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It's been over 2 years since release and the Switch is still missing basic features that you would expect from a modern gaming console
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If Nintendo is okay with other Apps, chances are it's more Netflix than Nintendo.
They literally only have 2-3 or apps. I am betting my chances on Nintendo. There is clear strict rules or deals to release an app on their store or it would be filled with apps. I am sure most companies/services want to cater for a platform with 40m and growing userbase.
Most of the systems have rules about what Apps are allowed to run. The point is that Nintendo is apparently okay with them since they have Apps from two big players on their machine. So it's odd that Nintendo made an exception with Netflix if Netflix didn't play some big part in it.
Agreed, way too many people giving Nintendo a pass here but all I can do is vote with my wallet on the matter.
Only allow messages from friends. Disable in-game voice chat. Just you and the game. It's bliss.
The excuses all of you make up to defend this are lame af.
Those aren't on the Switch.
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No. It is superfluous nonsense. All Comms I can do from a phone and the UX is light years better.
I have shitty eyesight. Up close like the Switch is it's fine. Better than my small phone.
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Oh, my shitty excuse got called out, let's troll, quick !
Actually I'm angry because of you fuckers gatekeeping options for the rest of us out of pure fanboyism.
Imagine defending this shit when the 3DS had nearly all of these features over a decade ago. The lengths people will go to justify Nintendo's lackadaisical performance never ceases to amaze me.
it's pretty much a coping mechanism
we have no control so the choice is between deciding to be okay with it (and convincing ourselves with excuses) or being upset and doing... what, exactly? making forum posts?
it's a shitty reality that a lot of people go to great lengths to embrace
Pardon? I bought a Switch because it's is a game console I can play anywhere. I have a PS4/TV/Phone for everything else.
I like taking a screenshot during a game and then sometime later go and make it my PS4s background wallpaper. Yet I see people in here calling that bloat? Weirdness!
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Maybe someday all devs will awaken to the collective idea that all games should track and display your playtime in-game *and* accurately at that (counting cutscenes, loading, retries, etc.). Until then the 3DS activity log is freaking great as otherwise I have to manually track my playtime outside of the scarce few games that do it with real-time accuracy.
What PS4 are you using? I pop in a games disc and my PS4 automatically brings up the game in question an then I hit X to start the game.
What BS?
You have to go outta your way ta see "who's playing what" on PS4. At boot the system drops ya on the "what's new" section which is just a right d-pad push away from the games. I also only play single player games an have not once been lambasted with any of that stuffs.
I don't have a phone. Sometimes its more comfy/convenient ta use a console browser than to go over to my pc. Been using 'em regularly since the good old Dreamcast browser up through the PS3/PSP/3DS/PS4.
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I consider it a stat much like quest completion percentage, highest score, an others I like tracking! Another thing is when I'm deciding on a game to replay I'll check my completion times an they'll play a part in my decision on whether or not to start replaying a game at a given time. One other thing is looking back at my previous time an seeing if I can get through it quicker on the next go! Essentially as someone who likes stats and replaying games its handy info to have. On 3DS I just gotta boot up the activity log, elsewhere I gotta load up my site an remember which year I played it last an go to that page.
btw manually tracking time bites. Gotta jot down a start point, say: 5:00 p.m. (hitting start/load exactly at 00 seconds) and have a clock handy when saving and quitting, say 8:43:17 p.m. then doing some simple figuring out of the time spent from start to finish. For each an every session I play something. Then adding it all up at the end. And comparing it against the in-game playtime count which more often than not is displayed as less than the real time I spent >.<;
Congratulations I guess for accepting and welcoming mediocrity?
I can't imagine that there are actually people out there that are happy with the glacial pace of Nintendo's OS development.
I don't understand the frustration with time to get into a PS4 game. With rest mode, it's basically the same process as on the switch, albeit longer by a few seconds. Just turn on, go one icon to the right, and then you're in the game. Like, what's different aside from speed in booting up?
Maybe it's because I just use my switch for games, but most of that seems superfluous. Why would you want the switch to be a Bluetooth speaker? The speakers are decent enough, but have no bass; so why would you use it as a speaker?
Having no browser is fine, most folks probably use their smart phones for that. It would be nice but unnecessary.
Themes are nice, but I'm playing games; not surfing menus, so I wouldn't see it anyway. I don't see a point to folders. What needs to be seperated? Games, game saves, and pictures? Maybe I'm lacking imagination.
I agree that netflix and social features need to be there (or maybe there are and I just haven't explored it). Twitch support needs to happen too, but Nintendo likes to control their content; soooo...yea.
Having no browser is fine, most folks probably use their smart phones for that. It would be nice but unnecessary.
Themes are nice, but I'm playing games; not surfing menus, so I wouldn't see it anyway. I don't see a point to folders. What needs to be seperated? Games, game saves, and pictures? Maybe I'm lacking imagination.
I agree that netflix and social features need to be there (or maybe there are and I just haven't explored it). Twitch support needs to happen too, but Nintendo likes to control their content; soooo...yea.
It's probably more likely due to the fact that Netflix wants Nintendo to license the Playready DRM that Netflix uses in other platforms and Nintendo won't because they are cheap.
Last generation of Nintendo consoles Netflix was smaller and hungrier and was willing to make a custom app for the Wii U and 3DS. Today Netflix wants one code base everywhere and they don't want to support custom apps for platforms (which is probably why the Wii U app got an update that made it worse). Nintendo doesn't understand why they can't just do what they did last generation and so we don't get Netflix.
Hulu was fine with just basic HDCP DRM because they had an ex-Nintendo guy there that probably told them there was a 0% chance Nintendo would license Microsoft's Playready DRM.
It's the opposite; they want to output the Switch audio over Bluetooth.
Why does every single one of these threads ends up with someone saying "Actually the lack of features is a good thing"
Because it's a chore to turn on my PS4, and it's sluggish, bloated, and cluttered. I hate it. Switch is sublime in comparison, and if the trade off is some features it's absolutely worth it.
Folders would be nice though. That's about the only one I really think I'm missing.
Only if they would make money that way. Rumor has it Netflix had a very low user count on 3DS and Wii. There is no evidence that Nintendo would go out of their way to block one specific video streaming service when they don't block others. On the other hand, a company like Netflix not wanting to spend a lot of money maintaining a separate code base for a game console unlike the other ones, that doesn't actually make them much money...that seems quite reasonable.
Or maybe Nintendo has a grudge against Netflix for not carrying the Super Mario Bros. live-action movie in the US...
You're right, having party chat and a browser would make the OS turn into shit. It's science.
Web browsers eat a ton of memory, and take a lot of processing power too on certain sites. And the browser would need to be in memory at all times (the whole point of a browser on a game console: to look up hints while playing a game). Switch doesn't have much memory compared to the other consoles, and games expect to be able to access most of it (Switch memory is already shared between CPU and GPU). The more apps you have in the OS eating up memory and CPU power, the less memory and CPU power are available for games.
The freaking Vita has a working browser with a pittance of memory alloted to the system. I think they can manage.
In fact, the Vita has most of those features and the OS works fine 🤷♀️
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Is there any chance we can get a 'Time To Gameplay' counter?
I swear most of the time I'm staring at my games and wondering 'how fast until I am playing' these days.
I don't hate the pile of shame I have I just want to get past the preamble. Switch games tend to have that edge, not even taking into account system level updates etc.
I swear most of the time I'm staring at my games and wondering 'how fast until I am playing' these days.
I don't hate the pile of shame I have I just want to get past the preamble. Switch games tend to have that edge, not even taking into account system level updates etc.
Actually one of the big dissappointments for me this gen.
I mean the Switch is a great piece of hardware and has a huge potential. But Nintendo is really doing the least amount of work now that it's out..
They could do so much more with it, among those things OP mentioned..
I mean the Switch is a great piece of hardware and has a huge potential. But Nintendo is really doing the least amount of work now that it's out..
They could do so much more with it, among those things OP mentioned..
Have you actually tried the Vita browser while playing a game? A common scenario: a webpage slowly loads, reaches 90%, the Vita runs out of memory, the page starts to reload again, gets to 90%, Vita runs out of memory... Not all sites do that of course, but even Reddit can cause it. Or sites load text only, no images. The onscreen keyboard is slow and clunky. What I'm saying is, yes, Vita has a web browser. One that often provides a really bad experience to the user, unless you close any game first and disable javascript support.
Better some experience than none. WiiU had abreally good browser btw and I heard that Switch is more powerful.
it's a shame Nintendo is always lacking when their products are scoring well.
So you prefer no browser over the possibility of having to close the game to use the browser?
Okay.
Generally speaking I don't understand why if someone is fine with the Switch as it is (with not many features actually) he/she's immediately attached as being "brainwashed" by Nintendo or being a fanboy.
I bought the Switch just as a gaming device, the fact that someone sees it as a "tablet" sound really strange.
I usually don't see the "home" menu for months because I usually play and then put the console in sleep mode (repeat until the game is done).
I bought the Switch just as a gaming device, the fact that someone sees it as a "tablet" sound really strange.
I usually don't see the "home" menu for months because I usually play and then put the console in sleep mode (repeat until the game is done).
It takes roughly 5 seconds to launch a game once you've reached the PS4's main menu.
You literally turn it on then click on the game you want to launch.
What a chore ! Such bloat !
I prefer wired headphone quality and utility but it is a bit weird. The wireless radio being hella weak is weirder tho.
I just want a proper messaging system for friends that are online. That shouldn't be too hard.. right?
The lack of any cohesive online system is still baffling to me, especially since you now have to pay for it. You can't message or invite your friends to games. Basically everything required to play with a friend needs to be done external to the Switch. Hell, there are first-party online Nintendo games with no relationship to the system-level friends list. If you want to play your friend's level in Mario Maker 2 you need to get their MM2-specific creator ID. Absurd.
I read a lot of hearsay on why this is. One thing I've read is that all the available bluetooth channels are taken up, the other is that bluetooth interferes with the joycons. Where the truth lies, I have no idea.
Being able to bluetooth headphones is the only thing that I rue the absence of on this machine.
This thread is what happens when his patience runs out.
Nintendo best be scared.
The Switch is very basic, but to be fair alongisde my PS4 it's there when I need it, I grab it to play games, that's what it's for and what it does best.
My only, very minor issue I do agree with is the lack of bluetooth, but other than that everything else is pretty much trivial.
My only, very minor issue I do agree with is the lack of bluetooth, but other than that everything else is pretty much trivial.
It appears that way because they don't get as many of the AAA third party titles but it's not like Switch doesn't get any big titles.
Yoshi's Crafted World
Captain Toad: Treasure Tracker
Octopath Traveler
Super Mario Maker 2
Kirby Star Allies
Mario Tennis Aces
New Super Mario Bros. U Deluxe
Super Mario Party
Super Smash Bros. Ultimate
Pokémon: Let's Go, Pikachu! and Let's Go, Eevee!
This was from wiki of best selling games from 2018 to now.
I agree with a lot of these points with the exception of the web browser. I know some people would use it, but that's probably too small a number to justify how people would take advantage of it.
Almost every 3DS exploit I've ever done has been running unsigned code through the web browser. In that regard I get that Nintendo just wouldn't even want to deal with it.
Almost every 3DS exploit I've ever done has been running unsigned code through the web browser. In that regard I get that Nintendo just wouldn't even want to deal with it.
I'm not gate-keeping anything, I just don't care. I don't need any of those options and if Nintendo decides thay don't want to implement them , then fine.