OP
OP

Deffers

Banned
Mar 4, 2018
2,402
I get the feeling it's placing way too many people into the Marxism column. An easier way to determine that would have been to ask some specific questions like "Does value in a commodity come from labor?", "Are violent proletarian revolutions acceptable?", "Is there a tendency of the rate of profit to fall?", etc.

I suspect that it does that since it would have to reframe the questions in a lot of other ways if people DIDN'T agree with those ideas. Then again, look how it's breaking for most of the anarchists on here. It seems to really like to stick you with stuff.
 

Aaronrules380

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
22,433
I get the feeling it's placing way too many people into the Marxism column. An easier way to determine that would have been to ask some specific questions like "Does value in a commodity come from labor?", "Are violent proletarian revolutions acceptable?", "Is there a tendency of the rate of profit to fall?", etc.
Yeah there's definitely some truth to that. I also think it's easy for people to give their answers on what they'd ideally like while ignoring practical issues. I also wonder what sort of weighting, if any, is present since you might only disagree with a few issues with a certain ideology, but those issues might be at the very core of said ideology
 

kris.

The Fallen
Oct 25, 2017
3,241
Synthesis anarchism - 88%

Neozapatismo - 83%

Marxist feminism - 88%

Clerical fascism - -50%

Fusionism - -50%

Paleoconservatism - -80%

Fuck Reagan.
 

Hexa

Saw the truth behind the copied door
Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,729
Oooh, neat, you got anti-Mutualism. Mutualism is, historically, one of the antecedents to anarchist thought (though hardly the only claimant to such a position and it persists today though in diminished form). Would you guys say you agree that you dislike anarchism to that extent? You especially, Hexa, since you got another Anarchism as a big dislike. I'm interested to know! Especially since I haven't seen that result before.

I am in favor of strong governance in most matters so I suppose so.
 
OP
OP

Deffers

Banned
Mar 4, 2018
2,402
anarcho-neozapatism-pancasilists rise up

Did you legit get panscalia and anarchism stuff at the same time? Man, that is WILD.


Also how old is this site? Most of the links in the ideologies section are broken or lead to porn sites.

Looks like it came from 2017. I agree it's super fuckin' weird, and I tried to put up warnings not to click the "more information" links. Do you think I should contact a mod about it?
 

Kirblar

Banned
Oct 25, 2017
30,744
I get the feeling it's placing way too many people into the Marxism column. An easier way to determine that would have been to ask some specific questions like "Does value in a commodity come from labor?", "Are violent proletarian revolutions acceptable?", "Is there a tendency of the rate of profit to fall?", etc.
It feels like theres a "what kinda marxist are you!" bent here w way less granularity outside that.
 

House_Of_Lightning

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Oct 29, 2017
5,048
I get the feeling it's placing way too many people into the Marxism column. An easier way to determine that would have been to ask some specific questions like "Does value in a commodity come from labor?", "Are violent proletarian revolutions acceptable?", "Is there a tendency of the rate of profit to fall?", etc.

That requires the quiz makers to know fundamental Marxism tho.

the people who authored the quiz probably authored this

 

Sibylus

Member
Oct 25, 2017
4,728
Classical Marxism 100%
Collectivist Anarchism 100%
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Fourierism 100%
Marxist Feminism 100%

Fusionism -86%
Paleoconservatism -100%
Caliphate -90%

AFAIK fairly similar to the last time I took one of these. No idea how Caliphate keeps coming up as one of my three most-detested, lol.
 
OP
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Deffers

Banned
Mar 4, 2018
2,402
It feels like theres a "what kinda marxist are you!" bent here w way less granularity outside that.

I suspected that, but I didn't really know what kind of ideologies existed outside of Third Way, Classical Liberalism, Kemalism, etc. for this thing to actually stick to, so it seemed kind of on the level to me. Since most people got Third Way anyways, it would *seem* like if that's the goal it was a failure. It's also way too granular about different strains of fascism, conservatism, and authoritarianism in general to seem to be intellectually lazy. Hard to get a read on this one. What kind of stuff would you add?
 

Lant_War

Classic Anus Game
The Fallen
Jul 14, 2018
23,556
This shit thinks I'm a communist, lmao. Got:

- Classical Maxism 100%
- De Leonism 90%
- Marxism-Leninism 100%
- Trotskyism 90%

Worst ideologies:
- Classical Liberalism
- Fusiononism
- Paleoconservatism
 
OP
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Deffers

Banned
Mar 4, 2018
2,402
This shit thinks I'm a communist, lmao. Got:

- Classical Maxism 100%
- De Leonism 90%
- Marxism-Leninism 100%
- Trotskyism 90%

Worst ideologies:
- Classical Liberalism
- Fusiononism
- Paleoconservatism

You didn't even get Third Way on there, hot damn. I suspect you wouldn't say you're a socialist at all?
 

divination

Member
Oct 26, 2017
1,002
Top
Anarcho-naturism 62%
Classical Marxism 62%
Anarcha-Feminism 62%
Guild Socialism 62%
Marxist Feminism 62%

Worst
Minarchism -42%
Paleoconservatism -70%
Paleolibertarianism -42%
 

Deleted member 176

User requested account closure
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Oct 25, 2017
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highest was deleonism at 60%

but more importantly look at these dorks lmao, who could believe in something represented by those pictures
Kz6b3yi.jpg


"Placeholders for dummies"!
 

Aine

Member
May 27, 2019
1,815
Top:
Anarcho-syndicalism 100%
Collectivist anarchism 100%
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Green syndicalism 100%
Insurrectionary anarchism 100%
Synthesis anarchism 100%
Neozapatismo 100%
Marxist feminism 100%


Worst:
Paleoconservatism -90%
Three Principles of the People -100%
Caliphate -90%
 

samoyed

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
15,191
Your top ideologies are:
Classical Marxism 88%
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Fourierism 88%
Marxist feminism 100%

Your worst ideologies are:
Classical liberalism -80%
Fusionism -79%
Paleoconservatism -80%


What I was the last time I took this:
Your top ideologies are:
Anarcho-communism 93%
Anarcho-syndicalism 92%
Green syndicalism 92%
Fourierism 100%

Your worst ideologies are:
Classical liberalism -80%
Fusionism -93%
Paleoconservatism -100%
 

Opto

Banned
Oct 28, 2017
4,546
Anarcho-naturism 75%
Classical Marxism 75%
Individualist feminism 75%
Marxist feminism 75%

God you say you think the environment is important and that reducing animal product is a good thing and suddenly you're playing a guitar naked.
 
OP
OP

Deffers

Banned
Mar 4, 2018
2,402

bottledfox

Avenger
Oct 28, 2017
1,576
Agreed:
Anarcho-communism - 100%: Absolutely.
Anarcho-naturism - 100%: I guess.
Anarcho-syndicalism - 100%: Only as a step on the road to communism.
Classical Marxism - 100%: Very much so.
Anarcha-feminism - 100%: Sure.
Insurrectionary anarchism - 100%: Not quite. I'm way more compromising than the insurrectionists.
Queer anarchism - 100%: Sure.
Synthesis anarchism - 100%: Is this even compatible with insurrectionary anarchism? Synthesis anarchism fits me more.
Communalism - 100%: Yes.
Neozapatismo - 100%: Largely accurate.
Fourierism - 100%: Same as anarcho-syndicalism.
Marxist feminism - 100%: Sure.

Disagreed:
Fusionism - 71%: Barf.
Paleoconservatism - 100%: Ultra barf.
Caliphate - 70%: Seems right.

If this was the political quadrant, I'd be bottom-left corner.
 
Oct 28, 2017
1,865
That should probably be a more straightforward social democracy, which is a result two other people got. I have no idea what you did to trigger Marxism-Leninism or anarchism, but I figured that's what you were about since Third Way is one of the ways to express that position and it was your biggest agree by far. It might have something to do with what it considers ML. MLs would have considered capitalism a failure-- contrarily, Lenin considered his socialist experiment in Russia to have failed and transitioned into state capitalism. So depending on how Political sextant reads ML thought, maybe it got some indication of that out of you.

Still hilarious though.

If you aren't all about burning capitalism to the ground or a 'fuck the poor' type, political sextant has no idea what to do with you and starts spitting out nonsense ideologies.


'Third Way' is not something I have ever associated with US politics, nor do I believe US centrism is at all commensurate with Third Way ideology as it emerged in Britain and Australia. In the latter case, it is broadly similar to centre-left social democracy.
 
OP
OP

Deffers

Banned
Mar 4, 2018
2,402
If you aren't all about burning capitalism to the ground or a 'fuck the poor' type, political sextant has no idea what to do with you and starts spitting out nonsense ideologies.

The mysterious thing is, like... any of the deeply anarchistic people on the forum got completely broken responses. Its anarchist stuff in general just seems kind of... off. Like, people with major ecological concerns have gotten some odd results, but that's because the only THREE results are anarcho-naturism, an-prim trash, and deep ecology. And there's *dozens* of types of ideologies present that don't cater remotely to the status quo. There's a staggering amount of fascist ideologies on display that mostly exist to be hated by everyone in some unique spectrum. Panscalia? Iron Guards? Strasserism? That's off the shits. So then this quiz would have to cater to mostly Marxist tendencies-- and for the most part, the results bear that out. Despite this, it still produces a narrow spectrum of thought within that sphere. You've got, what, De Leonism, Classical Marxism, Feminist Marxism, and Marxism-Leninism as the big reocurring focuses? It's kind of BAD as a quiz just for Marxists, as sphagnum pointed out. It's GOT more ideologies to pick from, but they barely show up.

Despite this, it tends to show SOME consistency for people who are in capitalist ideology. Some of the time. See Kirblar. It can also pick up on statist tendencies pretty well, see the anti-anarchists I encountered. It still throws some gibberish out there.

I was hoping it would show wilder results outside of the SocialistERA sphere, but that didn't play out.

Uhh.. I got 80% Kemalism.

What's your Third Way at?
 

Robin

Restless Insomniac
Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,502
Best:
Anarcho-communism 100%
Anarcho-syndicalism 100%
Classical Marxism 100%
Collectivist anarchism 100%
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Green syndicalism 100%
Insurrectionary anarchism 100%
Communalism 100%
Synthesis anarchism 100%
Neozapatismo 100%
Fourierism 100%
Marxist feminism 100%


Worst:
Fusionism -71%
Paleoconservatism -90%
Three Principles of the People -67%


Not sure what some of the distinctions between these are but I'm not particularly surprised things skew communist. I don't think any of those questions are enough to actually pinpoint anything though.
 

samoyed

Banned
Oct 26, 2017
15,191
'Third Way' is not something I have ever associated with US politics, nor do I believe US centrism is at all commensurate with Third Way ideology as it emerged in Britain and Australia. In the latter case, it is broadly similar to centre-left social democracy.
Here we run into the problem of comparative politics between the US and the rest of the world. We (the US) are shifted rightward by an entire ideology's worth, so our Third Way would be conservatives in other Anglo country and our center left would be the their center. We'd call their left "commies" but we call anyone who's left of Clinton "commies".
Anarcho-communism 100%
Anarcho-syndicalism 100%
Classical Marxism 100%
Collectivist anarchism 100%
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Green syndicalism 100%
Insurrectionary anarchism 100%
Communalism 100%
Synthesis anarchism 100%
Neozapatismo 100%
Fourierism 100%
Marxist feminism 100%
Lol, holy shit. Just going all in.
 
Nov 28, 2017
589
Yep, I'm a Commie (I knew that already)

Your top ideologies are:
Classical Marxism 100%

Marxism-Leninism 92%

Marxist feminism 100%


Your worst ideologies are:
Clerical fascism -33%

Fusionism -50%

Paleoconservatism -80%
 
Oct 25, 2017
3,722
Social democracy 92%

Marxist feminism 100%

Third Way 100%

Civic nationalism -38%
Three Principles of the People -33%
Minarchism -33%

Reading into them, yeah, I'd say it's pretty spot on. Never heard of Marxist Feminism but yeah, I agree with that. Third Way has me sounding like a centrist, which I guess ideologically I am, but fuck American conservatives.
 

RedMercury

Blue Venus
Member
Dec 24, 2017
17,650

Your top ideologies are:
Classical Marxism 100%
Collectivist anarchism 100%
Anarcha-feminism 100%
Fourierism 100%
Marxist feminism 100%


Your worst ideologies are:
Clerical fascism -42%
Fusionism -64%
Paleoconservatism -90%


I wonder what kept me from matching with Green syndicalism or Insurrectionary anarchism. In fact it looks like there's a bunch I should have matched with. The thing with these tests is I never know if they are presupposing my ideal society, current society, future progress, etc.

Fourier's theoretical system, described by one scholar as "vast and eccentric,"[14] was only a part of the output of what another called "a most riotous and unpruned imagination."[17] Fourier believed that in the new world people would live for 144 years, that new species of friendly and pacifistic animals such as "anti-lions" would emerge, and that over time human beings would develop long and useful tails.[14] Fourier also professed a belief in the ability of human souls to migrate between physical and "aromal" worlds.[14] Such thinking was set aside during the last 15 years of Fourier's life, when he instead began to concentrate on testing in practice his economic and social ideas.[18]

Sure I'll take a tail, fuck it
 
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Robin

Restless Insomniac
Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,502
Here we run into the problem of comparative politics between the US and the rest of the world. We (the US) are shifted rightward by an entire ideology's worth, so our Third Way would be conservatives in other Anglo country and our center left would be the their center. We'd call their left "commies" but we call anyone who's left of Clinton "commies".

Lol, holy shit. Just going all in.


I'm honestly not even sure how as there was one question that seemed over the top and I just left no opinion. Also I personally anguish a lot over the old "is it okay to break the law to change the law" chestnut but went with agree this time because I guess I'm feeling feisty.
 

Deleted member 8860

User requested account closure
Banned
Oct 26, 2017
6,525
Your top ideologies are:

Classical Marxism 88%

Marxism-Leninism 67%

Social democracy 67%

Marxist feminism 75%




Your worst ideologies are:

Mutualism -25%

Bleeding-heart libertarianism -25%

Paleoconservatism -40%


Do the percentages indicate I'm a relative moderate?