Just because Nintendo do it, it is still doesn't change the fact it limits the consumer's ability to resell games.
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It seems like from now on Xbox System Bundles will no longer include a game code. Replaced with Digital Direct.
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This is probably the first step in Microsoft doing what Sony does in no longer allowing third parties to sell game codes. Just Xbox currency and Game Pass/XBL subs.
When I get gifted something I don't want, I sell it, like an adult.
So why not just have it pre-installed on the system then? I could see the appeal of it if that was the case but it seems like it's simply there to prevent reselling which is kinda lame.
Then again I guess AC Unity codes have been available forever for like $2 so I can kinda see why they're making the change.
Then again I guess AC Unity codes have been available forever for like $2 so I can kinda see why they're making the change.
Maybe someone buys a limited edition console because it looks nice or maybe they got the console at a good price.
WiiU and 3DS bundled games were tied to the hardware itself. Glad they moved away from that shit.
Xbox have had a pretty good streak for a few years, of largely pro-consumer moves and initiatives; this isn't one of them. Though I think Nintendo actually pioneered this particular "innovation".
Not a huge deal in the grand scheme, but certainly curtails some amount of choice. I wonder if doing this lets Microsoft get a better deal on bundle software contracts or something, since they can assure publishers their bundle entitlements won't be resold?
I mean, not choosing to buy a product or bundle that doesn't give you the freedom or features you want, is also capitalism.
The code is second-hand the minute you own it, because it's no longer a first-party sale. If the code was used, it wouldn't be a valid code any more.
Not a huge deal in the grand scheme, but certainly curtails some amount of choice. I wonder if doing this lets Microsoft get a better deal on bundle software contracts or something, since they can assure publishers their bundle entitlements won't be resold?
I mean, not choosing to buy a product or bundle that doesn't give you the freedom or features you want, is also capitalism.
The code is second-hand the minute you own it, because it's no longer a first-party sale. If the code was used, it wouldn't be a valid code any more.
It's about us taking a hit. We were able to pas the code along to a friend or sell it to make back some money. It was a great option for us, less so for the companies. This is only a win for them.
When someone offers me a drink in a bar when I just bought one, I always make sure to get the money off them anyway.
I shouldn't lose out because I already bought a drink right? It's only fair.
MS is not giving gifts lol, people are BUYING those games with the console.
initially i thought this might be bad but, there really doesnt seem to be any problems with this unless for some reason like, you get a console bundle during christmas then get the same game gifted to you, but then again you can just sell the standalone game back or whatever lol
seems like the only issue with this is technicalities or like really niche problems, so seems fine
seems like the only issue with this is technicalities or like really niche problems, so seems fine
That's not even remotely the same thing lmao
These responses are crazy
The same Sony that decided retailers could no longer sell codes?
You take the second drink and drink it. You can't do anything with a game you already own lol.
The bundles still come with physical games or codes, you can sell those.
People are actually defending this? How much of a corporate bootlicker are you? It's especially huge boon here in third world countries since it brings the cost of the whole thing down plus someone can get a cheaper deal on the game that they want.
Pretty sure Sony have physical games in their bundle, which is a nice plus since those sells more likely and pricier here.
So don't buy a game you already own?
"But this bundle was cheaper!"
"Oh cool, so you got a good deal then?"
"Well yeah, I guess that's true. B-but I still lost out on something! And that's not fair!"
I don't get it man...
Then you won't be able to download anything from the store anyway, let alone the one in the bundle.
The bundle is even cheaper if you sell the bundled game that you don't want. Come on dude it's not difficult 😂
So if your friend offered you a drink when you just bought one, you'd accept it anyway?
That's weird bro...
Baffled but not surprised at some of the reactions here. Some of you really bend over backwards to defend some companies
If people buy something, they have the right of doing whatever they want with it.
If they own the game or not is not MS business.
This is pretty terrible and anti-consumer. It seems a bit like the change Humble Bundle tried to bring in a few years ago that was so unpopular they had to row back to offering codes again.
Like, I totally get why people would rather they didn't do this, and I totally get why it's anti-consumer. But I also just think it's not a big deal at all, and would rarely even be a thing to be concerned about.
How often are you going to be getting a bundled copy of a game that you already own? And even if that were the case, the game is probably bundled for a reason ie: super cheap at this point, you're really going to piss and moan because you couldn't flog it online for 20 bucks?
Who cares man, I dunno.
How often are you going to be getting a bundled copy of a game that you already own? And even if that were the case, the game is probably bundled for a reason ie: super cheap at this point, you're really going to piss and moan because you couldn't flog it online for 20 bucks?
Who cares man, I dunno.
You only have to look at something like Assassin's Creed Unity, that game on xbox was devalued almost from the get go and is still available for pocket change. It's pretty terrible for people to be trying to sell this idea as being positive for the consumer.
"Suck it up" is just a terribly disappointing statement to make to a fellow consumer. :(
That's possibly the worst take in this thread. Abuse of a system suggests going out of your way to bend rules and game the companies involved. Selling on codes for games that you're not interested in is hardly that. Code reselling sites dealing with masses of them, sure, but if this solution is aimed at that situation it's a sledgehammer to crack a nut scenario (and the consumer's nuts taking the pounding).
OK, no, that's the worst take in this thread.
A bundled game is not a gift. It never has been. It's a value-add to entice a purchase. Being able to sell on physical and digital bundeld software (unclaimed, uninstalled, unused) to actually gain that benefit of value for those that do not want the specific software, is not and will never be a bad thing for consumers. In the grand scheme it's hardly even bad for platformholders and the game's publishers, because precisely 1 person has a new console, 1 person has a new game.
"Suck it up" is just a terribly disappointing statement to make to a fellow consumer. :(
I dunno...
...to me that suggests it'll just download in the usual way at setup.xbox said:
Account dealing is much more likely to be seen as shady stuff and against ToS. Far fewer people are going to be willing to purchase an account with a game tied to it than a game itself. With a code that gets applied to your account and it's there for good. If you bought an account, the seller still has access until you amend the login details, but potentially has the ability to reset those credentials and sell the same thing multiple times to multiple people and remove your access.
ngl this is kinda lame, now i gotta make sure i dont get the systems bundled with games i dont want lol
Out of curiosity, if you bought the digital version of a game, then bought a new console that includes the same title...what would happen then. Apologies if this was covered already.
You must be online when you set up an Xbox One for the first time. Without an internet connection, you can't finish setup.
In case of CP, it gets refunded if you already own it.
This sounds very much like the silent key activation stuff that EA & Ubisoft use when selling PC games on third party sites/launchers. The plan is obviously to eliminate keys (and the digital grey market) altogether. I think its pretty lousy but as long as Valve never resort to or allow this bullshit, I don't particularly care.
Companies shouldn't expect me to respect their TOS when they can't even follow the law. I SHOULD be able to transfer my software licenses to anyone I want, but none of the console manufacturers gives me that option.
It's not so much the end person as in the one making the transactions. It will be the loss of the code to the grey market.
Usually you see codes for games that are bundled with consoles go extremely cheap on places like CDKeys. Just have a look at some of their AC code prices.
I imagine there has been pressure placed on platform from the pubs for this.
It's pro-consumer to the majority of consumers;
More people will want to play the bundle they bought, compared to people trying to flip the code.
The playing people won't need to enter any codes anymore, so that saves a lot of time for them.
More people will want to play the bundle they bought, compared to people trying to flip the code.
The playing people won't need to enter any codes anymore, so that saves a lot of time for them.
"Is this a 0 or a O?"
But yeah, 30 seconds times 1 million consoles is almost a whole year spent by consumers entering the codes. And that is a best case scenario. Maybe the retailer opened the box, copied the code and sold it on an illegal cd key market?
Microsoft does a lot of anti-consumer stuff, but this ain't it chief