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It's now indisputable that Microsoft is the Netflix of Gaming.
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I'm pretty the PlayStation division has about 20 billion in yearly revenue, no idea where you got this number from.
Agreed Game Pass is incredible value. The Ultimate conversion deal they have going at the moment is just insane value, you almost have to be crazy not to take advantage of it.
Is Game Pass a low quality service, available on multiple devices, hiding content behind a paywall, slowly phasing out ownership and conservation?
I guess one could argue that this is the endgoal.
I guess one could argue that this is the endgoal.
I've had Gamepass for like 3 months and I still haven't even played a game from it yet lol. Can't deny the value though, shit is incredible.
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Brad Sams confirmed that they did consider buying EA. During that time EA was around worth $40-50 Billion.
Not if everyone pulls their games from your service to publish them on their own. This is Honeymoon phase with prices as low as 1€. Sure, it's awesome now but no one knows how it will look like in 5 to 10 years. Netflix is already losing all the Disney stuff at the moment and still increases their prices regularly.
Gamepass is literally what got me to switch over to Xbox as my primary system a few months ago, which is pretty crazy considering how long I've been using PS4 as my primary console. If Xcloud works as well as advertised that + Gamepass is going to be pretty crazy.
And PlayStation division revenue is included in the overall Sony revenue, which is.. you get my point.
It's only the Game Pass and PS Now subscriber numbers that are actually relevant to what the OP is asserting. We're talking about the Netflix style subscription services here. Microsoft can still be a leader in this market even if they're falling behind in other areas. The direct competition to Game Pass is currently PS Now and EA/Origin Access. The fact that the PlayStation division has higher revenue than Xbox or that Microsoft has higher revenue than Sony doesn't tell us the market position of Game Pass compared to its competitors. Even hardware sales are irrelevant, all three services can be used on PC.
What is this Brad Sam's source? And again saying they "considered" something literally means nothing. You also can't just buy a company that doesn't want to be bought. That's not how anything works.
PlayStation:
Revenue: 2,310B yen ($20+B)
Operating income: 311B yen ($3B)
Netflix:
Revenue: $15B
Operating income: $1.2B
Once you are out of the launch window there is really no more revenue other than DLC. Third party games that go on have been out for long enough to be out of launch window. This for a third party this is a new source of revenue and opens up more possibilities of DLC sales.
They would rather take something than nothing.
I am really impressed and in general I've never really been that impressed with Microsoft (although 360 era around when Vesperia and Eternal Sonata were announced made me get a 360). I think Sony is now officially behind the curve. MS have been pretty non existent for the past few years but they have really built their infrastructure up.
I feel like even if Sony had nothing big to announce, it was a mistake to cede all the attention to MS. A lot of the games they showed are actually PS4 games too.
I feel like even if Sony had nothing big to announce, it was a mistake to cede all the attention to MS. A lot of the games they showed are actually PS4 games too.
Then why don't they? Then they could actually be the market leader in consoles instead of being in 3rd place.
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If Microsoft had a good offer that EA Shareholders couldn't resist then they would take it. Brad Sams is a highly credible person regarding the insides of Xbox and Microsoft overall.
You don't "need" to buy new games, whether you have Game Pass or not. As of right now, games are downloaded and played locally. Looking forward there will probably be the option to stream them as well ala Stadia.
Yep I've been very frustrated with how piecemeal Play Anywhere was, but Game Pass for PC seems amazing. If they can offer up quality indies every month with the occasional AAA game I will be very happy.
That's fine unless you are the sort of person who must have access to every service all the time. Once the service stops being worthwhile to you then you stop using it and only do the monthly thing when there is something you want on it.
To be the netflix of something indicates to me that as a platform it is available everywhere. Less to do with its breadth of content and more to do with its ubiquity among consumers.
With Ubisoft launching their own pass, I'm getting the feeling publishers are already looking to skip past the good years of movie/tv streaming and jump right into the "separate sub for each studio" dystopia we're in now.
The value is insane. I was thinking about it yesterday. I can buy scarlet day one and not buy any games. My xbox one livrary will transfer and if I have gamepass all microsoft launch games will be available including Halo Infinite. A very good incentive to make people buy your platform day one.
It's disputable.
Have you ever looked into PS Now? It's been around a lot longer, probably has more subs, and it's likely it will get a performance boost with next gen.
Have you ever looked into PS Now? It's been around a lot longer, probably has more subs, and it's likely it will get a performance boost with next gen.
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You don't have to be on sale to be bought. If you convince the Shareholders of a good deal, then they can buy the company.
PSNow has 700,000 users. Game Pass has been confirmed to be in the Millions.
Why don't you ask him? But you can't dispute Brad Sams insider knowledge of Microsoft.
Most will know that google will take the lead in this. Ms is bad in marketing and mobile/cloud is not their thing. I have onedrive and it doesnt work smart, even my xbox one controllers have issues on their own OS. Even google stream tech is way beyond what other companies can deliver. They have youtube chromecadt and google to stream their games. Everyone will get use to it. Howmuch i love ms, google will be the next netflix. I believe sony is in the worst position here. Nintendo always does their own thing.
Sony didn't lose anything by not showing up. The reaction to Microsoft's show has been tepid at best.
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Sounds like more speculation that literally adds nothing of value to your point. Try using some actual facts when having a discussion. Here is a fact, Playstation generates more than double the revenue that Xbox does. Sony has spent a hell of a lot more developing actual videos in the last 10 years. Microsoft has not made a game at the quality of a Sony AAA game in over a decade. Sony has far better 3rd party support than Microsoft does, PSN alone generates more revenue than the entire Xbox division. I can go on but I hope you got the point.
Someone saying they heard someone consider something has never proved anything.
For me it's been a much better value than Netflix has ever been. Using special offers and trials, I got 7 months of gamepass for like $2.00.
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If Google was the Netflix of Gaming, why did they go the route of IaaS and not SaaS?
Gotta agree with everyone here. It's pretty indisputable. Don't see how anyone else can come close to matching them at this point. Gamepass and xCloud together is going to be bonkers.
It's fucking insane.
- Gamepass has already saved me HUNDREDS of dollars with games I would've bought anyway.
- Then they randomly shadow drop amazing games I WANT to buy/play but tell myself I won't because my backlog is too big. i.e. Life is Strange 2
- Then they constantly announce new games that drop day 1 on Game Pass that, again, I WANT to play but am not paying $30/$40/$60 day one when my backlog is already disgustingly huge...i.e. Ashen/Below ($40/$30)
- Then E3 comes and they shadow drop more games I want to play like Metro: Exodus, Void Bastards, Moonlighter, Astroneer, Everspace, Guacamelee 2, Hollow Knight, (hell, the last two I already played elsewhere but I never beat them and now they're free?) lots more without even announcing this drop
- Then they announce like 30 fucking games that are launching day 1 with gamepass, many that are day one purchases in many peoples minds
It's fucking insane.
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MS is making loads of money from getting a cut of EA games and EA Access. They need several billion dollars of reasons to buy EA while currently they can just make money off of them doing very little.
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Which is why I think we will see some serious acquisitions activity from Microsoft, Google and Amazon. We will likely see a massive consolidation of the Gaming Industry with few players left and indies taking the rest.
The only issue is that Ubi can't put its service everywhere without MS permission. It's likely why their service is PC only. Likely cut a deal to keep console stuff in Game Pass.
Anyone know the console/Pc split of Ubi games? I feel like their bread and butter leans heavily console not PC.
I don't think there's nearly enough overall content nor quality original/1st party content for them to be considered the Netflix of gaming. Maybe in 5 years time.
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Of course, but the acquisition activity is mostly liked focused around the Cloud Giants.
GP is the best service that's come out this gen for gaming. I paid a $1 to have access to gears of war, halo, and a ton of other games when they launch. Can't beat that shit. Gonna start Metro Exodus in a minute
If you really want to stick to facts, None of Days Gone, The Last Guardian, Order 1886 and Infamous (all AAA games) have a higher metacritic than the Forza Horizon series. Or Ori. Or Halo 5. Or Gears 4.
But I digress. Gamepass - what this thread is about - is SO much more than first party games. It encompasses lots of excellent 3rd party games, indies, first party games and 360/Xbox BC. Why are you bringing console wars rhetoric here?
And not losing customers. They're adapting, same as Microsoft will. No need for the doom and gloom now. Just enjoy your game pass!
I'd say no, but then again Sony always delivers at Shit o' clock, and they can't be bothered with day one PS Now so yeah, Microsoft is truly the leader of digital space.
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