I'm playing Mighty Bomb Jack for the first time and nothing is explained at all. Old games were often made with the understanding that you'd read the manual, so it's incredibly frustrating you have to look up the bare basics of the mechanics.
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It's Asinine That NES Nintendo Switch Online Doesn't Include Manuals
- Thread starter Regiruler
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Yep, built in manuals were a strange thing they removed on the Switch that were present during the Wii U / 3DS era.
I also miss them on indies too.
I also miss them on indies too.
It's dumb but being unable to rebind controls or disable the overlay are much larger issues. At least you can use google to solve the lack of instruction manuals, there's nothing you can do to solve having to play Super Mario Bros. with backwards controls (compared to SNES which has the same button layout).
I would just like to be able to remap the buttons on the pro controller. That's all. Granted i'ts weird that Nintendo didn't offer the Manuals, since they did scan the original ones for the games that were on the Nes and Snes mini.
This is also a big frustration I have with the recent Genesis/MD collection Sega's put out. You do get a single sheet of paper's worth of instructions, but it's usually much lower in content than the old original manuals were and sometimes lacks essential information.
I dunno, I still looked those things up on my phone even when they did include manuals. That's the easier way to do it, IMO.
Agreed. NES game manuals for many games are a requirement. It wasn't until the N64 era that manuals started to become required reading and by the GC/PS2 era we just kept them out of inertia.
NES Open Golf is just nonintuitive enough to be really frustrating without looking at the manual.
They could have put a lot more love into it, specially since this is a product that panders to the nostalgic and the connoisseur, but Nintendo is happy with the bare minimum.
Nintendo's handling of their classic games on Switch has been straight-up atrocious. Look at Startropics, which can't even be beaten without a manual which can't be viewed.
We're over two years into the Switch's lifespan and we can't play Super Metroid on it? Are you serious? This is Nintendo's most successful console since the Wii, but unlike the Wii has passionate consumers who want to explore the ecosystem. Yet you can't play Mario 64, Mario World or a Link to the Past, LET ALONE a Gamecube game.
I love my Switch, but I also think people are a little too quick to give it passes. The lack of access to Nintendo's first party back catalog is baffling.
We're over two years into the Switch's lifespan and we can't play Super Metroid on it? Are you serious? This is Nintendo's most successful console since the Wii, but unlike the Wii has passionate consumers who want to explore the ecosystem. Yet you can't play Mario 64, Mario World or a Link to the Past, LET ALONE a Gamecube game.
I love my Switch, but I also think people are a little too quick to give it passes. The lack of access to Nintendo's first party back catalog is baffling.
Mighty Bomb Jack isn't there, unfortunately, but the manuals from the NES classic are still available on Nintendo's site. I usually check there first, and I agree they should be in the app.
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/
https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/
Pretty sure the Wii U versions just took you to the online PDFs. Not sure why they didn't just do this again
Then it would match my experience of playing the rental copy I played as a kid. A Xeroxed manual and no letter included! The only reason I could play beyond that point was because someone else that rented it before had a save file after that point.
This is probably Nintendo's internal stance. If you are paying for Nintendo Switch Online, you probably know how to google something. There should be a line in there somewhere that just says "confused or lost? Check Gamefaqs."
The Switch definitely has a browser that it uses for in-app stuff. It's just not accessible as a separate app.
I was wondering about this just yesterday. I really hope that Sega's Mini Mega Drive thingy has at least online PDFs for the manuals you can download, because you could do that at least with the NES and SNES classics.
Came here to say this, as I'm experiencing the same thing.
Really, any collection of retro games released today should have -- at minimum -- online-viewable manuals for each game. Those games were absolutely reliant on having that info on-hand, it's an essential inclusion.
Manuals used to be part of the experience. They had art, story, secrets, and more. You were meant to have it open and nearby. It was a fun tactile addition to the experience.
Not to mention the typical inclusion of a "notes" section where you could jot down helpful hints or passwords!
Meanwhile Earthbound on Wii U had the entire guidebook scanned since it came with the game and was needed incase you got stuck.
Nintendo going backwards.
Nintendo going backwards.
I'm 37, so I'm aware. But for a digital game on my Switch, I'd just rather look that stuff up than look at some in-game version. Especially since my phone lets me keep it open, whereas an in-game manual would not.
It's almost as if the entire Switch Online NES service is a lazy cash grab and they don't give two shits about it
I can't believe how bad Nintendo has been with their legacy library on the Switch overall. Its embarrassing really.
The terrible NES on Switch experience is such a stark contrast to my pleasant experience with the Sega Ages version of Phantasy Star. It's shocking to me that Sega and Camcom have a far superior legacy software experience on the Switch. It's baffling.
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Wii U and 3DS versions had them stored as part of the install itself IIRC. You could access them offline.
Nintendo, who is offering a service you have to pay for, can't even offer something as basic as a manual for their games and here you are making excuses for them. Do you really want to do this?
It's only $20 \s
But nah I don't care about this to make further comment
Or just use X and A.
It's a better layout than Y and B anyway because then your thumb doesn't keep bumping into the right analog stick.
I was playing my NES classic yesterday and went to the "manual" section in the top bar and it just showed a URL
Just as lazy as their Switch Online experience.
Just as lazy as their Switch Online experience.
I was wondering how they were going to handle this with it coming out & it seems the answer was Nintendo just ignored it...
Google on a phone will work better and faster than any built in option.
What manual would you like? I'll link it for you.
I'm guessing their stats showed extremely low usage of the Manuals on NES Mini.
Phantasy Star is an $8 deluxe standalone purchase, not part of a freebie with subscription 40 games and growing package.
And Capcom's stuff is extremely poorly emulated and they actively fucked their audience over with half-physical collections.
What manual would you like? I'll link it for you.
I'm guessing their stats showed extremely low usage of the Manuals on NES Mini.
The games are literally online enabled.
Of all the nonsense...
Phantasy Star is an $8 deluxe standalone purchase, not part of a freebie with subscription 40 games and growing package.
And Capcom's stuff is extremely poorly emulated and they actively fucked their audience over with half-physical collections.
This however is a legit complaint to me.
Its really odd how Nintendo treats their legacy software. They seem to be really proud of Super Mario Bros. They fold it into Odyssey, they reference it a lot.
But
If you look at NSO, SMB is just a ROM amongst a sea of ROMs. No manual. Barely any context.
I look at special edition Bali Rays with all their fractures and extras and documentaries and commentaries and attempts to contextualise the work and think ... why is NSO so disrespectful.
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If you look at NSO, SMB is just a ROM amongst a sea of ROMs. No manual. Barely any context.
I look at special edition Bali Rays with all their fractures and extras and documentaries and commentaries and attempts to contextualise the work and think ... why is NSO so disrespectful.
Actually it would be great if they mapped a button to 'bring up manual' that saved your page. It could be done, easily. But I get where you're coming from. I have a collection of PDF manuals and I'll use my phone sometimes to have one open.