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It's been 7 months since Game of Thrones ended, what do you think now?
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But it generally is a possibility (and far more likely than one of the extremes except for seemingly on the internet where there is only one or the other) and the poll does not reflect that option and thus is not a reasonable poll.
By being bait. The Night's King wouldn't have marched into position for Arya otherwise.
Although it is definitely another big problem I have that all of Bran's training was just so he could act as bait. I think most people would have expected a big warg moment that helps win the battle or some valuable insight from the future/past/elsewhere.
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George has so much familiar ground to cover though, I don't see stuff like Hodor's origin or Jon's fate being much different than how the show did it.
But the show failing just made me not care about the books generally, on top fo the fact we know they're never coming.
It was fine and still is. The show got worse with each season (despite some stellar episodes) so it didn't even catch me by surprise. Actually it was better than what I was afraid of.
The problem is that the TV show left a bad taste in the mouth, and that makes it hard for some to even go back to the source material.
This is where I differ. I need the last books. No way the white walkers end the way D&D wrote it. That's the most interesting part of the series for me, I will be there day one... in 2035.
I voted for "hated it then, hate it now" but my feelings were more complicated. I had written the show off after season 7 because there was just no way they could effectively wrap up all of their story lines with the few remaining episodes left. In that two year gap I was actually able to lower my expectations to a point where I just went along for the ride in season 8. I was more bemused than angry as season 8 fell apart. The spectacle was amazing, and The Bells is a masterclass in direction and cinematography, but as everything else fell apart I was able to view it from a disassociated position since I had already accepted the outcome. Today I still don't view the ending with any anger, but I do hate it. I find examining how GOT got to where it went, the decision making process, and the complete bungling on all levels, to be very interesting. That will probably be GOT's legacy, a warning to others that come after about how to lose control of the golden goose.
I can't believe we never even learned the extent of Bran's powers. Super weird. D&D being utterly terrified of non-dragon fantasy elements really hurt the show.
I could see that knowing Jon is coming back or the origin of Hodor's name could lessen the impact. But the manner in which these things happen will be very different. Melisandre won't bring Jon back by washing his body and giving him a haircut. Further, there are strong theories that dying and coming back will change Jon in some way (like how Beric is so different from who he was). Martin thinks magic should have a cost so we won't just see the same old Jon when he returns.
And there's no "door" under the weirwood tree where Bran and Hodor are now so that should be different, even if it's similar.
I guess I'm more curious about the execution than the raw plot developments. Dany destroying King's Landing will have emotional weight because of the decisions behind it rather than the "that was weird' response we had in the show's version.
Also, remember when Tyrion paraphrased the "First they came..." poem to say they should have realized Dany killing slavers was bad? God the show is dumb. "We should have known she'd kill innocents after she saved innocents by killing slavers!"
The butchering of Tyrion over the last four seasons is inexcusable.
I still think the 7th and 8th seasons were complete and utter dogshit of the lowest order. Truly awful.
D&D rushing this series to a horrible season is a crime, because the first 5 seasons are top tier television.
Still shit. Hasn't soured my opinion on the rest of the series like I know it has for others, those early seasons are still some of the most engaging TV I've seen when it was all about political backstabbing and stuff like that. Fond memories and I really want to go back and watch them again. But the ending is still shit no matter how much time passes, I'd probably stop rewatches before getting to the final season at all.
I started watching the show at Season 8 and I thought it was pretty bad. A lot of random images and melodrama. Characters appeared out of nowhere with no explanation and I had no clue who they were.
How did they all travel across this presumably huge country so quickly, while in the same breath proclaiming how little time they had left to stop <the threat>? Really bad show.
How did they all travel across this presumably huge country so quickly, while in the same breath proclaiming how little time they had left to stop <the threat>? Really bad show.
I never think about it. But when I do think about a cool moment, it's tainted severely by the ending.
Like the ending of Hardhome, which for years I considered the best GOT moment for expressing how fucked the Seven Kingdoms was, in retrospect turns out to be absolutely nothing to be worried about.
Like the ending of Hardhome, which for years I considered the best GOT moment for expressing how fucked the Seven Kingdoms was, in retrospect turns out to be absolutely nothing to be worried about.
It is so bad that even though a vast majority is saying things like "It is just the worst" and "It ruined the whole show", I still think people are being too kind.
Outside of the general craftsmanship(sfx, sets, etc.) and some of the acting, it is truly wretched, a horribly conceived and written checklist masquerading as a story.
The fact that that this version of Euron exists and continued to exist without any attempts to change his dire characterization is insane and telling. The ridiculously abrupt Dany "turn", its treatment of most of its female characters in general, the show throwing its hands up in defeat when it comes to the White Walkers, the ending itself being so completely removed from the reality of the show that preceded it(you know all the good stuff like Bran the Broken being best king material even though he is actually the opposite, the Iron Islands being silent when Sansa claims the North is going independent, etc.).
The ending was clearly decided well in advance but the showrunners never bothered to build to it and, what do you know, the whole thing collapses into nothing.
Outside of the general craftsmanship(sfx, sets, etc.) and some of the acting, it is truly wretched, a horribly conceived and written checklist masquerading as a story.
The fact that that this version of Euron exists and continued to exist without any attempts to change his dire characterization is insane and telling. The ridiculously abrupt Dany "turn", its treatment of most of its female characters in general, the show throwing its hands up in defeat when it comes to the White Walkers, the ending itself being so completely removed from the reality of the show that preceded it(you know all the good stuff like Bran the Broken being best king material even though he is actually the opposite, the Iron Islands being silent when Sansa claims the North is going independent, etc.).
The ending was clearly decided well in advance but the showrunners never bothered to build to it and, what do you know, the whole thing collapses into nothing.
It was an okay-to-good show that needed a great ending. I just donated my bluray seasons to Goodwill last week.
The show faltered long before the final season but the Night King's death just broke it for me. I had some hope until then that there would be a satisfying resolution but that moment let me just enjoy the crash and the great memes (probably the best part of season 8) flushed the show out of my system. I'm honestly grateful for that. I never got that catharsis with Battlestar Galactica and I still feel disappointed whenever I think about that show.
Mostly uh, oh yeah that thing. I can't get excited for anything Game of Thrones and wouldn't watch them again or a look back at best moments. It's over.
If the new series gets talked about as the best thing ever after a season, well I would give it a look, not a mad man.
If the new series gets talked about as the best thing ever after a season, well I would give it a look, not a mad man.
Yeah on some level it does feel like season 8s value is as a meme generator.
One way or another, the remaining books will definitely come out.
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The hype was soooo good.
Almost a decade in the making...
And it disapointed so hard.
Might still catch the books someday.
The hype was soooo good.
Almost a decade in the making...
And it disapointed so hard.
Might still catch the books someday.
Just like "How I met your mother" lol
I'm hoping for another ending at least in book form.
Because the show was so serialized, It retroactively made the previous seasons worse. It's a rare feat.
What made it hurt more than it should, was just the knowledge that the legitimate book ending was at best still a decade away and felt unreachable. So to see a monumental piece of entertainment slowly shit the bed after an amazing 4 years of groundwork, then be treated to a rush and incredibly cluncky last season that actively shit on its own characters development was even more painful. Again, because any good conclusion was decade away
What made it hurt more than it should, was just the knowledge that the legitimate book ending was at best still a decade away and felt unreachable. So to see a monumental piece of entertainment slowly shit the bed after an amazing 4 years of groundwork, then be treated to a rush and incredibly cluncky last season that actively shit on its own characters development was even more painful. Again, because any good conclusion was decade away
Definitely. It's incredible looking at the Bran chapters (especially from Clash) to see all the groundwork GRRM laid out for King Bran. I also haven't heard anyone say fAegon is just a distraction and shouldn't have been included since Season 8 ended...
I stopped taking the show seriously after episode 2 of the final season, where I just laughed at the rest, so I got my rage out early in the season and moved on. I've seen worse endings and in the end the overall ride was fine.
I can't bring myself to watch it, recommend it, or care about another installment in the franchise. I had pretty much forgot it even exists.
I overall liked the episode The Bells too, but the setup for Danny going "mad" and the aftermath was so shockingly bad that I have no desire to rewatch anything to do with that show. It had already been getting shitty for some time, but season 8 sealed the deal.
I overall liked the episode The Bells too, but the setup for Danny going "mad" and the aftermath was so shockingly bad that I have no desire to rewatch anything to do with that show. It had already been getting shitty for some time, but season 8 sealed the deal.
It was fascinating how from the first episode HIMYM was clearly building up to a situation where the mother was deceased and the dad clearly still had feelings for Robin.
It was the only plot point that made since with the setup in the pilot, but over nine seasons the audience clearly wasn't ready to accept that ending. I wonder if it was Cristin Miloti was so charming, or just the inertia of wanting a happy ending despite the signs.
I think it damaged the brand, period. I wouldn't be surprised at all if sales for TWoW are significantly lower than ADwD when (if) it even comes out.
In a way, though, it was liberating. I used to care about whether the last 2 books will ever come out. Now, I have completely lost any interest in the IP. They can do whatever they want with it, or forget about it completely, it doesn't matter to me at all. So, thanks, D&D, I guess?