It's kind of crazy that an $8 indie game gives console users PC level graphic options

Rocketz · Nov 13, 2020

So I wanted to give Bright Memory a spin on Series X since well it's cheap. Jumping in to the menus, I was really surprised to see the amount you could change. FOV as well in a different menu. It's taken years to get an FOV slider in games like COD and Destiny, and this game basically lets do what you want. Now I know it's not to the same level as a lot of PC games but it's way more than console games ever get.

Could we see more of this in the future on console or do you think will still see pre set modes like graphical or performance.

Firestorm · Nov 13, 2020

Oh, hell no. We all have the exact same hardware. Tell us the optimal settings. I play console games to get away from my stupid "the grass is always greener" brain on PC stuff where I play with settings for an hour to try and get the best setup.

Genetrik · Nov 13, 2020

+1

Rover_ · Nov 13, 2020

this tbh. choices between visuals and performance + fov slider is enough.

LCGeek · Nov 13, 2020

You're not forced to tweak.

There are no optimal settings as switch ports prove.

I like that devs get away from some facets of pc space but this isn't a good one to avoid considering it can get in the way of IQ or performance decisions that quite frankly a dev doesn't decide for me nor has any business.

A. D. Skinner · Nov 13, 2020

This is me

I'd rather they optimise a few options as we are getting. One reason among many for gaming on console is I get it and it just works

I see what you mean OP, but I see it as possibly the opposite.

Thera · Nov 13, 2020

But that's pointless...

R1CHO · Nov 13, 2020

If all PS4 games had basic options like resolution and frame rate unlocker, the compatibility on PS5 would have been ideal for every game.

Options are good, although some of the ones on the OT game probably make little sense for a console game.

Turrican2 · Nov 13, 2020

+1

Taruranto · Nov 13, 2020

... What's the point? Console have one hardware, those exists because every PC is fundamentally different.

Bernkastel · Nov 13, 2020

This.

Arsene no Kiseki · Nov 13, 2020

Just use the default settings wtf lol

AtomicShroom · Nov 13, 2020

This.

These types of settings exist solely to accommodate the vast diversity of available PC hardware. Fixed hardware doesn't need this shit.

nsilvias · Nov 13, 2020

i dont need to touch it but option bad, am i right ?!

Deleted member 21709 · Nov 13, 2020

I actually think this detracts from the game, not adds to it. They should offer us the ideal settings for performance/visuals.

giapel · Nov 13, 2020

Presets plus advanced settings. Problem solved.

edgefusion · Nov 13, 2020

Just make it look as good as possible for the fixed hardware it runs on and leave the tinkering for PC where hardware is variable.

AnimeJesus · Nov 13, 2020

I really hope not...I like PC gaming but it can stress me out sometime when I nitpick over little settings to get an extra 2 fps. Consoles remove that option which I like.

I think Cinematic (30fps\High Resolution) vs Performance (60+fps\Variable Resolution) is as far as graphics options should go on consoles.

Flappy Pannus · Nov 13, 2020

Meh. This kind of granularity to me just speaks more of a lack of optimisation for the target platform rather than actually enabling sought-after features. For example what's the point of having a texture setting? You know exactly how much VRAM this will be running on, it should simply set that to the max the S/X can handle respectively.

I'm all for 'Image Quality/Performance' modes, and things like unlocked/locked framerates and other aspects that some people find annoying, such as chromatic abberation/motion blur. But going down into aspects like Anisotropic filtering and SSAO will do nothing but confuse your typical gamer and are just not necessary in a platform with a whopping two configurations.

Belthazar90 · Nov 13, 2020

Well, they do in the case of Backwards Compatibility and essentially make the game future proof without needing a patch. It's the same with Star Ocean Last Hope, where you can tweak various setting and some of them will make the game run worse... but on PS5/Series X it just runs flawlessly with everything maxed out.

Sirhc · Nov 13, 2020

Options are the best, being able to choose FoV over a little performance or a little graphics options are great, give me more PC like settings please devs but leave presets for those who want it simple.

Greywaren · Nov 13, 2020

I... honestly don't understand why people are so upset about having MORE options?

Like, the default settings are the "optimal" settings for console, but the game lets you mess around with stuff if you want to. I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.

Badcoo · Nov 13, 2020

This.

Flappy Pannus · Nov 13, 2020

Yes as we all know PC games are great at determining the proper settings for your system and framerate preference. 🤨

Z-Beat · Nov 13, 2020

Bright Memory's that game that's made by like one guy and looks impossibly good for that developer size, yeah?

SnakeXs · Nov 13, 2020

I like the visuals of 30fps and the response of 60fps. I can't wait to dive in and dial in my settings with a ton of back and forth testing and spinning in circles getting that perfect 45fps middle ground. 🤌🏼

Mozendo · Nov 13, 2020

I guess I'm one of the few that sees this as a good thing.
I don't think there's anything wrong with this? Increasing the FoV slider is already a huge option, and weren't people complaining about the aggressive chromatic aberration in Bloodborne? Motion blur is also a feature that some/most games will not let you disable.

I think developers should have recommended settings for graphical fidelity vs high frame rate performance but they should also allow to tinker with things deeper.

Doomguy Fieri · Nov 13, 2020

Opening up the options menu and seeing anything aside from invert Y axis and just getting SO. GODDAMN. ANNOYED.

hey it's that dog · Nov 13, 2020

How does it run with everything set to max?

opticalmace · Nov 13, 2020

I like having options. As long as presets are provided for those that don't want to tinker, I don't see the problem.

Kill3r7 · Nov 13, 2020

But what's the harm in allowing the user to tinker with the setting? There are default settings.

kitler53 · Nov 13, 2020

+1

rarely will i argue against options but a big part of the reason i game on consoles is the "it just works" mentality. I don't even know what antisropic filtering is and i don't want to know either. but i do kind of like what i'm seeing on ps5 and series x with:
- fidelity mode
- performance mode

it seems to me to be a good balance between resolving the conflict between the mass market that just wants a good looking game and the internet mob that thinks 60 fps actually matters..

FUNKNOWN iXi · Nov 13, 2020

On a side note, how is this game anyway?

Nabs · Nov 13, 2020

I imagine if this picks up, you'll simply just have presets along with fine choices like in the OP. It'll probably take a few seconds of your time.

I don't see why having more options is a bad thing.

psilocybe · Nov 13, 2020

Nice! Options are always welcome.
Just let the default settings be what would be if there were no options.

Le Dude · Nov 13, 2020

What? Even on PC there's always presets (low, medium, high) you can choose from. Worst case scenario you can always just pick those and take the frame rate you like best, but today a lot of games automatically pick settings based on your PC hardware, and for those that don't there's tools like NVIDIA experience that identify the best options for your hardware for a lot of games.

Plus if a company really wants on a console they could do this and then make a 30fps and 60fps preset, maybe even 120fps depending on the game, and then have an advanced options menu.

bombermouse · Nov 13, 2020

This. Dev had a vision, show me what that vision is. At most I like choosing at a high level like performance/visual modes.

Rocketz · Nov 13, 2020

This is the prequel to what your thinking of.

I only played like 10-15 minutes but it seemed fine. I think it tears without vsync on.

It's not the best controlling game I will say that.

maximumzero · Nov 13, 2020

Just give me a "Shiny, but at 30fps" mode and a "Less shiny, but 60fps" mode and I'm all good.

This sort of granularity makes me break out in cold sweats when I do the PC Gaming thing.

hey it's that dog · Nov 13, 2020

Is the point of turning settings down to get above 60fps? What is the practical consquence of the granularity of options?

Stencil · Nov 13, 2020

Yeah, exactly. I do not want to fiddle with optimization on consoles.

I guess some options aren't a bad thing, but they damn well better be cosmetic and not effect any performance.

Zuly · Nov 13, 2020

Even on PC, there'a generic presets and only those who want to squeeze every frame possible, go setting by setting.

Honestly any type of setting that affects lighting or blurring is an accessibility setting (photosensitive) for me hence why I stopped buying consoles altogether since I can't tweak these settings on console.

turbobrick · Nov 13, 2020

I don't see the problem. You don't have to change anything if you don't want to.

samred · Nov 13, 2020

this game was unoptimized as hell during the Xbox Series preview period, I gotta go back and retest. that they left PC style sliders in there almost feels like they threw their hands up and said, "I dunno, you figure it out"

totofogo · Nov 13, 2020

Yeah, not a fan of this.

Huh?

Rocketz · Nov 13, 2020

In this game, I'm not sure. Maybe the Series S would benefit more.

Future multiplayer titles though this could be something that is more useful.

KhandoleezzaRice · Nov 13, 2020

I also prefer having the settings curated and optimized but since we're now getting "Performance" and "Visual" modes in a few games, having a full set of options just seems like the end goal.

Also, ELI5 but why wouldn't you always have your FOV slider set to max? I've been told the performance impact is negligible and I don't see why someone would want it narrow.

Anecdotally, those settings provide a good base but there's often some tinkering still needed to get what you can while maintaining your target frame rate. I agree that throwing all those features under an "Advanced" tab or sub menu is the best of both worlds.

Deleted member 2620 · Nov 13, 2020

do some of you have such little imagination that you can't imagine the presets being exactly as bespoke and simple as they are in games now but with the addition of these options, complete with them being clearly communicated as "ADVANCED" and buried a bit deeper in the menus?

or can you imagine that and that's actually, genuinely a detracting thing for you and not a Platform Wars stance?

Rocketz · Nov 13, 2020

It feels like they just gave you the PC version but kinda bolted on controller support and let you at it.

The Shape · Nov 13, 2020

Oh no...

It's kind of crazy that an $8 indie game gives console users PC level graphic options

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