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It's about to be 2020, how has camping in FPS not been addressed?
- Thread starter El_Chino
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Dude, they're on the same map you are. Unless they're like clipping into geometry, shooting you from out of bounds. That should definitely be addressed. If campers are consistently in your "blind spot" it might be larger than a spot.
Campers are inherently predictable. What happens more often than not is people keep charging at campers the same way over and over, so it doesn't change and the camper gets his kills. Most games have tools that can be used to counter them, but people get stubborn in the setups they like and if their own setup isn't working for them they just get frustrated.
If you want to use MW as an example, there's so many tools at your disposal to counter campers dependent on where they are. Whether it's using smoke to cover from a sniper, explosives to flush people out, or flank with team mates.
There's generally ways to punish them, but people's stubbornness to change how they attack campers is the bigger problem in my view, and makes them see the game as the problem.
If you want to use MW as an example, there's so many tools at your disposal to counter campers dependent on where they are. Whether it's using smoke to cover from a sniper, explosives to flush people out, or flank with team mates.
There's generally ways to punish them, but people's stubbornness to change how they attack campers is the bigger problem in my view, and makes them see the game as the problem.
Multiple COD maps with four ways into each room addressed this exact issue, and it made for shitty maps.
I never really understanded the crying about camping. Except if its something like enemy spawn camping ala BF2. Besides like.. what can you really do about it? Have some weird as DoT if you stay still? Yeah I dont understabd the crying.
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Lame play.
And campers aren't a problem. Just remember people are creatures of habit and go nuts.
What about it? Spawn killing is just not possible in Siege because there are no direct line of sight from building to spawn (the one map that had one, i.e. Kanal got changed even before the rewoek). Peeking a spawn exit is possible but it's a legit defense strategy and the reason it's legitimate is because it can be avoided as well as countered by attackers. There are only so many places someone can spawn peek from for a given exit and it's possible for even one man to watch it and counter it. It doesn't happen often but every time I do die to a spawn peek all I do is get mad at myself for not checking before running.
I'm sorry you can't check your corners and think you should know the position of enemies at all times. Don't play Rainbow Six Siege.
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Keep attacking my skill without knowing me.
I stopped playing Siege, not because of camping but because of the common team killing in that game.
Why should you be entitled to your strategy of run and gun while they can't use theirs of holding down an area?
Camping is only bad in CoD because of bad map design and low ttk, but even then, camping is super low efficiency.
If you're complaining about camping, your skill level probably isn't as high as you think it is.
If you're complaining about camping, your skill level probably isn't as high as you think it is.
Sounds like OP got killed by a camper.
I don't have a problem with camping though. It might be lame in something like Call of Duty, but if I have a good spot in a more tactical game like Squad or Red Orchestra / Rising Storm, you bet your ass I'm gonna camp there and rack up kills.
I don't have a problem with camping though. It might be lame in something like Call of Duty, but if I have a good spot in a more tactical game like Squad or Red Orchestra / Rising Storm, you bet your ass I'm gonna camp there and rack up kills.
I don't have to know you to know that if you're dying to camping so much that you think it's an exploit then something is wrong with your play style.
You just keep spamming the same move over and over, that's cheap as fuck!
I REFUSE to learn how to counter it!
LOL, even for camping you have to know the game and being kinda of good with it, either sniping, hiding etc. There is no such thing as 100% safe camping. I don't know exactly what you mean with the "blind spot" comment.
Camping isn't really an issue. If you get killed by a sniper holding down a lane then go around it next time and kill the sniper. Learn the map, don't step out in the open. If some dude wants to sit in and corner and shotgun people as they run through doors then throw a grenade in there. I really fail to see the issue.
It may not be a fun play style, especially if it's a long range map and everyone is just edge peeking with snipers, but it's not cheap.
It may not be a fun play style, especially if it's a long range map and everyone is just edge peeking with snipers, but it's not cheap.
OP, did you make this thread in reaction to any game in particular?
Cuz, like, Modern Warfare has a camping problem, and BFV was in a place not too long ago where camping with an MG and becoming one with the rubble was a genuine problem in many maps/modes...
...but that's just the pendulum swinging back from years of meat-grinder design in both franchises. A lot of major shooter franchises dealt with camping in ways that eventually led to those series feeling more and more rote to a non-insignificant segment of their playerbases.
Cuz, like, Modern Warfare has a camping problem, and BFV was in a place not too long ago where camping with an MG and becoming one with the rubble was a genuine problem in many maps/modes...
...but that's just the pendulum swinging back from years of meat-grinder design in both franchises. A lot of major shooter franchises dealt with camping in ways that eventually led to those series feeling more and more rote to a non-insignificant segment of their playerbases.
I personally dont see the fun in running around the map. I like to post up and have a clear vision on where people are coming from. I never understood what people wanted from the "stop camping" cry. All your doing by running around is flipping the spawns and creating an inconsistent flow. I heard this over and over during my Halo 2 days, when Halo is all about map and weapon control. Sitting in one spot and monitoring one or two points is what war games like CoD should be about imo. Games like Overwatch solved this by forcing objectives and building maps around them. The games you want to have timers for sitting too long are just games that are not built for you.
I really gotta reinstall Red Orchestra 2. That game was so fucking good.
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I'm just going to quote this regarding Modern Warfare and move on from this thread.
This ... I know many don't like campers and feel something needs to be done about them...but how you deal with them is you dispatch them in game. Once you determine someone is "camping" you have to deal with it...just like in real life if a platoon came upon a sniper they would have to deal with him/her or suffer the consequences.
Running around in Halo was a great way to take advantage of the spawning system to spawn kill or force bad spawns. Once you got the hang of it, it became second nature and was part of the fun.. at least if you were the one taking advantage of it.
and then rage quitting when he gets killed before his scoretreak.
I hate camping but you shouldn't be punished for doing it because yes, in the end of the day it's a valid way to play the game.