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itd be neat if Yoko Taro did a meta bit on framerate

Cryptosporidium

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Imagine its the next Nier game. Youre an android and at some part of the game youre severely injured. The game starts dipping slowly from 60fps down to 40 down to 23 to 10, to 5.. And then youur character comments on how life looks like a slideshow


What are some random gameplay ideas you think would be cool to see
 

Kalmakov

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I thought about a fighting game character whos gimmick is to cause lag spikes to mess up inputs.
 
Jarmel

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no

nononononono

I would be ready to strangle someone after 5 seconds of that.
 
PMS341

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I always liked the idea of a game physically shutting down due to kicking a boss's ass so hard while a billion effects just kills it.
 
Siggy-P

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That's pretty inventive OP but for the sake of playability maybe as a one off scripted moment. Saints Row did something similar in the virtual world against Matt Miller in 3 were it starts glitching during the boss fight
 
Aexact

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I don't think the cute joke would be worth the confusion and suffering there.
 

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Syril said:
That's actually something that Valentine can do in Skullgirls. One of her poison effects gives the opponent input lag.
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That's cool! I haven't messed around in SG enough to figure out what characters can do, I need to go back to that game.

Although for what I was thinking, I was thinking a character that sets an invisible timer and when that timer completes, the match itself would lag spike.
 

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what about a part where a digital virus gets set loose and the game just starts requiring downloads that fill your hard drive with hundreds of gigabytes of bloat over time unless you figure out how to remove it
 
Capra

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In Metroid Prime 2 there was an enemy that could "hack" your suit and transmit a virus that made everything run at like 5fps, forcing you to reboot your visor to purge it.
 
Flame Lord

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I remember there was an interview where he joked about something like that; maybe you'll get your wish someday.
 
ILikeFeet

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that'd be interesting if the rest of the game didn't suffer from frame rate issues...

which would be a pipe dream. reminds me of the Deadpool game making a joke about shitty sewer levels. then proceeded to be a shitty sewer level without irony
 
Gevurztraminer

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Some would say that Yoko Taro already did this in some of his games. But yes, I would enjoy a bit like that.
 
Cian

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Flame Lord said:
I remember there was an interview where he joked about something like that; maybe you'll get your wish someday.
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Indeed he did! In a 2015 interview with Chris Kohler.

With a game as rule-breaking as Nier, ideas might come at any moment. When Saito mentions that Platinum Games wants the new title to run at 60 frames per second, Yoko picks up his phone and starts typing out a note.

"It would be great to have the game function at 60 frames per second, but that's not an absolute must," Yoko says a minute later. "But through that conversation we were having a moment ago, I thought it might be interesting to have a boss battle where a certain attack he does might drop the framerate ridiculously low."

Or maybe, he said, the boss would cause the game's display resolution to drop unexpectedly. Yoko noted this on his phone, too.
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Nobleman Swerve

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Wouldn't be a true Yoko Taro game if there wasn't some sort of mechanic or set piece specifically designed to frustrate the player.
 
JahIthBer

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i have thought for a while that some sort of enemy attack to lower your framerate could be as funny as it would be interesting, Nier's raid in FFXIV should have a boss do exactly that.
 
Ferrio

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It should randomly crash throughout the game, and you have to replay bits but new story is added. The kicker is there's real crashes too, so you don't' know which is which.
 
Crossing Eden

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Aexact said:
I don't think the cute joke would be worth the confusion and suffering there.
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Yoko Taro:
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Klyka

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Cryptosporidium said:
Imagine its the next Nier game. Youre an android and at some part of the game youre severely injured. The game starts dipping slowly from 60fps down to 40 down to 23 to 10, to 5.. And then youur character comments on how life looks like a slideshow


What are some random gameplay ideas you think would be cool to see
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Problem is that half the gaming community couldn't see the framerate change
 
Lobster Roll

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Hey, wouldn't it be neat if the game you're playing slowly went from 4K to 1440p, to 1080p, to 720p, to 240p? Or if your settings went from Ultra, to High, to Medium, to Low, to Minimum?

Frame rate is just as important to image quality as resolution and level of graphics detail. Don't think it would be fun at all to intentionally lower any of those for an in-game gimmick.
 

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Lobster Roll said:
Hey, wouldn't it be neat if the game you're playing slowly went from 4K to 1440p, to 1080p, to 720p, to 240p? Or if your settings went from Ultra, to High, to Medium, to Low, to Minimum?

Frame rate is just as important to image quality as resolution and level of graphics detail. Don't think it would be fun at all to intentionally lower any of those for an in-game gimmick.
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Fidelity demakes already exist, and are surprising popular. Dragging FPS down the gutter has the least cause to be charming.
Edit: I mean, what you described is Kane and Lynch 2.
 
HardRojo

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Arkham Asylum already did one of the examples of this in the third Scarecrow nightmare.
 
J75

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Sounds just like something weird and quirky that he'll do. No thanks though.
 
klastical

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PMS341 said:
I always liked the idea of a game physically shutting down due to kicking a boss's ass so hard while a billion effects just kills it.
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you should play undertale on pc! That's all I'm going to say. Just play undertale.
 
Ubik

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Using up your stamina bar causes a lower frame rate would be a neat temporary punishment item in a rogue like or something.
 
Mechaplum

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We are already getting hate threads on the small part where you were debilitated in Automata so imagine what this could do to Era.

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Actually, let's do it.
 
Pop-O-Matic

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It's a terrible idea and a painfully on-the-nose "meta" bit, so yeah, it'd be perfect for a Yoko Taro game.
 
Tedmilk

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I have an idea for a platformer/metroidvania game that starts off with 4-color gameboy graphics at the original gameboy's resolution. As you progress through the game, each upgrade your character gets will upgrade the graphics (though the framerate stays at 60). One upgrade will dissolve the black bars at the sides of the screen and give you widescreen; one will increase the color palette, and so forth.

Some of these upgrades enable you to see things in previous levels that you couldn't before, encouraging replayability. Not only can you find even more upgrades in previous levels, but the player will also want to experience these levels with the new graphics they have obtained since.
 
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