I mean, what were you expecting from "next gen" graphics? We've begun to reach diminishing results. Lighting, RTX, and resolution will change, along with rendering distance, but we aren't going to have many more Gears of War moments anymore.
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It's rather disappointing we still haven't seen true next gen graphics
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Demon's Souls is 100% next-gen to me. Especially when not too long after it was shown yesterday, we saw a montage of PS4 games that looked remarkably worse than Demon's Souls. Uncharted 4 and God of War were graphical show-pieces in their day, but they looked downright PS3-esque by comparison.
Most rational people don't. Yes, I get the disappointment in the idea (which may not be true anyway) that it won't take full advantage of the PS5 (particularly that far out from launch), but what they showed of Forbidden West already look to be quite a step ahead. So, I'm giving benefit of the doubt on at least that front - never mind that this is SIE and visuals are rarely something they have trouble delivering on.
I'm confused, are you equating the Bug Snax trailer to experiencing Alyx?
Some of the games look quite nice, but we're long past the point of diminishing returns. I've already resigned myself to the idea that I'm not going to get another Zelda: Link to the Past moment (that rain!), a Battle Arena Toshinden moment (yeah, I know it's a bad game, but a 3D fighting game in my own home was shocking), or even a Gears of War or Lost Odyssey moment.
Each gen is like this where all games do not impress graphically. Few games are shown off at launch on what is possible. I will say that demon souls and ratchet and clank look phenomenal.
Now just imagine what games could look like 3-4 years in. We will be super impressed by then.
Now just imagine what games could look like 3-4 years in. We will be super impressed by then.
The OP is new to gaming 😉 First run of next-gen titles are designed on older tech and not fully utilising the new hardware. Plus as the graphics have improved over the last 3 decades we're getting to that point where improvements seem more subtle.
I'm saying the concept of "next gen" hasn't been adequately defined. For you it's one of the best VR experiences. For others they're excited about stuff like DMCV SE. It just seems pointless to argue about when it's not clear what the phrase means. I just used Bugsnax because obviously it's the opposite of what a lot of people generally think of when this topic comes up.
Demon's Souls looks an awful lot like the Unreal demo, so you are on planet crazy.
Hogwarts and FFXVI look last gen on Pro consoles, so I feel ya, but acting like there's nothing out there...
That said, this new gen is targeting better performance, so things won't look as crazy impressive.
Hogwarts and FFXVI look last gen on Pro consoles, so I feel ya, but acting like there's nothing out there...
That said, this new gen is targeting better performance, so things won't look as crazy impressive.
Ah okay I see. And yeah, that was kind of the point of my post to begin with. Obviously graphics are a big part of generational leaps, but with the diminishing returns we've been experiencing, it was a truly mindblowing experiencing witnessing an actual jump in the actual "experience" of playing a video game that Alyx provides. That combined with its impressive graphics/engine, of course. Everyone who has tried it at my place come out thinking about VR completely differently and blown away.
I personally have not had that "OMG this is new territory" next gen feeling since playing Mario 64 for the first time, that is, until playing Alyx (I'm 34 years old).
FF16 is revealed and i feel nothing
You guys too huh?
I mean I'm hyped for new FF, but it's not hit me like the FFXV and FFVII Remake reveals did.
I wonder if the Pandemic is bumming us out.
Demons Souls looks amazing, very next gen. There was a comparison video in YouTube that pointed out at stuff like ray tracing and it all looks great. People criticize the animations, but I think they are very on-brand with the game, so I appreciate it. I think it's a great game to showcase the capabilities of PS5, thinking about the difference locations and imagining how they look makes me very excited for PS5. Now, if only I can pre-order the console...
I mean in terms of your brain struggling to process "omg how can I what i'm seeing onscreen be REAL wtf "
I felt it with 8 bit, 16 bit, 32/16 and ps2 and Xbox respectively but 7th gen in was like 'yeah... This is kind of it" aside from obvs ways it'll get more impressive with resolution, framerate, lighting RTX and other bellwhistles and doohikies.
I mean it's arguable a remaster of crysis (2007) can even match the game modded 13 years later
Pretty much everything yesterday looked better than the UE5 demo, and it did that with so much more going on in the games too.
Yeah it really does. I'm shocked Rift Apart manages to look better. Insomniac sure are wizards.
Then I'm sorry, but you could see a Pixar film from a "videogame" 3rd person camera angle and say the same. Like what could possibly impress you if the new R&C doesn't? Games aren't going to look much better than that any time soon.
FF16 is revealed and i feel nothing
I get the feeling, and I think it has to do with the fact that the protagonist doesn't look iconic... it looks like an NPC or Random avatar.
but the story looked dope! I'm hoping it's a game in the vein of Tactics or XII or FF1-5, where I think the protagonists were somewhat forgettable, but the focus was more with the story. I wonder if the game will be released next year or if it'll be forever in development
Have you seen the Demon's Souls trailer? For me that's definitely that "next-gen graphics, I had the same feeling watching it that I had watching the Killzone: Shadowfall trailer (those waterfalls...)
There definitely hasn't been a wow moment for me. I think the closet was hellblade 2 but who knows if that was actually representing of what it will really look like
Demon's Souls looked alright on the live stream. Watching it later though when it was uploaded at a higher resolution and frame rate though.. mind blown.
That one really feels next-gen to me.
That one really feels next-gen to me.
Please check demons souls op. I think it's pretty a compelling case for what next gen can be. Also pay careful attention to the loading. Not just about graphics but the experience.
If Sony announced tomorrow, "Just kidding, none of the upcoming PS5 games are cross gen", you would all of a sudden see threads of people talking about how incredible Miles Morales looks, along with Horizon, Final Fantasy, etc.
Some of these people would stop wearing shirts if Sony told them they had six packs.
Kind of off topic, but can PS5 and the new xbox output 1440p? Or is it only 1080p or 4k?
To be fair, it's less about what you see and more about what you don't see. Developers working on the game having a brainstorming session or deciding on mechanics or areas of the game: "Oh man we should totally have an area X that contains A, B, and C. That would be perfect for this!" "Yeah you're right, but if we did that it would cause way too many issues/be too difficult to implement/be problematic on the PS4, so we probably shouldn't do that."
Everyone's talking about Demon's Souls but I mean, some particle effects, fake volumetric lighting, fog but we've had that since the N64...could probably be done on the Switch, just like Witcher 3 was. Just have drop the resolution a bit, add more loading zones, and use only 12 polys per model. Maybe remove any dynamic lighting.
