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It is absolutely imperative that 343 show fans the multiplayer part of Halo Infinite. Keeping it hidden away from the world will damage it long term.
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You do realize you are asking them to make the same mistake they made with the campaign
Considering the state and love 343 has given Halo 5 MP, I am inclined to disagree that 343 NEED to show it now, especially with the delay. I hope the delay might lead them to consider a beta however with the extra time they have bought themselves.
Is this like the "Sony needs to show the PS5 now or risk doing damage to its long term success!" arguments we saw months ago? They'll show it when it's ready and anyone who is interested will play it.
Imagine some guy on a forum telling a multi bilion dollar company when to show off their game. Amazing.
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The mistake they made with the campaign was not showing it off sooner. I remember reading through the various Halo and Microsoft Game Studios threads all year - we were all wondering where the hell this game was and why it hadn't been shown off yet. If they had shown this game off at a prior E3, or earlier this year, they would have had that much more time to respond and fix what needed to be fixed - and maybe if they had done so the game would still be coming out in November. But they genuinely didn't know. They waited until a few months before release and were obviously quite surprised by the negative response.
I just don't want the same thing to happen with the multiplayer. I don't want them to wait and show off the multiplayer a few months before the game releases only to have the community respond negatively to some of the decisions they've made. I want it to be the best it can be, and if they detail their intentions now, they can have plenty of time to respond and make corrections to any negative feedback.
If anything, last months reveal shows that presenting a game in a bad state can do more harm than no presentation at all. Show it when it's ready, it's ok
I think you are mistaken if you think they only went like "oh shit guess this isn't ready" after showing gameplay of it. At most that was the weight the devs needed to get more time, not the sole deciding factor. They very likely knew before showing it what state it was in. Just that marketing doesnt always align with developers insight.
I just don't think 343 is cut out for this anymore, they need major restructuring to be put on the right track, and the workflow they've got seems to be pretty poor, and if rumors of how it is to work at 343 are to be taken with any grain of salt. It really seems like a shitty place to work at.
I wish they could be trusted, but we're 3 games in and it's still difficult to consider buying Infinite this far in. Hopefully they can prove themselves but they seriously need to pick up the slack. This was supposed to be the launch title for the Series X. Extremely wary of the state it could release in.
I wish they could be trusted, but we're 3 games in and it's still difficult to consider buying Infinite this far in. Hopefully they can prove themselves but they seriously need to pick up the slack. This was supposed to be the launch title for the Series X. Extremely wary of the state it could release in.
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They have been pretty open on halo way point and explained their struggles with the beta and Covid. They can't rush a statement on multiplayer right now and risk further damage.
Halo 5's multiplayer was the best part of Halo 5 the whole time it was released yes.
But it was also pretty garbage for the first few months... But it was competing against the Halo 5 story that didn't make any sense to the promotional material, so it looked better. I'd rather play 4's multiplayer than Halo 5 launch Multiplayer.
But it was also pretty garbage for the first few months... But it was competing against the Halo 5 story that didn't make any sense to the promotional material, so it looked better. I'd rather play 4's multiplayer than Halo 5 launch Multiplayer.
I don't think HALO Infinite is going to bring in any new fans to the series, this is aimed at the established, hardcore fanbase and those that perhaps fell away after the 4th or 5th instalment.
If you have a core fanbase like HALO does I don't think that delaying the Infinite multiplayer really makes that much difference. The HALO faithful want it and are prepared to wait.
If you have a core fanbase like HALO does I don't think that delaying the Infinite multiplayer really makes that much difference. The HALO faithful want it and are prepared to wait.
"It is absolutely imperative that 343 show fans actual gameplay of Halo Infinite. Keeping it hidden away from the world will damage it long term."
I feel like this would have been the thread title a month ago when we were still living in BC (Before Craig).
I feel like this would have been the thread title a month ago when we were still living in BC (Before Craig).
The mp is going F2P and will no doubt have loads of cool new sandbox modes similar to BRs.
Of course it's going to try and attract new fans. But it can also wait. Kids these days don't care so much about next gen etc. It's not such a big deal these days.
There's no use for that right now, they can't afford another bad showing. It's better to take some time and show it again when they have something that can enthusiasm people.
It can try.
I just think HALO is now too established to suddenly have some second life that attracts a whole new sway of fans.
We shall see.
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Not even close. If it's good upon release...they'll be just fine.
I have much love for Halo. But 343 has trashed this franchise in many many ways. I can't support them or the product. It's crap. Let's not pretend it isn't.
its time for Xbox to take a long hard look at this studio and to make proper moves
its time for Xbox to take a long hard look at this studio and to make proper moves
Then tell people something. I do think the fans deserve it.
This is some pretty flowery language to describe the lack of multiplayer footage of a delayed game. We'll get info prior to its actual launch. Just chill.
They just delayed the game.... Halo 5's multiplayer wast great, soI don't think we have anything to worry about.
Halo 4 and 5's multiplayer sucked at launch and got better overtime.
It's not wrong for people to want it to start good.
They did tell people something. Yesterday. The game isn't ready.
At this point in time, immediately after delaying the game... I don't consider this a problem at all. They can wait until it's more ready to show. Look what happened when they showed off campaign before it was ready. Their only imperative right now is to make the game good. They don't need to show anything.
But as we approach actual release, sure. At that point they should start making with the goods, having a demo, etc.
That could still be a ways off, though.
But as we approach actual release, sure. At that point they should start making with the goods, having a demo, etc.
That could still be a ways off, though.
Honestly given how prolific the rumors were about Infinite launching without MP, and the names behind those rumors being fairly respected, I wouldn't be surprised if "Launch without MP" was on the table until very recently, and the reason the game got delayed into 2021 is specifically because of the Multiplayer, and not the reaction to the game's art direction.
The game is going to be fine.
A beta of sorts debuting shortly after launch will do wonders for hype.
A beta of sorts debuting shortly after launch will do wonders for hype.
Show it when its ready.
The games already delayed until who knows when.
Thought the same thing when I saw that wall of text
The games already delayed until who knows when.
Thought the same thing when I saw that wall of text
The game is probably years from finished. If they truely want to have a technichal showcase title it will take another 2-3 years. It's obvious that they are hiding some truely unpleasant development problems.
MP beta at or near the Series X launch could provide valuable feedback and potentially restore confidence in the game.
If it was going to launch in November until the call was just recently made, it is not 2-3 for dev to be completed. Not saying there weren't dev troubles but nah on it taking another 2-3 years
I think you did it. When I read the thread title I was like "no way this will push 343 to reveal the Halo Infinite MP way ahead of schedule amid a delay!"...but then I read your post, and now I'm confident we'll see it within the next 72 hours. Mark my words!
(They'll show it when its ready and it won't do any damage to the game or its sales)
(They'll show it when its ready and it won't do any damage to the game or its sales)
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I think that's a very smart move.
It would also energize the Series X launch.